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« Reply #180 on: November 17, 2014, 08:09:56 pm »

Ten Illegal Police Actions to Watch for in Ferguson

When the Michael Brown verdict is announced, people can expect the police to take at least ten different illegal actions to prevent people from exercising their constitutional rights. The Ferguson police have been on TV more than others so people can see how awful they have been acting. But their illegal police tactics are unfortunately quite commonly used by other law enforcement in big protests across the US.

The First Amendment to the US Constitution promises the government will not abridge freedom of speech or to prevent the right of the people to peaceably assemble or to petition to the government for the redress of grievances.

Here is what they are going to do, watch for each of these illegal actions when the crowds start to grow:



One. Try to stop people from protesting. The police all say they know they have to let people protest. So they usually will allow protests for a while. Then the police will get tired and impatient and try to stop people from continuing to protest. The government will say people can only protest until a certain time, or on a certain street, or only if they keep moving, or not there, not here, not now, no longer. Such police action is not authorized by the US Constitution. People have a right to protest, the government should leave them alone.

Two. Provocateurs. Police have likely already planted dozens of officers, black and white, male and female, inside the various protests groups. These officers will illegally spy on peaceful protesters and often take illegal actions themselves and encourage other people to take illegal action. They will even be arrested with others but magically not end up in jail. Others inside the groups will be paid to inform on the group to the government. Comically, when undercover police are uncovered they often claim they have a constitutional right to be there and try to use the constitution they are violating as a shield!

Three. Snatch Squads. Police will decide who they do not like or who they think are leaders. Then they will use small heavily armed groups to knife into peaceful crowds and grab people, pull them out and arrest them.

Four. False Arrests. The police will arrest whoever they choose whenever they choose and will make up stories to justify the arrests. If people are breaking glass or hurting others, those arrests are legal. However, the police will arrest first and sort out who they arrested later. Police in Ferguson have already wrongfully arrested legal observers, a law professor, and church leaders.

Five. Intimidation. As they have shown many times in Ferguson and all over the country, once the protests heat up, police will show up in full riot gear, dressed like ninja turtles (big flashy guns, plastic shields, big batons, shin guards, gas masks, flex cuffs) and act like they are military warriors protecting people from ISIS invasion.

Six. Kettling or Encircling. The police will surround a group and pen them in and not let them move. They will either arrest all or force them to leave in one direction. This, as the police know fully well, always sweeps up innocent bystanders as well as protestors. NYPD did this with hundreds on Brooklyn Bridge and at many other protests. Sometimes they deploy orange plastic nets or snow fencing, sometimes just lots of police.

Seven. Raids on supportive churches, organizations or homes. Often the police make illegal pre-emptive raids on places where volunteers are sleeping, cooking or parking their cars. They lie to locals and accuse the protesters of links to violent organizations.

Eight. Pain Noise Trucks. Police will also use LRAD noise trucks (Long Range Acoustic Device). First used in Iraq now used against peaceful protesters in the US. The trucks blast bursts of sound powerful enough to cause pain. Never approved by any court, this intentional infliction of pain is another sign of the militarization of the police. Police also use MRAPs Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicles - heavily armored trucks which look like tanks but roll on wheels not treads. This is part of the intimidation.

Nine. Arrest reporters. When the police are feeling the heat of public view, they will force journalists away from the protesters. Those who insist on engaging in constitutionally protected activity and returning to the scene will be arrested.

Ten. Chemical and other weapons. When the police get really desperate and afraid, they will try to disperse the entire crowd with pepper spray, tear gas, and other chemical weapons, rubber or wooden bullets. If this happens the police have just about lost control and are at their most dangerous.

Dozens and dozens of different police forces which will be surrounding the protesters in Ferguson when the Michael Brown verdict is announced. There will be federal FBI agents, Homeland Security, US Marshalls, State Police troopers, County Sheriffs, and local city cops from the dozens of little towns in and around St. Louis. Perhaps this will be the time when the peoples' constitutional rights to protest are actually protected. We can only hope. But in the meantime, look for these common police tactics.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-quigley/ten-illegal-police-action_b_6171964.html






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« Reply #181 on: November 18, 2014, 07:42:09 pm »

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A pregnant woman’s account of being raped by a city police officer and a video of an aggressive Darren Wilson are only heightening the foreboding over the Michael Brown grand jury.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/18/rape-lies-videotape-in-ferguson.html





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« Reply #182 on: November 21, 2014, 08:10:30 pm »

Anonymous claims it has identified members of the Ku Klux Klan at a support group rally for police officer Darren Wilson, who shot and killed a black teen in Ferguson, Missouri. Following the expose, the support group removed the photograph from Facebook.

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« Reply #183 on: November 23, 2014, 06:12:17 pm »

...two clowns claiming to be Black Panthers and discussing pipe bombs with undercover FBI agents?


