Changes to Tulsa's residential trash system

[dbacks fan]

Just an observation, but this sounds like a giant mongollian cf. I get the changes of containers, and days of the week pickup, and garbage in one container, and recycle in another, and I get people getting used to the new process, but it just seem like a not well planned change, and people not informed adequately about the change. The reason I ask is that there should have been some communication between Tulsa, BA, Jenks, Owasso, Bixby, Sapulpa, Sand Springs, et al, since most of them I would guess use the same landfill/recycle depots. Or is this a case of city X is doing such, and cities W,Y,Z,A,B,C have their own agenda as to handling their waste?

[Hoss]

Just an observation, but this sounds like a giant mongollian cf. I get the changes of containers, and days of the week pickup, and garbage in one container, and recycle in another, and I get people getting used to the new process, but it just seem like a not well planned change, and people not informed adequately about the change. The reason I ask is that there should have been some communication between Tulsa, BA, Jenks, Owasso, Bixby, Sapulpa, Sand Springs, et al, since most of them I would guess use the same landfill/recycle depots. Or is this a case of city X is doing such, and cities W,Y,Z,A,B,C have their own agenda as to handling their waste?

Tulsa handles their own.  And it was NOT a big charley foxtrot.  New article this morning talked about those who put out trash on the wrong day were mainly on the westside.  The midtown area was a lot better about it.  And they DID publicize it quite a bit, whether in electronic media, or in the individual mailer (which I received last week) giving a map and telling you what the new day of pickup was.  Considering TRI waited until virtually the last minute to (not) notify the city they would not be able to continue, I thought this went over pretty well.  All things considered.

And given they've been talking change to the trash service since 2009, only those who have their heads in the sand wouldn't know some sort of change was coming.  I've said this all along, if you're not keeping informed about what your city is doing about your new trash service, it's you who's to blame.  Not the city.

[Red Arrow]

JThe reason I ask is that there should have been some communication between Tulsa, BA, Jenks, Owasso, Bixby, Sapulpa, Sand Springs, et al, since most of them I would guess use the same landfill/recycle depots. Or is this a case of city X is doing such, and cities W,Y,Z,A,B,C have their own agenda as to handling their waste?

We have private trash haulers in Bixby.  I would also assume the trash goes to the same depots but we pay the haulers directly, not through the City of Bixby.

http://bixby.com/city-departments/utilities

[sgrizzle]

Just an observation, but this sounds like a giant mongollian cf. I get the changes of containers, and days of the week pickup, and garbage in one container, and recycle in another, and I get people getting used to the new process, but it just seem like a not well planned change, and people not informed adequately about the change. The reason I ask is that there should have been some communication between Tulsa, BA, Jenks, Owasso, Bixby, Sapulpa, Sand Springs, et al, since most of them I would guess use the same landfill/recycle depots. Or is this a case of city X is doing such, and cities W,Y,Z,A,B,C have their own agenda as to handling their waste?

Like Hoss said, TRI backed out at the last minute but they still managed to get repeated stories in every news outlet as well as mailers and door hangers. People who missed the change have no-one to blame but themselves.

[Hoss]

Like Hoss said, TRI backed out at the last minute but they still managed to get repeated stories in every news outlet as well as mailers and door hangers. People who missed the change have no-one to blame but themselves.

Oh, and a little off topic directly but generally on topic, this was the truck I saw Tuesday.



It was picked up around 9:15 am, as the picture shows.  I can't remember the last time my trash was picked up before noon.

[sgrizzle]

Oh, and a little off topic directly but generally on topic, this was the truck I saw Tuesday.



It was picked up around 9:15 am, as the picture shows.  I can't remember the last time my trash was picked up before noon.

Looks like they haven't gotten all the new trucks in yet.

But of course, their facebook page says their new fleet is supposed to start hauling in October.

[shadows]

Looks like they haven't gotten all the new trucks in yet.

But of course, their facebook page says their new fleet is supposed to start hauling in October.

Have no fear the new trucks will have s the very latest of features because they will be using your checkbook to pay for them.  Waite until the next July 4th and see what socialism can produce.     

[carltonplace]

I'm certain we will be cursing our socialized lack of mounding piles of garbage and increased citizen participation in recycling. The future is very bleak.

