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Started by sgrizzle, March 13, 2013, 09:13:12 AM

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Conan71

Quote from: Ibanez on March 19, 2013, 10:06:14 AM
As it is now it looks like something Rust-Oleum put up to show how their products stand up to weather.

Nailed it
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Vision 2025

#31
For my friends at Tulsa Now:

PMg Native (a subsidiary of Program Management Group) is the overall Project Manager, we have been working with the Casino for the past six months assembling the team and I can tell you this is a really exciting project...creating a destination resort to draw from much larger demographic than the Tulsa Metro while providing excellent entertainment options for the region.

The renderings you have seen were produced by HKS (Dallas office) and they are the project Architect having been selected from 18 firms/teams invited to submit qualifications.

The Construction Manager is a Joint Venture of Manhattan and Redstone.

And yes the project team fully understands the River and the RED is going to be addressed!

Kirby


Vision 2025 Program Director - know the facts, www.Vision2025.info

Townsend


YoungTulsan

 

Ibanez

Quote from: YoungTulsan on March 19, 2013, 02:34:04 PM
We Dubai now?

Not until some billionaire drops the $ to make it where we can truly ski the Tulsa Mountains!!

Townsend

Hard Rock's new hotel tower opened.  Thunder appears to be stolen.

Townsend

Casino Expansion Could Mean More River Improvements

http://publicradiotulsa.org/post/casino-expansion-could-mean-more-river-improvements

QuoteThe Arkansas River may not look like a tropical paradise right now, but the Muscogee (Creek) Nation plans to change that, at least at its 81st Street River Spirit Casino.

It's planning on adding a new 22-story hotel and a Jimmy Buffett's Margaritaville Casino and Restaurant.

Muscogee (Creek) Principal Chief George Tiger says tribal investment in Arkansas River infrastructure is a definite possibility.

"We're looking at alternatives, options, if you will," he said, "about how we can put water on the river."

The additions to the complex will include a swimming pool and a deck overlooking the river.

"To be able to look at developing something where we could put water on the river is a priority," Tiger said, "not only with what we want to do with this facility, but other things that we have visions for in the future."

The resort, once finished, is expected to add around 800 new full-time jobs.

The projected annual economic impact of the additions is estimated at more than $135 million.

Hoss

Quote from: Townsend on March 19, 2013, 03:33:22 PM
Casino Expansion Could Mean More River Improvements

http://publicradiotulsa.org/post/casino-expansion-could-mean-more-river-improvements


After just getting back from St. Louis and seeing their riverfront, I'd love to see us do something with ours.  Just seems so difficult though.

Townsend

Quote from: Hoss on March 19, 2013, 03:39:03 PM
After just getting back from St. Louis and seeing their riverfront, I'd love to see us do something with ours.  Just seems so difficult though.

It might help when both sides of the river are owned by a wealthy tribe with strong business interests.

davideinstein

Quote from: Vision 2025 on March 19, 2013, 11:39:41 AM
For my friends at Tulsa Now:

PMg Native (a subsidiary of Program Management Group) is the overall Project Manager, we have been working with the Casino for the past six months assembling the team and I can tell you this is a really exciting project...creating a destination resort to draw from much larger demographic than the Tulsa Metro while providing excellent entertainment options for the region.

The renderings you have seen were produced by HKS (Dallas office) and they are the project Architect having been selected from 18 firms/teams invited to submit qualifications.

The Construction Manager is a Joint Venture of Manhattan and Redstone.

And yes the project team fully understands the River and the RED is going to be addressed!

Kirby




How is making us the Branson of casinos exciting? We're better than this.

Red Arrow

Quote from: Hoss on March 19, 2013, 03:39:03 PM
After just getting back from St. Louis and seeing their riverfront, I'd love to see us do something with ours.  Just seems so difficult though.

Arkansas River vs. Mississippi River might be a player.
 

guido911

Quote from: Red Arrow on March 19, 2013, 04:15:11 PM
Arkansas River vs. Mississippi River might be a player.

Yep. Helps to have some damned water in the Arkansas "river". I mean, Arkansas sand trap.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

carltonplace

I noticed that sand is being moved in Zink Lake.

AquaMan

#43
I have confidence in Kirby's knowledge of how this river works and how to work with it. Its his business to know. The proposed water park at 31st is creative, exciting and ultimately the best type of participatory use of the river. Tons better than standing on the top of a casino hotel with champagne glasses.

I have no confidence that Tulsa has the stomach to participate in the real life issues and costs that river development will entail. Security, ongoing maintenance, repair, management and operational costs. Those who have followed this 50 year depressing saga of proposed dams and entertainment on the river know that the original Zink dam built in the early 80's was supposed to be kept operational by regular dredging. Now, 30 years later, promoters include that dredging as key to keeping the lakes usable. Genius.

I have no confidence that River Parks Authority knows anything but how to mow the grass, cut down trees, mark the paths and manipulate its funding sources and the press. Shaving sand off the bars in order to cover them with water is phony baloney. Total PR. Just like shaving, the beard is sure to come back quickly. The current sand bars are a couple seasons in making.

I remember writing a decade ago that Tulsa is not a "water" community and that doing a business on the river would have to be supported by outside interests, outside patronage and in spite of the locals errant view that the river is alternately a sand trap or a polluted mess. Tulsa, it seems, is about beer, gambling, restaurants, oil and religion. Oh,yeah, and guns. Of course, guns and gun shows.

I wish Bartlett, the Chamber and the Creeks bon chance. You have to ask, "If we can put water in the river in 5 years or less, why haven't we done so?" Doesn't matter to me anymore, my 5 year plan has me somewhere else.
onward...through the fog

RecycleMichael

Water makes you stupid. Look at surfers.
Power is nothing till you use it.