Republican Party seems divided...

[tulsabug]

It would be interesting to see that folder.  Do they have internal folders on all the local pilots?  I'm sure that Inhofe is not on the FAA's favorite pilot list.  Have you ever had a police/trooper car follow you until you make a mistake?

I'm sure those characteristics are abundant in Congress and that they cross party lines.

No - only Inhofe as he made sure the incidents didn't get to the FAA so the airport kept their own records. No one else had that power. This wasn't the FAA having a hard-on for Inhofe - this was Inhofe being above the rules. No one tells little Jimmy what to do.

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No - only Inhofe as he made sure the incidents didn't get to the FAA so the airport kept their own records. No one else had that power. This wasn't the FAA having a hard-on for Inhofe - this was Inhofe being above the rules. No one tells little Jimmy what to do.

Got it.  Local vigilante group that hates Inhofe makes list of every possible oops.  I would really need to see the list and how Inhofe used methods not available to other pilots to avoid actions by the FAA before condemning Inhofe for his flying.

[tulsabug]

Got it.  Local vigilante group that hates Inhofe makes list of every possible oops.  I would really need to see the list and how Inhofe used methods not available to other pilots to avoid actions by the FAA before condemning Inhofe for his flying.

Got it.  Local vigilante group that hates Inhofe makes list of every possible oops.  I would really need to see the list and how Inhofe used methods not available to other pilots to avoid actions by the FAA before condemning Inhofe for his flying.

So air traffic controllers and airport managers at multiple airports are a "local vigilante group"? I guess you're on board with Jan 6th being "legitimate political discourse" too? 

In one incident in 2010 Inhofe landed his plane on a closed runway with construction workers on it. He used his power as a Senator to tell FAA it wasn't his fault and the FAA was actually at fault for trying to enforce basic pilot safety rules. He then wrote several "Pilots Bill of Rights" - which were branded the "Inhofe Revenge Bills" - which basically limit the FAA's ability to censure pilots.

From the 2010 incident (which wasn't his only one) - 'The Smoking Gun has the recordings of the construction workers and airport managers calling the FAA after Inhofe nearly killed them. For example: In a recorded conversation with Lee Williams, an FAA quality assurance specialist, airport manager Marshall Reece tore into Inhofe’s piloting. “I’ve got over 50 years flying, three tours of Vietnam,” Reece said, “and I can assure you I have never seen such a reckless disregard for human life in my life.” He then added, “Something needs to be done. This guy is famous for these violations.”
Another recording captured a transmission from an air traffic controller who offered a concise account of Inhofe’s antics flying his 1978 Cessna (tail number N115EA): “N115 Echo Alpha landed right in the middle of them doing their work on runway 1331 and damn near killed somebody out there.”'

Here's the article - http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/bizarre/inhofe-scared-crap-out-airport-workers-192645

The thing is - his crappy piloting and abuse of professional power to avoid the consequences of his actions is minor compared to everything else he's done - climate-change denier, Covid-denier (funny since he now has Covid), pro-discrimination towards gays and any religion that isn't Christian, using taxpayer money to take missionary trips to Africa, insider trading, throwing military contracts towards former aids who are now lobbyists, voting to end special funding for minority and women-owned businesses, voted to repeal the Disadvantaged Business Enterprise Program, voted to loosed restrictions on cell phone wiretapping, voted against relief for Hurricane Sandy, tried to bring back earmarks to the Senate, voted to convict and remove Clinton but not Trump, pro-fracking, and on and on and on.

But whatever - defend Senator Snowball all you want.

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So air traffic controllers and airport managers at multiple airports are a "local vigilante group"? I guess you're on board with Jan 6th being "legitimate political discourse" too?  

In one incident in 2010 Inhofe landed his plane on a closed runway with construction workers on it. He used his power as a Senator to tell FAA it wasn't his fault and the FAA was actually at fault for trying to enforce basic pilot safety rules. He then wrote several "Pilots Bill of Rights" - which were branded the "Inhofe Revenge Bills" - which basically limit the FAA's ability to censure pilots.

From the 2010 incident (which wasn't his only one) - 'The Smoking Gun has the recordings of the construction workers and airport managers calling the FAA after Inhofe nearly killed them. For example: In a recorded conversation with Lee Williams, an FAA quality assurance specialist, airport manager Marshall Reece tore into Inhofe’s piloting. “I’ve got over 50 years flying, three tours of Vietnam,” Reece said, “and I can assure you I have never seen such a reckless disregard for human life in my life.” He then added, “Something needs to be done. This guy is famous for these violations.”
Another recording captured a transmission from an air traffic controller who offered a concise account of Inhofe’s antics flying his 1978 Cessna (tail number N115EA): “N115 Echo Alpha landed right in the middle of them doing their work on runway 1331 and damn near killed somebody out there.”'

