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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2011, 08:05:02 am »

Drivers in this area don't appear to get the concept of a crosswalk if it's at a stop light either.  They will stop in the middle of them waiting for a light to turn green.  This is especially bad at the exits of Riverspirit Casino and their smoke shop, as well as the lights at Yale and Memorial where people will try and creep forward to pull off a right on red to get onto the Creek Turnpike eastbound.

I've had verbal exchanges with motorists over this many times.  They are essentially parked on the pedestrian right of way when they do this.

IMO, Tulsa has some of the most inattentive and uncourteous drivers in the country.  It's almost like driving is a passive activity people do while they play with their iPad or smart phone.



Agreed, and I'm a Tulsan.  But, I notice that if people who live here have lived/driven in larger cities (for me that was Houston; I'm guessing for you Co that would be KC) they tend to be better drivers and a little more courteous.  Not trying to toot my own horn, but I guess many Tulsans don't know the concept of passing on the left and slower traffic on the right...
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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2011, 08:23:10 am »

The crosswalk across 1st St north of the BOk Tower is damn scary in the morning.
just in my 1 block walk from the parking garage to the Tower I typically see at least two cars blow through the red light with people in the cross walk.

Even after lunch people will run the light despite the fact that there is a TPD car parked there.

Bump the tickets for running a red light when a pedestrian is waiting for or in the pedestrian crossing to $500 a pop, set up 5 motorcycle cops here and raise the city a quick $25,000 each weekday morning for a week each month. You can easily catch 50 cars a day running that light on any given morning
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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2011, 08:23:26 am »

Agreed, and I'm a Tulsan.  But, I notice that if people who live here have lived/driven in larger cities (for me that was Houston; I'm guessing for you Co that would be KC) they tend to be better drivers and a little more courteous.  Not trying to toot my own horn, but I guess many Tulsans don't know the concept of passing on the left and slower traffic on the right...

Funny part is, it was actually a couple of Texans and a Missourian who were having problems with that concept on the Turner Turnpike Friday night.
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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2011, 10:08:15 pm »

Here in La Florida tonight we stopped in a parking lot to let a family in front of us pass. All of a sudden some guy in a Mustang flies past us at 30 mph or so on a one way street in a parking lot! I don't know how he didn't hit our mirror or someone in the family in front of us. What an idiot.
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« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2011, 12:54:17 pm »

Saw the signs here in Tulsa yesterday.  They are on typical crosswalk notification signs warning of a crosswalk over N. Sheridan Rd. in front of BizJet or Omni Air (can't remember) just before Port Rd.  They look simple but are clear in their message and bolt to the same kind of pole holding up the signs currently employed on Cherry Street.

You have got to be pulling on my leg that we can get them for employees of one company (No one else uses that sidewalk on Sheridan) and we can't put them on signs in our heaviest pedestrian areas.  It's not a complicated application.

Funny thing, I was behind two other cars that were stopped at that crosswalk for one person crossing the street - in a place I imagine the average driver doesn't expect a pedestrian.

The signs work - so why not employ them?
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« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2011, 12:58:12 pm »

Because of this thread I'm being more conscious of peds on Cherry Street.

Three of them looked at me for a bit yesterday before they realized I'd stopped for  them.

BTW, I enjoy calling them peds.
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« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2011, 01:01:08 pm »

On campus in Stillwater everybody stops for you on crosswalks.  You have to remember when you are in Tulsa because NOBODY stops.  Is actually is dangerous for both the driver and the person trying to cross the street.  People don't expect you to stop AND the pedestrian might think you are.  Or the person will go around you while driving, etc.
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« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2011, 01:40:55 pm »

If they don't even stop in the crosswalks in front of the courthouse, where cops drive past constantly and where the person they hit may be a lawyer, judge or just someone who likes to sue, it's pretty much a lost cause.
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« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2011, 02:26:55 pm »

I prefer to continue to at least try to educate the motoring public.  I don't expect that every person that experiences a ped in a marked crosswalk will stop but I have to imagine the signage will help somewhat.  If we dismiss the signage there's no way we put in traffic lights at all the crosswalks or condense ped traffic to one 'super-crossing' midway - so then what else.  And I'd prefer that we not publicly continue to give over our city entirely to the automobile. 
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« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2011, 09:36:54 pm »

I just got back from Pensacola Beach where it was only 85 degrees...Grin, and I have never seen any place where it is harder to cross the street. I would step out whenever there was a gap big enough for me to cross and would see cars speed up to try to beat me. Those drivers may or may not have heard the words I yelled at them. (no cussing though) There were so many idiots. I even saw a minivan get rearended while stopped at a crosswalk because of some idiot behind them not paying attention. It's amazing how some people even got their driver's license.

So do people just not know that you wait for pedestrians at crosswalks, not speed up, honk, and flip them off? Or do they choose to ignore it? Dangerous situations like these are what discourage people from walking more often. But on the plus side, I actually thought it made it more fun to cross the street, but I don't think it was for my four year old sister, or the hundreds of parents with small children.
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« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2011, 09:51:53 pm »

I just got back from Pensacola Beach where it was only 85 degrees...Grin,
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« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2011, 10:13:11 pm »

I just got back from Pensacola Beach where it was only 85 degrees...Grin, and I have never seen any place where it is harder to cross the street. I would step out whenever there was a gap big enough for me to cross and would see cars speed up to try to beat me. Those drivers may or may not have heard the words I yelled at them. (no cussing though) There were so many idiots. I even saw a minivan get rearended while stopped at a crosswalk because of some idiot behind them not paying attention. It's amazing how some people even got their driver's license.

So do people just not know that you wait for pedestrians at crosswalks, not speed up, honk, and flip them off? Or do they choose to ignore it? Dangerous situations like these are what discourage people from walking more often. But on the plus side, I actually thought it made it more fun to cross the street, but I don't think it was for my four year old sister, or the hundreds of parents with small children.

It's a Florida thing. In Ft Lauderdale when the light turns green the guy behind starts honking the instant it changes, even though you are waiting for the four cars that will run the red light on cross traffic are still blasting through the intersection.
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« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2011, 12:28:12 am »

It's a Florida thing. In Ft Lauderdale when the light turns green the guy behind starts honking the instant it changes, even though you are waiting for the four cars that will run the red light on cross traffic are still blasting through the intersection.

Sounds a little like Houston back when I lived there.
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« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2011, 02:23:53 pm »

The cross walk on 11th St. at TU between the Reynolds Center and Campus Grill is always difficult during basketball games and I've seen several people nearly get hit.  It's not uncommon to see a TPD cruiser blow right by without even slowing down.  With examples like that, no wonder the rest of the Tulsa population doesn't follow Oklahoma cross-walk law (same applies to changing lanes without signaling - I see TPD on the BA do that all the time).
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