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« Reply #120 on: November 19, 2012, 08:04:35 pm »

It would please me if the sprouts would come back.

They will be back in a couple of weeks.
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« Reply #121 on: November 19, 2012, 10:03:28 pm »

They will be back in a couple of weeks.

Excellent news!  Grin
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« Reply #122 on: November 21, 2012, 08:38:15 am »

  I'll give ya two regulations right off that I am working on with my gift shop downtown.  1.  I am told I have to have two water fountains, a "high-low".  Water cooler or bottled water won't work.  Thats over a thousand dollars out of my pocket to have it bought and installed.  Could have cost much more but I found a place to put it where it wouldn't cost too much but could still be public and ADA accessible.  Basically, when you walk into the store, the first thing you see, isn't something wonderful and fancy but... an ugly water fountain lol.  Oh, well.  2.  Have to have a mop sink.  Never mind that I don't have a mop, still have to have the mop sink.  It can't be one of the ones on legs but has to be on/in the ground.  So bring out the jackhammers and tearing out sheetrock etc. to lay the water pipes, venting, etc. Could be another $1,500 or so  Am working on this second issue right now trying to get it taken care of so that I can open the gift shop in time for the other Deco District shops grand openings.  May have to cut off the second bathroom and turn it into a "mop closet".  Anyway, these and others have cost a pretty dime for me trying to start and open a small business.  Just those two things with labor and parts and permits and inspections could cost around $3,000 (not to mention all the time it's taken me to mess with these issues).  That's $3000 I now don't have to purchase products to sell in order to make money (which is the point of the exercise lol).  What's frustrating too is that I hear from many of the contractors over and over the refrain "We don't have to mess with this or that in Bixby or Jenks", etc.  Tulsa has adopted these added rules which make it more expensive, for the little guy especially, to start a new business.     
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« Reply #123 on: November 21, 2012, 10:25:48 am »

  I'll give ya two regulations right off that I am working on with my gift shop downtown.  1.  I am told I have to have two water fountains, a "high-low".  Water cooler or bottled water won't work.  Thats over a thousand dollars out of my pocket to have it bought and installed.  Could have cost much more but I found a place to put it where it wouldn't cost too much but could still be public and ADA accessible.  Basically, when you walk into the store, the first thing you see, isn't something wonderful and fancy but... an ugly water fountain lol.  Oh, well.  2.  Have to have a mop sink.  Never mind that I don't have a mop, still have to have the mop sink.  It can't be one of the ones on legs but has to be on/in the ground.  So bring out the jackhammers and tearing out sheetrock etc. to lay the water pipes, venting, etc. Could be another $1,500 or so  Am working on this second issue right now trying to get it taken care of so that I can open the gift shop in time for the other Deco District shops grand openings.  May have to cut off the second bathroom and turn it into a "mop closet".  Anyway, these and others have cost a pretty dime for me trying to start and open a small business.  Just those two things with labor and parts and permits and inspections could cost around $3,000 (not to mention all the time it's taken me to mess with these issues).  That's $3000 I now don't have to purchase products to sell in order to make money (which is the point of the exercise lol).  What's frustrating too is that I hear from many of the contractors over and over the refrain "We don't have to mess with this or that in Bixby or Jenks", etc.  Tulsa has adopted these added rules which make it more expensive, for the little guy especially, to start a new business.     

All those rules and regulations are what make Tulsa such a much better place than Bixby, Jenks, etc. to shop and do business.  Cheesy

Actually, I expect Bixby, Jenks, etc to have some weird regulations of their own making.

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« Reply #124 on: November 21, 2012, 11:17:20 am »

We now know a place to get a quick in and out drink of cold water.
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« Reply #125 on: November 21, 2012, 12:10:25 pm »

We now know a place to get a quick in and out drink of cold water.

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« Reply #126 on: November 21, 2012, 12:17:45 pm »

And pee

I thought you stopped using fountains for that.
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« Reply #127 on: November 21, 2012, 01:47:25 pm »

I'll give you an example as well, my in laws owned an extremely successful construction business that did mostly government work.  They had done work for Tulsa for years.  In the last couple of years a new requirement was put in for those that bid, you had to utilize Minority Owned subs or you wouldn't be considered to bid.  It didn't matter that he didn't use subs at all, or that his company was full of minorities . . . if he didn't give part of his bid to a minority owned sub, he would not win the bid.  He didn't appreciate the city telling him how to do his work, so guess what?  He liqudated and left others to deal with it.  He was successful enough that he had that option.  But they are spending less money in the economy, as are many of their employees who likely aren't making as much $$ elsewhere. 
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« Reply #128 on: November 21, 2012, 02:12:04 pm »

Government regulations also level the playing field by discouraging collusion, price fixing and gouging. Regulations ensure that the "ham" you are advertising in your Sandwich actually has some "ham" in it.

And yet, I've never found any ham in my hamburger.
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« Reply #129 on: November 21, 2012, 04:26:52 pm »

I'll give you an example as well, my in laws owned an extremely successful construction business that did mostly government work.  They had done work for Tulsa for years.  In the last couple of years a new requirement was put in for those that bid, you had to utilize Minority Owned subs or you wouldn't be considered to bid.  It didn't matter that he didn't use subs at all, or that his company was full of minorities . . . if he didn't give part of his bid to a minority owned sub, he would not win the bid.  He didn't appreciate the city telling him how to do his work, so guess what?  He liqudated and left others to deal with it.  He was successful enough that he had that option.  But they are spending less money in the economy, as are many of their employees who likely aren't making as much $$ elsewhere. 


Of course, you realize to the liberal mind-set your in-laws were simply being greedy and racist by electing not to utilize minority subs and simply liquidating, right?
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« Reply #130 on: November 21, 2012, 06:11:43 pm »

Of course, you realize to the liberal mind-set your in-laws were simply being greedy and racist by electing not to utilize minority subs and simply liquidating, right?

That is intuitively obvious to the most casual observer. 
 
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« Reply #131 on: November 22, 2012, 10:43:01 am »

That is intuitively obvious to the most casual observer. 
 
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« Reply #132 on: November 25, 2012, 03:07:27 pm »

I like sandwiches
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« Reply #133 on: November 30, 2012, 06:15:47 pm »

There will be a downtown store soon. I should have specifics sometime next week.
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« Reply #134 on: November 30, 2012, 06:33:11 pm »

I like sandwiches downtown
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