Hobby Lobby or How I Chose God Over Country

[guido911]

Yuck.

Now, for a quick diversion - they make M & M's with DARK chocolate!!   Who knew....??

And if they did, why didn't anyone tell me??

You just HAD to take that one thing from me.

[heironymouspasparagus]

You just HAD to take that one thing from me.

YOU KNEW???   And didn't tell me??   What kind of friend are you???



And now, back to the topic at hand....well, it may be that birth control isn't covered, but don't worry guys - Viagra still IS !!!!

[guido911]

YOU KNEW???   And didn't tell me??   What kind of friend are you???



And now, back to the topic at hand....well, it may be that birth control isn't covered, but don't worry guys - Viagra still IS !!!!

Viagra is birth control?

[guido911]

This pic has gone viral, with hate abound.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Viagra is birth control?

No.  But it is an unnecessary to health compound that is mandated - mostly for old white guys - while birth control is arguably not just a health related issue, but leads to a whole host of adverse issues for society when it doesn't happen and unwanted babies do.

[Gaspar]

Under ACA , birth control coverage is also mandated for old white guys.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Under ACA , birth control coverage is also mandated for old white guys.

Good!!  We're protected, then!  Would hate to start that nonsense (kids!) all over again!!

[Conan71]

I could care less for Glenn Beck, but Ron Paul nails it:

On Wednesday, former Texas Congressman Ron Paul appeared on The Glenn Beck Program to give his take on the Supreme Court’s recent Hobby Lobby decision.

“It’s such a shame that we’re going through this thing. If we lived in a free society and we recognized a more concise definition of rights, these kind of debates wouldn’t go on,” Dr. Paul told guest host Dana Loesch.

Paul blasted the left for skewing the definition of individual rights, noting that ‘wants’ and ‘rights’ are two completely different things.

“It’s the whole issue of the understanding of what rights are, and mandates that we shouldn’t have… If we had that, then we wouldn’t have to go through this agony.”

Paul doesn’t believe that the phrase “women’s rights” should be used by the left describe how Hobby Lobby chooses to treat their employees. Instead of focusing on women’s rights, we should focus on the rights of all individuals and not divide one another into race or gender or creed.

“Demands and desires and needs can’t become rights, and that’s why we have a society today that, anyone who needs or wants something [says], ‘We have a right to this.’ But they never say, ‘Whose rights must we violate in order to get what we want?’”

- See more at: http://rare.us/story/ron-paul-slams-the-left-over-hobby-lobby-wants-and-rights-are-two-different-things/#sthash.mtnBJ1Xh.dpuf

[Hoss]

Awesome. A district judge essentially takes the SCOTUS to task and tells them to ****.

http://herculesandtheumpire.com/2014/07/05/remembering-alexander-bickels-passive-virtues-and-the-hobby-lobby-cases/

[AquaMan]

Thanks Hoss. That hit the spot.

[guido911]

Awesome. A district judge essentially takes the SCOTUS to task and tells them to ****.

http://herculesandtheumpire.com/2014/07/05/remembering-alexander-bickels-passive-virtues-and-the-hobby-lobby-cases/

Did you read that article? If so, then this is one potential outcome of judicial deference/restraint.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Did you read that article? If so, then this is one potential outcome of judicial deference/restraint.

It wasn't about jumping first thing to the most radical, extreme position.  It's about using a little discretion.  

But that would not play to the obviously political agenda this court has...corporations are people...??  Yeah...I wonder what the Pope would say about that...?  Might be tough to say given some of the radical precedents that office has presided over.

[AquaMan]

I read it and didn't see the huge leap you made, G. But then I'm not entrenched in radical politics and using law as a weapon.

Putin makes some pragmatic points. Sounds a lot like posters on this forum, actually.

[guido911]

I read it and didn't see the huge leap you made, G. But then I'm not entrenched in radical politics and using law as a weapon.

Putin makes some pragmatic points. Sounds a lot like posters on this forum, actually.

The judicial restraint argument both diminishes the role of one-third of our federal government, and further ignores the accomplishments the S.C. made in the face of the failure in the other two.

[AquaMan]

Your opinion is not widely shared. One person's accomplishment is anothers abject failure.

Its like a Congress that approves a bill then refuses to appropriate funds for it. Or a Congress that refuses to consider presidential appointments. Or a president who pockets vetoes. Decisions are often made by making no overt steps at all. That is in fact, a form of decision making, not a failure.