TULSA'S WATER GOES DOWN THE DRAIN!

[shadows]

I prefer unsweetened ice tea or just plain water.  Sometimes a squeeze of fresh lemon or lime in the tea or water is nice too.

Some years ago Tulsa added a carbon filter to their water system.
The soft drink industry use a unique dual filtering system before the syrup and flavoring is added to the water including carbon filtering.
Plastics, as made by the designer of nature, have a tendency to be in constant deterioration from aging.
Houses built with galvanized piping will coat on the inside of the pipe with a stone substance.
Use of any lead or soldier in home construction can be detrimental in time.

Be safe and wear a gas mask at all times as we decrease the air quality that is so essential to preserve life as we know it. When one looks at the ozone cloud over the city from five miles out one can enjoy the enormous road construction underway to get the autos into the city faster.   



 
 

[Hoss]

Some years ago Tulsa added a carbon filter to their water system.
The soft drink industry use a unique dual filtering system before the syrup and flavoring is added to the water including carbon filtering.
Plastics, as made by the designer of nature, have a tendency to be in constant deterioration from aging.
Houses built with galvanized piping will coat on the inside of the pipe with a stone substance.
Use of any lead or soldier in home construction can be detrimental in time.

Be safe and wear a gas mask at all times as we decrease the air quality that is so essential to preserve life as we know it. When one looks at the ozone cloud over the city from five miles out one can enjoy the enormous road construction underway to get the autos into the city faster.   



 
 

I bet you see that cloud easily from its pink hue.

[Red Arrow]

When one looks at the ozone cloud over the city from five miles out one can enjoy the enormous road construction underway to get the autos into the city faster.   

You must have Ozone Vision. 

I have seen the city up close and from many miles and the Ozone Cloud is not visible.  There is no dome of visible Ozone over Tulsa.  When the visibility sucks, it sucks all over - all over North East Oklahoma.  When the visibility over N.E. Oklahoma is good, it is also good over Tulsa.

[nathanm]

Use of any [...] soldier in home construction can be detrimental in time.

Happily, the third amendment exists to deal with precisely this problem.

[AquaMan]

I prefer unsweetened ice tea or just plain water.  Sometimes a squeeze of fresh lemon or lime in the tea or water is nice too.

After many years, I have finally convinced my wife of the beautiful simplicity of sun brewed tea (in a large Mason jar if possible), a few slices of lemon and cut with filtered water, poured over ice as the best summer drink ever made. No sweetener. Brisk. Refreshing. The stuff advertising campaigns are made of.

[Red Arrow]

After many years, I have finally convinced my wife of the beautiful simplicity of sun brewed tea (in a large Mason jar if possible), a few slices of lemon and cut with filtered water, poured over ice as the best summer drink ever made. No sweetener. Brisk. Refreshing. The stuff advertising campaigns are made of.

Sun brewed tea is good.  Moon brewed tea is even better.  No kidding, put the jar anywhere overnight and you will have some awesome tea without the bitterness (at least I think it's the bitterness) that even sun brewed tea has due to getting warm.  We have some 1 gallon clear glass "Lipton Sun Tea" jars with a plastic top having a flip up section for a pouring opening.  I don't know if they are still available.

Edit:  I was looking to see if Sun Tea jars were still available and ended up here:
http://www.snopes.com/food/prepare/suntea.asp

Moon tea may be a safer alternative to sun tea.

[AquaMan]

Sun brewed tea is good.  Moon brewed tea is even better.  No kidding, put the jar anywhere overnight and you will have some awesome tea without the bitterness (at least I think it's the bitterness) that even sun brewed tea has due to getting warm.  We have some 1 gallon clear glass "Lipton Sun Tea" jars with a plastic top having a flip up section for a pouring opening.  I don't know if they are still available.

Edit:  I was looking to see if Sun Tea jars were still available and ended up here:
http://www.snopes.com/food/prepare/suntea.asp

Moon tea may be a safer alternative to sun tea.

