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« Reply #75 on: August 18, 2011, 07:49:35 pm »

And you think Wes Watkins couldn't make sure that blood test was positive??  Ahhh...what wonderful things those rose colored glasses are...

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« Reply #76 on: August 24, 2011, 12:04:35 pm »

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7FshBjkS6U&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

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« Reply #77 on: August 24, 2011, 12:19:15 pm »

So much for reality. 

In addition to the tens of billions the Fed would save, state and local guvermints would benefit, too.  But then, that would hurt the economy, wouldn't it??  All that reduced spending staying in the bank accounts of taxpayers...



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« Reply #78 on: August 24, 2011, 02:08:22 pm »

http://www.urbantulsa.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A42000

I was just reading this over lunch. According to Arnold Hamilton, it will cost over $50mm for Oklahoma to house 48 people imprisoned with no-parole life sentences on drug charges.

I really don't have a problem incarcerating someone at the head of a cartel, like George Jung, for life but bit players shouldn't be getting terminal sentences.  People imprisoned ONLY for use don't belong in a prison unless that was a related charge to another felony.
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« Reply #79 on: August 25, 2011, 11:18:54 am »

Happened to drive by Wes Watkins lake the other day in my travels.   How about that?  His own lake!!!  Kewl!!


Just what I have ranted about since 1965.  We keep doing the same thing - for the last 100 years!! - and expect different results.  That is insanity!  (Insanity - see "voting for Jim Inhofe" in the dictionary.)

Plus, it prevents us from ever becoming energy independent and self-sufficient.  Just another key part of the Big Plan by the PuppetMasters.

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« Reply #80 on: September 03, 2011, 12:32:33 am »

http://www.urbantulsa.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A42000

I was just reading this over lunch. According to Arnold Hamilton, it will cost over $50mm for Oklahoma to house 48 people imprisoned with no-parole life sentences on drug charges.

I really don't have a problem incarcerating someone at the head of a cartel, like George Jung, for life but bit players shouldn't be getting terminal sentences.  People imprisoned ONLY for use don't belong in a prison unless that was a related charge to another felony.

It would be interesting to see that if those 48 people were going to be released how many people would write to the governor to protest over it.  My guess, very few.
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« Reply #81 on: September 03, 2011, 01:35:52 am »

It would be interesting to see that if those 48 people were going to be released how many people would write to the governor to protest over it.  My guess, very few.

Don't underestimate Oklahomans...  Wink
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« Reply #82 on: September 15, 2011, 09:42:26 am »

I saw a commercial this morning talking about the futility of spending so much money on new prisons and not enough on education in OK.

Anyone know who's running them?  I was in and out of consciousness on the treadmill.
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« Reply #83 on: August 03, 2012, 07:51:53 am »


Immigrants prove big business for prison companies


http://news.yahoo.com/immigrants-prove-big-business-prison-companies-084353195.html

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MIAMI (AP) — The U.S. is locking up more illegal immigrants than ever, generating lucrative profits for the nation's largest prison companies, and an Associated Press review shows the businesses have spent tens of millions of dollars lobbying lawmakers and contributing to campaigns.

The cost to American taxpayers is on track to top $2 billion for this year, and the companies are expecting their biggest cut of that yet in the next few years thanks to government plans for new facilities to house the 400,000 immigrants detained annually.

After a decade of expansion, the sprawling, private system runs detention centers everywhere from a Denver suburb to an industrial area flanking Newark's airport, and is largely controlled by just three companies.

The growth is far from over, despite the sheer drop in illegal immigration in recent years.

In 2011, nearly half the beds in the nation's civil detention system were in private facilities with little federal oversight, up from just 10 percent a decade ago.

The companies also have raked in cash from subsidiaries that provide health care and transportation. And they are holding more immigrants convicted of federal crimes in their privately-run prisons.

The financial boom, which has helped save some of these companies from the brink of bankruptcy, has occurred even though federal officials acknowledge privatization isn't necessarily cheaper.

This seismic shift toward a privatized system happened quietly. While Congress' unsuccessful efforts to overhaul immigration laws drew headlines and sparked massive demonstrations, lawmakers' negotiations to boost detention dollars received far less attention.

The industry's giants — Corrections Corporation of America, The GEO Group, and Management and Training Corp. — have spent at least $45 million combined on campaign donations and lobbyists at the state and federal level in the last decade, the AP found.