The thing is - his crappy piloting and abuse of professional power to avoid the consequences of his actions is minor compared to everything else he's done - climate-change denier, Covid-denier (funny since he now has Covid), pro-discrimination towards gays and any religion that isn't Christian, using taxpayer money to take missionary trips to Africa, insider trading, throwing military contracts towards former aids who are now lobbyists, voting to end special funding for minority and women-owned businesses, voted to repeal the Disadvantaged Business Enterprise Program, voted to loosed restrictions on cell phone wiretapping, voted against relief for Hurricane Sandy, tried to bring back earmarks to the Senate, voted to convict and remove Clinton but not Trump, pro-fracking, and on and on and on.

But whatever - defend Senator Snowball all you want.

I get it, you hate Inhofe.  You like the idea of Secret Police.

Yep, the runway incident was his bad.

Don't assume anything on the 6 Jan incident.  I am NOT a Trumpster.

The Pilot's Bill of Rights had bipartisan support.  The only 3 letter agency that strikes fear into American citizens more than the FAA is the IRS.  The FAA needed to be reigned in. The Pilot's Bill of Rights is NOT a get out of jail free card.  Read it.

The rest of your complaints are political and have nothing to do with his flying.  I agree with some and not with others. You and I will probably never agree on anything though.

Edit:  I had the same opinion of Jim Jones and Mike Synar that you do about Inhofe

Edit 2:  Gerrymandering SE Tulsa and north Bixby to Synar's district was an example of the Democratic Party at its (not) finest.

[dbacksfan 2.0]

The thing is - his crappy piloting and abuse of professional power to avoid the consequences of his actions is minor compared to everything else he's done - climate-change denier, Covid-denier (funny since he now has Covid), pro-discrimination towards gays and any religion that isn't Christian, using taxpayer money to take missionary trips to Africa, insider trading, throwing military contracts towards former aids who are now lobbyists, voting to end special funding for minority and women-owned businesses, voted to repeal the Disadvantaged Business Enterprise Program, voted to loosed restrictions on cell phone wiretapping, voted against relief for Hurricane Sandy, tried to bring back earmarks to the Senate, voted to convict and remove Clinton but not Trump, pro-fracking, and on and on and on.

You do know that the corruption in Oklahoma is almost as old as the state and it reaches across both sides of the aisle. Oklahoma holds the record for the most county commissioners indicted by the FBI in the history of the US.

https://www.oklahoman.com/article/2056279/toll-230-as-book-closes-on-county-commissioner-scandal

https://www.normantranscript.com/opinion/column-county-commissioner-scandal-touched-60-of-77-counties/article_4375fd6a-f178-11eb-8d09-e33473a2c773.html

And your beloved Democratic party had one of the most corrupt Governors in Oklahoma history in David Hall who was indicted and convicted of extorsion, bribery and racketeering and served time in a federal facility alongside Nixon's buddy John Ehrlichman.

Three days after leaving office in January 1975, Hall was indicted on federal racketeering and extortion charges, in a conspiracy involving Hall and Oklahoma Secretary of State John Rogers willfully steering State of Oklahoma employee retiree funds to investment funds controlled by Dallas, Texas, businessman W. W. "Doc" Taylor. At Hall's trial, Rogers testified that he became an informant after Hall offered him a bribe. Hall was convicted of bribery and extortion, and became the first Oklahoma Governor to be convicted of criminal acts committed during his tenure. After exhausting all appeals, he served 19 months of a three-year sentence at the Federal Correctional Institution, Safford. (John Ehrlichman, of Watergate fame, was also housed at the same time at Safford.) Upon his release from prison in 1978, he was disbarred by the Oklahoma Bar Association, which effectively prevented him from practicing law in Oklahoma. Leaving the public spotlight, he moved to La Jolla, California, where he worked in real estate and other ventures

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hall_(Oklahoma_governor)

https://www.kgou.org/oklahoma-news/2016-05-06/former-oklahoma-gov-david-hall-convicted-of-bribery-and-extortion-dies-at-85

I never voted for Inhofe in my life as a Republican in Oklahoma from the time I registered in 1981 until I moved to Arizona in 1998. (born in Tulsa in 1963) In the late 80's I had a bumper sticker on my car that said "When All Else Fails, Sue Your Brother, Glassco For Senate" because I figured all the money I had been paying him to handle my divorce and child custody should go to a worthy opponent.

[tulsabug]

I get it, you hate Inhofe.  You like the idea of Secret Police.

Yep, the runway incident was his bad.

Don't assume anything on the 6 Jan incident.  I am NOT a Trumpster.

The Pilot's Bill of Rights had bipartisan support.  The only 3 letter agency that strikes fear into American citizens more than the FAA is the IRS.  The FAA needed to be reigned in. The Pilot's Bill of Rights is NOT a get out of jail free card.  Read it.