[midtownnewbie]

They picked up our trash this morning.  They even picked up boxes that were not BAGGED in front of my neighbor's house!!!   

[Townsend]

They picked up our trash this morning.  They even picked up boxes that were not BAGGED in front of my neighbor's house!!!

The only issues I've seen with the garbage system is on some unsupported local news stories like this.  Note the end of the story stating; "The city has received very few phone calls related to miscollection," said city of Tulsa spokeswoman Liz Hunt."

Out of 9 commenters, only one bitched about it -

Mike McMahon - "I hate that that now its only Thursday for me. I always remember sunday nights to take out trash and always miss thursday pick up. Also, wheres my new can I have to pay for?"

 Obviously someone who hasn't bothered to read any of the information sent to him.

Tulsa's trash transition not so smooth as residents report delays in pickup

TULSA - Trash changes have been creating a stink for some residents around Tulsa.

There have been some bumps in the road this first week, but officials say it will be all downhill from here.

"Everyone I know is talking about the trash. Family gatherings, get together with friends," said midtown Tulsa resident Lauren Van Allen.

Van Allen says learning the new schedule has been difficult in her neighborhood.

"We've had people put out their garbage along the street the whole week, so there's been a lot of false starts," said Van Allen.

In a neighborhood on the other side of town, the story was the same. But to top it off, the haulers missed their pick-up by a day.

"We had some from Monday, all day Monday, all day Tuesday and into Wednesday morning," said east Tulsa resident Carole Warren.

"It smelled, literally," she said.

The new hauler, NeWSolutions , attributes some of troubles to the interim trash contract.

Tulsa's trash contract expired June 30; the new contract with New Solutions officially starts October 1.  

"Somebody has got to haul the trash and we're going to get it hauled that's what we do," said NeWSolutions spokesman Gary Percefull.

The new hauler agreed to fill in during the interim, but wasn't fully prepared.  

They've had to bring on some contractors to help fill in the gaps, and no test runs were performed.

"It was kind of a big surprise and really quick start," said Percefull. "We've got new drivers, we've got new maps, new routes, there's so many changes."

But all in all, officials with both the city of Tulsa and NeWSolutions the week has gone well.

"The city has received very few phone calls related to miscollection," said city of Tulsa spokeswoman Liz Hunt.
"We're going to work really hard and bend over backwards and try to make sure people are happy," said Percefull.

This story is an example of dumbassed local reporting IMO.

[Hoss]

The only issues I've seen with the garbage system is on some unsupported local news stories like this.  Note the end of the story stating; "The city has received very few phone calls related to miscollection," said city of Tulsa spokeswoman Liz Hunt."

Out of 9 commenters, only one bitched about it -   Obviously someone who hasn't bothered to read any of the information sent to him.

Tulsa's trash transition not so smooth as residents report delays in pickup

This story is an example of dumbassed local reporting IMO.

How can you call KOTV local reporting anymore really?  They share news stories with Channel 9 in OKC.  That's why I quit watching their news...

[Townsend]

How can you call KOTV local reporting anymore really?  They share news stories with Channel 9 in OKC.  That's why I quit watching their news...

Oops, I forgot to place the link.  It was a KJRH post.

http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_news/tulsas-trash-transition-not-so-smooth-as-residents-report-delays-in-pickup

[Hoss]

Oops, I forgot to place the link.  It was a KJRH post.

http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_news/tulsas-trash-transition-not-so-smooth-as-residents-report-delays-in-pickup

My comment about KOTV still stands though.   

[Townsend]

My comment about KOTV still stands though.   

Of course.

[shadows]

I'm certain we will be cursing our socialized lack of mounding piles of garbage and increased citizen participation in recycling. The future is very bleak.

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On going over the items subject to recycling one can see that all common items can be recycled.  Citizens with a garbage disposal now pay a fee each month to use the city sewer to dispose of the waste it generates.  If they do not create any trash that needs to be disposed of in the pristine form but can load all recyclables in recycling cart for the city to sell, will that reduce or eliminate their trash bill?

Many of the Tulsa Natives are counting their pennies now days as their savings and pensions are under increasing run-a-way inflation.  Many started their retirement’s savings working at the minimum wage of 25 cents per hour.