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Conan71
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« Reply #90 on: October 09, 2014, 07:49:53 am »

The Hello Kitty motif is a nice touch.  Very humane.



Love the trundle bed so they can do a twofer.
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« Reply #91 on: October 09, 2014, 02:23:46 pm »

The Hello Kitty motif is a nice touch.  Very humane.



Love the trundle bed so they can do a twofer.

Why not just get rid of lethal injection, gas chambers and anything else that is not 100% idiot-proof.

We should institute the VACUUM CHAMBER! 
100% effective
No environmental hazards
No expensive drugs
No need for windows
No vital sign monitoring equipment required
Soundproof (sound does not travel in a vacuum)
Low carbon footprint (Can run on stored solar or wind power Cheesy)
Easy cleanup with a hose and mop


Conan, I believe your company could respond to such an RFP with some minor retooling.
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« Reply #92 on: October 09, 2014, 02:49:35 pm »

Why not just get rid of lethal injection, gas chambers and anything else that is not 100% idiot-proof.

We should institute the VACUUM CHAMBER! 
100% effective
No environmental hazards
No expensive drugs
No need for windows
No vital sign monitoring equipment required
Soundproof (sound does not travel in a vacuum)
Low carbon footprint (Can run on stored solar or wind power Cheesy)
Easy cleanup with a hose and mop


Conan, I believe your company could respond to such an RFP with some minor retooling.


Yes, why yes we could!  Pressure vessel is a pressure vessel.
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« Reply #93 on: October 09, 2014, 04:22:37 pm »

Can you make that with the Hello Kitty upholstery inside?  Easy clean vinyl, of course....


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« Reply #94 on: October 11, 2014, 01:14:00 pm »

Although the news is reporting the execution was "botched", which is disputable since the inmate died and there was apparent (and common) IV infiltrate, this could be a signal for the end of the death penalty as we know it.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/state/execution-botched-before-inmate-dies-of-heart-attack-second-execution/article_80cc060a-cff2-11e3-967c-0017a43b2370.html


The death penalty could end anytime killers stop killing innocent people. If you don't kill there is no death penalty. People don't get on death row for being boy scouts and helping old ladies across the street. I think of the victims not the cold blooded killers. I'm no fan of injection it's slow & becoming problematic - but it's still better than having no death penalty.  I would favor replacing injection with a firing squad or hanging, faster and painless. With hanging the rope can used over and over. If it's not allowed in Oklahoma the law in Oklahoma needs to be changed to allow it. I understand the state of TN now allows firing squad.
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« Reply #95 on: October 13, 2014, 06:58:02 pm »


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A federal lawsuit to be filed Tuesday by the family of Clayton Lockett identifies a McAlester physician as the doctor who carried out the execution, records show.

The lawsuit by relatives of Lockett names Johnny Zellmer, a McAlester emergency room physician, as the doctor who carried out Lockett’s botched April 29 execution.

A state investigation into Lockett’s 43-minute execution concluded that a failed IV line was largely responsible for the problems. The investigation also cited a lack of training among participants in the execution.

The doctor that night was filling in for another physician who normally oversees executions at the Oklahoma State Penitentiary.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/homepagelatest/lawsuit-names-mcalester-er-physician-as-execution-doctor/article_7615331d-76b5-59ae-a700-f69a6bae6699.html




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« Reply #96 on: October 13, 2014, 07:32:36 pm »


I wonder if Stephanie Nieman’s family sued Lockett over her botched and painful execution.
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« Reply #97 on: October 13, 2014, 10:20:39 pm »

I wonder if Stephanie Nieman’s family sued Lockett over her botched and painful execution.

Hopefully, when "the government is exercising its greatest authority" it is doing so while being held to a higher standard than that of a common thug.

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« Reply #98 on: October 14, 2014, 08:57:54 am »

Hopefully, when "the government is exercising its greatest authority" it is doing so while being held to a higher standard than that of a common thug.



Government (all agencies, departments, bureaucracies, and individuals) have a set hierarchy of purpose that does not change.
1. Self preservation & insulation from public/political/market forces
2. Expansion

Any "standard" would come tertiary to these foundational principals, and would be subject to them.
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« Reply #99 on: October 30, 2021, 03:00:43 pm »

Doctors question sedative dose used in Oklahoma execution

While medical experts say it’s unclear why an Oklahoma inmate began convulsing and vomiting after the first of three drugs used to execute him was administered, all agree the dosage was massive compared with what’s standard in surgeries — with one doctor calling it “insane.”

“It’s just an insane dose and there’s probably no data on what that could cause,” said Jonathan Groner, an Ohio State University medical school surgery professor and lethal injection expert.
“There’s a reason these drugs are given by anesthesiologists and not prison guards,” he said.

The state almost surely will face new lawsuits over its execution protocols, said Robert Denham, executive director of the Death Penalty Information Center, a capital punishment clearing house that opposes the death penalty. The Corrections Department’s statement indicating that the execution wasn’t botched could provide proof of the protocols’ unconstitutionality, said Denham.

“Either they lied to the public and they can’t be trusted or they told the truth and the protocol can’t be trusted,” Denham said.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/doctors-question-sedative-dose-used-oklahoma-execution-n1282765
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