The rest of your complaints are political and have nothing to do with his flying.  I agree with some and not with others. You and I will probably never agree on anything though.

Edit:  I had the same opinion of Jim Jones and Mike Synar that you do about Inhofe

Edit 2:  Gerrymandering SE Tulsa and north Bixby to Synar's district was an example of the Democratic Party at its (not) finest.

Actually I'm sure we agree on lots of things. I threw the Trumper thing out there just to see where you'd draw the line. Personally if Dems had done what Repubs did on Jan 6th I would leave the party but to each his own. You can't unscramble that egg but have fun if you think you can by sticking with them.

Look - I don't hate the guy. I really don't tend to hate people in general. My wife's grandmother now did hate Inhofe however she went to school with him - she said he was the biggest a$$hole which is funny to hear from a grandmother. Inhofe is just a poor representative of the state of Oklahoma and it's people and he always has been. I haven't got a clue why anyone would vote for him but I'm guessing religion plays a large part of it - probably the same reason someone like Ted Cruz can get elected. Even Inhofe's hand-picked replacement states he has the exact same values as Inhofe and said "As your next senator, I will continue the Inhofe legacy of defending our Christian values..." so I guess all other religions and anyone who is not religious will have no representation - same as with Inhofe. I'm not going to debate Inhofe further - it really doesn't matter at this point - he's leaving so neither of us can vote or not vote for him again.

[tulsabug]

You do know that the corruption in Oklahoma is almost as old as the state and it reaches across both sides of the aisle. Oklahoma holds the record for the most county commissioners indicted by the FBI in the history of the US.

https://www.oklahoman.com/article/2056279/toll-230-as-book-closes-on-county-commissioner-scandal

https://www.normantranscript.com/opinion/column-county-commissioner-scandal-touched-60-of-77-counties/article_4375fd6a-f178-11eb-8d09-e33473a2c773.html

And your beloved Democratic party had one of the most corrupt Governors in Oklahoma history in David Hall who was indicted and convicted of extorsion, bribery and racketeering and served time in a federal facility alongside Nixon's buddy John Ehrlichman.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hall_(Oklahoma_governor)

https://www.kgou.org/oklahoma-news/2016-05-06/former-oklahoma-gov-david-hall-convicted-of-bribery-and-extortion-dies-at-85

I never voted for Inhofe in my life as a Republican in Oklahoma from the time I registered in 1981 until I moved to Arizona in 1998. (born in Tulsa in 1963) In the late 80's I had a bumper sticker on my car that said "When All Else Fails, Sue Your Brother, Glassco For Senate" because I figured all the money I had been paying him to handle my divorce and child custody should go to a worthy opponent.

Well - in Oklahoma's defense - we all started as criminals didn't we?

[patric]

But whatever - defend Senator Snowball all you want.

The bar is set pretty low right now anyway.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican leaders in Congress are torn over what to do with Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene after the congresswoman spoke at a weekend event organized by a white nationalist who marveled over Russia’s invasion of Ukraine as the crowd erupted in chants of “Putin!”

House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy called the congresswoman’s speech on the same stage “unacceptable.” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell said “there’s no place in the Republican Party for white supremacists.”

Yet it’s unclear whether Greene will face any further reprimand or rebuke for what is now an ongoing pattern of startling behavior. McCarthy had previously suggested the Georgia congresswoman, who is now barred by Democrats from committees, would enjoy a promotion i f Republicans take control of the House.

[Tulsa Zephyr]

Well - in Oklahoma's defense - we all started as criminals didn't we?

Not all of us started as criminals.  My ancestors had some nice property in Georgia before they were forced to relocate to Indian Territory/Oklahoma.

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Not all of us started as criminals.  My ancestors had some nice property in Georgia before they were forced to relocate to Indian Territory/Oklahoma.

Just curious, do you know which part of Georgia?

[dbacksfan 2.0]

Well - in Oklahoma's defense - we all started as criminals didn't we?

No. My paternal and maternal grandparents immigrated from Europe to the US from Northern Europe(mom) and Great Britain(dad) in the early 1920's, and no one in the family resided in Oklahoma until 1955.

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My family came here in the 1920's as well. My wife's family was on that all expense paid luxury vacation from Georgia in the 1820s.

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Well - in Oklahoma's defense - we all started as criminals didn't we?

Great Britain on mom's side, middle European on dad's side.  No one in the families lived in Oklahoma until dad accepted a transfer here in 1971 from near Phila, PA.

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My grandfather was from Saskatoon, he was signed by the Tulsa Oilers to play hockey in 1929. Very English/Scottish. Tanning is not an option for me.  I look translucent next to my native wife and kids.

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Very English/Scottish. Tanning is not an option for me. 

I had to use lots of suntan lotion when younger.  Now I just use SPF 50.