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« Reply #405 on: April 05, 2019, 03:37:40 pm »

Who on earth has been saying that OKC is something to copy?  I usually look at them as examples of how NOT to do things. Most of what they have done is terrible, urban design wise.

Ironically, MidTown will be the best area in town, largely because it has been left alone.
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« Reply #406 on: April 14, 2019, 11:11:26 am »

Who on earth has been saying that OKC is something to copy?  I usually look at them as examples of how NOT to do things. Most of what they have done is terrible, urban design wise.


Not me!!   Ever!!

Exactly - they are the example of how not to.   And their canal is certainly nothing that we want to do...make it like so many cities in Europe.  There are a lot of good examples there that we can put our twist on and make it great for Tulsa.

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« Reply #407 on: April 15, 2019, 02:07:36 pm »


Not me!!   Ever!!

Exactly - they are the example of how not to.   And their canal is certainly nothing that we want to do...make it like so many cities in Europe.  There are a lot of good examples there that we can put our twist on and make it great for Tulsa.




I agree. Their canal is like the themepark version of San Antonio's canal, which is already the Vegas version of European canals.

It is basically a suburbanite family fun park, with no real walkability, much less actual functional layout that could serve a real community. It's purpose is to bring in bachelor parties and folks having a night out. It does that well, but we need to dream a little bigger to address urban sprawl while also creating an interesting urban destination. Even if I lived in apartments above Bricktown, I'd rarely if ever go to the kitcsh chains around there. I'd take their MidTown over that.
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« Reply #408 on: April 15, 2019, 08:48:11 pm »


I agree. Their canal is like the themepark version of San Antonio's canal, which is already the Vegas version of European canals.

It is basically a suburbanite family fun park, with no real walkability, much less actual functional layout that could serve a real community. It's purpose is to bring in bachelor parties and folks having a night out. It does that well, but we need to dream a little bigger to address urban sprawl while also creating an interesting urban destination. Even if I lived in apartments above Bricktown, I'd rarely if ever go to the kitcsh chains around there. I'd take their MidTown over that.


The times we have gone there, it was something we really wanted to like - love the idea of a canal - but it just wasn't all that great.    Even Chicago's river with it's lower level is more interesting...even if a lot more dangerous!

Side clarification moment;
I think my comment could have been taken way wrong - went back to read it and it sounded like I was saying OKC canals were like European - and that is directly opposite of what I meant!!   There are very good examples there to learn from and put our own interpretation onto.  There are sections of the Erie Canal that are very cool and would be good example, too!

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« Reply #409 on: April 16, 2019, 11:09:18 am »


I agree. Their canal is like the themepark version of San Antonio's canal, which is already the Vegas version of European canals.

It is basically a suburbanite family fun park, with no real walkability, much less actual functional layout that could serve a real community. It's purpose is to bring in bachelor parties and folks having a night out. It does that well, but we need to dream a little bigger to address urban sprawl while also creating an interesting urban destination. Even if I lived in apartments above Bricktown, I'd rarely if ever go to the kitcsh chains around there. I'd take their MidTown over that.

OKC is the poster-child of sprawl.
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« Reply #410 on: April 16, 2019, 12:33:50 pm »

OKC is the poster-child of sprawl.

It is larger than Houston in area, but 1/4 (or less) of its population.
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« Reply #411 on: April 16, 2019, 05:56:14 pm »

It is larger than Houston in area, but 1/4 (or less) of its population.

Being I lived in Houston for about 4 years, this is true.  Dense and a lot of sprawl.
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« Reply #412 on: April 18, 2019, 08:33:29 pm »

OKC is the poster-child of sprawl.


NE city limit is at mile 147 on the turnpike.  Past Luther.   Almost to Wellston...few miles away.   

What an ignorant thing to do...they should pull that nonsense back and let the towns out there develop.  Wellston area is growing very fast - could be another Bixby.  Or Glenpool.



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