Federal authorities in Missouri charged two men with lying on forms to purchase guns ahead of the grand jury decision in the police shooting of Michael Brown.
Olajuwon Davis and Brandon Baldwin only faced those charges as of Friday, but sources told ABC News that authorities were looking into whether they tried to acquire ready-made explosives and other weapons ahead of the decision, which is expected soon.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/missouri-charged-lying-forms-buy-guns-ahead-grand/story?id=27096024

According to an anonymous law enforcement source, two men described as reputed members of a militant group called the New Black Panther Party, were arrested in the St. Louis area in an FBI sting operation.
As initially reported by CBS News, the men were suspected of acquiring explosives for pipe bombs that they planned to set off during protests in Ferguson, according to the leak.

http://m.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/article_bc0d3aea-f21d-5e29-947b-5c777ec2d70d.html



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« Reply #184 on: November 25, 2014, 08:02:58 pm »

Aug. 9 until Nov. 14, anyone with knowledge of the case was saying 

Wilson did not know Brown was a suspect in a strong-arm robbery that happened moments before the shooting, according to Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson. Wilson stopped Brown and his friend for walking in the middle of the street, Jackson said.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/15/myths-and-facts-on-ferguson-shooting/19085451/

...until a recording appears out of thin air that completely re-writes the timeframe of the killing.
In more than 3 months time, did no one think to look at the radio tapes, or did it just take that long to engineer a new one?



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« Reply #185 on: November 25, 2014, 08:15:25 pm »

Aug. 9 until Nov. 14, anyone with knowledge of the case was saying 

Wilson did not know Brown was a suspect in a strong-arm robbery that happened moments before the shooting, according to Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson. Wilson stopped Brown and his friend for walking in the middle of the street, Jackson said.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/15/myths-and-facts-on-ferguson-shooting/19085451/

...until a recording appears out of thin air that completely re-writes the timeframe of the killing.
In more than 3 months time, did no one think to look at the radio tapes, or did it just take that long to engineer a new one?

So it appears you believe the only way justice will be done is to execute Wilson.

That is sooooo wrong.

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« Reply #186 on: November 25, 2014, 10:11:53 pm »

Aug. 9 until Nov. 14, anyone with knowledge of the case was saying 

Wilson did not know Brown was a suspect in a strong-arm robbery that happened moments before the shooting, according to Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson. Wilson stopped Brown and his friend for walking in the middle of the street, Jackson said.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/15/myths-and-facts-on-ferguson-shooting/19085451/

...until a recording appears out of thin air that completely re-writes the timeframe of the killing.
In more than 3 months time, did no one think to look at the radio tapes, or did it just take that long to engineer a new one?





I will call the local authorities up there and let them know they were a bit slow on getting the evidence YOU believe you are entitled. Feel better? And put the pipe down. If you have evidence of corruption, give it up. Otherwise, you are part of the problem in this society.
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« Reply #187 on: November 26, 2014, 02:33:58 am »

In all officer involved shootings, all of the recordings are locked down to preserve them as evidence for both sides if it goes to court. Most all police departments have digital recorders for all radio traffic, as well as calls to 911 dispatch, and those recording are hard to alter as they are recorded on a hard drive and backed up on a DVD with time and date stamps that use a GPS signal for time and date info. Altering the encoded info would be somewhere at the NSA level, and not the average person working for a police department. It's not that easy to pull a Nixon anymore.

I actually have first hand experience on these systems, and a very good understanding of how they work and what you can do with them.
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« Reply #188 on: November 26, 2014, 07:26:48 am »

The Vashta Nerada live in the darkness.  They fear the light because it represents their only weakness.

It is believed that historically they are why people are afraid of the dark.

Very fitting Dr. Who reference.

This person seems to enjoy regurgitating conspiratorial information.  Anything that really inspires fear or hatred of those who choose to protect us.  There will always be the Vashta Nerada.  We have a few of them on this forum, or perhaps they are the same, just seeking different shadows to inhabit.
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« Reply #189 on: November 26, 2014, 09:32:49 am »

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26zzcPPjLOI[/youtube]
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« Reply #190 on: November 26, 2014, 10:06:02 am »

The Vashta Nerada live in the darkness.  They fear the light because it represents their only weakness.

It is believed that historically they are why people are afraid of the dark.

Very fitting Dr. Who reference.

This person seems to enjoy regurgitating conspiratorial information.  Anything that really inspires fear or hatred of those who choose to protect us.  There will always be the Vashta Nerada.  We have a few of them on this forum, or perhaps they are the same, just seeking different shadows to inhabit.

Dang,  that  is a solid post.      And I am seriously irritated I didn't pick up the Dr Who reference earlier...
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« Reply #191 on: November 26, 2014, 04:49:23 pm »

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26zzcPPjLOI[/youtube]

The NAACP said this was not an invitation to violence.

http://townhall.com/news/around-the-web/2014/11/26/naacp-president-burn-this-bi-down-not-a-call-for-violence-n1924174

And there is this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOsn4LiyvJE[/youtube]
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« Reply #192 on: November 26, 2014, 05:17:42 pm »


Hmmmm, it's either my tablet and my phone, or the links have been scrubbed, because I get 404 page extinct on both. Will check on my PC at home.
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« Reply #193 on: November 26, 2014, 06:13:11 pm »

Hmmmm, it's either my tablet and my phone, or the links have been scrubbed, because I get 404 page extinct on both. Will check on my PC at home.

Those links were bad. Here is a link to a response to the New York Times publishing the address of Darren Wilson.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2014/11/26/sean-hannity-blasts-nyt-exposing-ferguson-cops-address
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« Reply #194 on: November 26, 2014, 10:31:53 pm »

In more than 3 months time, did no one think to look at the radio tapes, or did it just take that long to engineer a new one?

Why would they need to?  Didnt they know the outcome of the grand jury the minute they knew who the prosecutor was?
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