IRS Selectively Targeting

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but who decides which is correct?  Does it go to a federal court?

I don't know.  I'm just an engineer.

[Ed W]

I'm just an engineer.

I knew there was a good reason not to like you! Number One Daughter seems to attract engineers, something that's a puzzlement to her. I told her to look for young men who are drug dealers, pimps, or pornographers because they enjoy better social standing.

If you've seen that TV ad with the old guy who blurts out whatever is on his mind, I'm rapidly turning into that guy. Daughter rolls her eyes a lot.   

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I knew there was a good reason not to like you!

Surely (no, not Shirley) you can find a better reason to not like me than because I am an engineer.   

[guido911]

So let's see if I understand this right. A couple of Republican congressmen, one with a background in electronics manufacturing and another as a federal prosecutor, believe that a witness waived her fifth amendment rights without ever specifically saying so, and now they can somehow compel testimony from her.  I guess if she refuses they can charge her with contempt of congress, but they'd have to charge the rest of us too.  Maybe we'll get to see the first-ever waterboarding in a congressional witch hunt investigation.  What a proud day for America!

Gowdy is arguing this witness cannot essentially fart and leave the room. This is a frequently contested issue in courts, and as a federal prosecutor would have an exceptional understanding of the line.

I like how your post went from legitimate inquiry into waiver (or at least limited) 5th Amend to, quite logically, waterboarding.

[Ed W]

I like how your post went from legitimate inquiry into waiver (or at least limited) 5th Amend to, quite logically, waterboarding.

Sure, it's hyperbole, but our esteemed congressmen apparently think they can compel testimony from a witness.  What better way than waterboarding?

[Gaspar]

It seems that both Republicans and Democrats are on the same page with Issa.  None of them want to see a special prosecutor appointed, though that looks inevitable at this point since the IRS missed their deadline in complying with congress on the subpoena of their email communications with the White House.

Not sure what the delay tactics are for at this point.  The election is over. 

[heironymouspasparagus]

I knew there was a good reason not to like you! Number One Daughter seems to attract engineers, something that's a puzzlement to her. I told her to look for young men who are drug dealers, pimps, or pornographers because they enjoy better social standing.

If you've seen that TV ad with the old guy who blurts out whatever is on his mind, I'm rapidly turning into that guy. Daughter rolls her eyes a lot.   

Those preferred professions make a lot more money, too!!

The big question - and possibly life changing for the worse - is SHE attracted to them as well as they to her...?

[Ed W]

Those preferred professions make a lot more money, too!!

The big question - and possibly life changing for the worse - is SHE attracted to them as well as they to her...?

[/quoteI'm sure that if I were

Number One Daughter is highly selective, and she has a strong set of values that she does not compromise. A guy like me, for instance, would not make the cut.  And while she's attracted to some men, they have to meet her specifications for character and spiritual values also. 

There are two strong, tough women in this house.  I'm definitely outnumbered and outclassed.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Those preferred professions make a lot more money, too!!

The big question - and possibly life changing for the worse - is SHE attracted to them as well as they to her...?

[/quoteI'm sure that if I were

Number One Daughter is highly selective, and she has a strong set of values that she does not compromise. A guy like me, for instance, would not make the cut.  And while she's attracted to some men, they have to meet her specifications for character and spiritual values also.  

There are two strong, tough women in this house.  I'm definitely outnumbered and outclassed.

I have drowned in that same Sea of Estrogen my entire adult life!

[guido911]

Sure, it's hyperbole, but our esteemed congressmen apparently think they can compel testimony from a witness.  What better way than waterboarding?

An admission that waterboarding is effective. welcome to the club.

[Gaspar]

An admission that waterboarding is effective. welcome to the club.

Waterboarding is cruel, and does not provide any reliable intelligence.  This administration employs superior tactics.

[Ed W]

An admission that waterboarding is effective. welcome to the club.

You're right, of course. Waterboarding is effective in eliciting the answers that will make the waterboarding stop, but that doesn't mean the answers are truthful.  People being tortured will say anything to make it stop. 

[Hoss]

You're right, of course. Waterboarding is effective in eliciting the answers that will make the waterboarding stop, but that doesn't mean the answers are truthful.  People being tortured will say anything to make it stop. 

Now you've done it, Ed.  Logic.

When will this madness stop?!

[Ed W]

Now you've done it, Ed.  Logic.

When will this madness stop?!

Madness?  What madness?  I'm thoroughly sane, not mad.  The voices say so.

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Madness?  What madness?  I'm thoroughly sane, not mad.  The voices say so.

Waterboarding is nothing compared to other tortures.  Have none of you ever watched Brave Heart?  The Medieval English had torture down to an artform. How would you like to be hacked to death with knives and then beheaded as that soldier in the UK?