I've been pretty lucky I guess. Come to think of it, I was ill last week commensurate with drinking about a gallon during the weekend. No more sun tea for me (or moon tea either)!

Are there any fond memories and practices from my youth that remain un-molested from science?

[Red Arrow]

Are there any fond memories and practices from my youth that remain un-molested from science?

Probably not.  It's amazing that humans have survived long enough to determine that we shouldn't have.

[sgrizzle]

Are you referring to a premature death or just that fact that we all eventually die?

Premature. Something new every night. My favorite is that you are never supposed to leave your dishwasher running when you aren't home or your house will burn down. Conversely it releases carcinogens in the are that will cause you to die from cancer unless you run it when you're not home.

So burn your house down or die from cancer, but hopefully your dishes will be squeaky clean.

[Red Arrow]

So burn your house down or die from cancer, but hopefully your dishes will be squeaky clean.

Or... burn your house down, have a heart attack and die before you get cancer.

[patric]

Are there any fond memories and practices from my youth that remain un-molested from science?

Bottle-rocket fights with the other neighborhood kids?
My accuracy was greatly improved when my weapons platform was a PVC pipe near the top of a great 100-year old cedar tree (long since gone).

[AquaMan]

Bottle-rocket fights with the other neighborhood kids?
My accuracy was greatly improved when my weapons platform was a PVC pipe near the top of a great 100-year old cedar tree (long since gone).

We set an open field on fire during a bottle rocket war with some campers on Grand Lake. Pepsi bottles were the basic tool but sometimes you just lit it and threw it at the last minute. They were camped on the tip of a peninsula while we were in a nearby cabin. Once the fire started and we all realized serious damage would ensue we became fellow firefighters!

[Conan71]

When was the conversion to in-house poly pipe in place of copper?  I would think there are a lot of Tulsa area houses old enough to have copper.  Our place was built in 1968 and it has copper.

Mine was built with galvanized pipe and eventually replaced with quite a bit of copper.  I'm aware of houses being built with either PEX or copper these days.  I don't think copper has entirely disappeared from new construction in spite of the cost.

[heironymouspasparagus]

I've been pretty lucky I guess. Come to think of it, I was ill last week commensurate with drinking about a gallon during the weekend. No more sun tea for me (or moon tea either)!

Are there any fond memories and practices from my youth that remain un-molested from science?

Health Department class to become Certified Food Manager teaches about the possible issues with Sun Tea.

Luckily, there is an EXCELLENT alternative that doesn't pose any of the risks and makes tea that is sublime - never any bitterness.  Use the same container and process that you would with sun tea, but then place it in the refrigerator overnight.  Brews even better, but takes longer time.  Can take 10 - 12 hours, and leaving it longer doesn't seem to hurt anything.  Same effect - it is just cool/cold temp brewing instead of high temp.  Makes even Lipton taste very good!

I have a gallon jar with a solar cell in the lid, and a motorized paddle to stir the tea while brewing in the sun.... sadly, it is wasted now.

Takes a little planning, and if you are gonna have company, make two.  Or three.

[heironymouspasparagus]

When was the conversion to in-house poly pipe in place of copper?  I would think there are a lot of Tulsa area houses old enough to have copper.  Our place was built in 1968 and it has copper.

1959 they were still using galvanized into the house, with copper branches from the feeder lines (to sinks, etc).  We got to replace some of that in the 80's. 

IF the copper was done PROPERLY - using silver solder - there should never be an issue with lead leaching - it's silver and tin.  The question is, whether the plumber at the time was willing to spend the small extra money to use the correct solder....

My concern about PEX (and I have used it in some places for about 10 years) is just what the long term effects are.  We thought all these previous things were good ideas at one point (Asbestos, lead, Edsels, Republicans...) and eventually figures out just how wrong we were.  PEX is slightly more forgiving if there is a cold weather situation where water in a pipe might freeze.

Any house I would build (or remodel an existing one) would have copper pipe everywhere.  It is still very cost effective, most durable, and least likely to eventually have some health issue - it has been with us for how many thousands of years with no identified adverse health effects?