CCA and GEO, who manage most private detention centers, insist they aren't trying to influence immigration policy to make more money, and their lobbying and campaign donations have been legal.

"As a matter of long-standing corporate policy, CCA does not lobby on issues that would determine the basis for an individual's detention or incarceration," CCA spokesman Steve Owen said in an email to the AP. The company has a website dedicated to debunking such allegations.

GEO, which was part of The Wackenhut Corp. security firm until 2003, and Management and Training Corp. declined repeated interview requests.

Advocates for immigrants are skeptical of claims that the lobbying is not meant to influence policy.

"That's a lot of money to listen quietly," said Peter Cervantes-Gautschi, who has helped lead a campaign to encourage large banks and mutual funds to divest from the prison companies.

The detention centers are located in cities and remote areas alike, often in low-slung buildings surrounded by chain-link fences and razor wire. U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement agents detain men, women and children suspected of violating civil immigration laws at these facilities. Most of those held at the 250 sites nationwide are illegal immigrants awaiting deportation, but some green card holders, asylum seekers and others are also there.

The total average nightly cost to taxpayers to detain an illegal immigrant, including health care and guards' salaries, is about $166, ICE confirmed only after the AP calculated that figure and presented it to the agency.

That's up from $80 in 2004. ICE said the $80 didn't include all of the same costs but declined to provide details.

Pedro Guzman is among those who have passed through the private detention centers. He was brought to the U.S. by his Guatemalan mother at age 8. He was working and living here legally under temporary protected status but was detained after missing an appearance for an asylum application his mother had filed for him. Officials ordered him deported.

Although he was married to a U.S. citizen, ICE considered him a flight risk and locked him up in 2009: first at a private detention facility run by CCA in Gainesville, Ga., and eventually at CCA's Stewart Detention Center, south of Atlanta. Guzman spent 19 months in Stewart until he was finally granted legal permanent residency.

"It's a millionaire's business, and they are living off profits from each one of the people who go through there every single night," said Guzman, now a cable installer in Durham, N.C. "It's our money that we earn as taxpayers every day that goes to finance this."

The federal government stepped up detentions of illegal immigrants in the 1990s, as the number of people crossing the border soared. In 1996, Congress passed a law requiring many more illegal immigrants be locked up. But it wasn't until 2005 — as the corrections companies' lobbying efforts reached their zenith — that ICE got a major boost. Between 2005 and 2007, the agency's budget jumped from $3.5 billion to $4.7 billion, adding more than $5 million for custody operations.

Dora Schriro, who in 2009 reviewed the nation's detention system at the request of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, said nearly every aspect had been outsourced.

"ICE was always relying on others for responsibilities that are fundamentally those of the government," said Schriro, now the New York City Correction Commissioner. "If you don't have the competency to know what is a fair price to ask and negotiate the most favorable rates for the best service, then the likelihood that you are going to overspend is greater."

Private companies argue they can save Americans money by running the centers more cheaply.

Pablo Paez, a spokesman for Boca Raton, Fla.-based GEO, said in an email his company supports public-private partnerships which "have been demonstrated to achieve significant cost savings for the taxpayers." He declined to answer specific questions.

But ICE Executive Associate Director for Enforcement and Removal Operations Gary Mead said the government has never studied whether privatizing immigrant detention saves money.

"They are not our most expensive, they are not our cheapest" facilities, he said. "At some point cost cannot be the only factor."

One fundamental difference between private detention facilities and their publicly-run counterparts is transparency. The private ones don't have to follow the same public records and access requirements.

President Barack Obama has asked for less detention money this year and encouraged the agency to look at alternatives to locking people up. He also ordered DHS to stop deporting young immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally, which could reduce the number behind bars. Congress, however, can approve more detention spending than DHS requests.

Beyond civil detention centers, private companies are also making more money locking up non-citizens who commit federal crimes.

To deter illegal border crossers, federal prosecutors are increasingly charging immigrants with felonies for repeatedly entering the country without papers. That has led thousands of people convicted of illegal re-entry, as well as more serious federal offenses, to serve time in private prisons built just for them.

A decade ago, more than 3,300 criminal immigrants were sent to private prisons under two 10-year contracts the Federal Bureau of Prisons signed with CCA worth $760 million. Now, the agency is paying the private companies $5.1 billion to hold more than 23,000 criminal immigrants through 13 contracts of varying lengths.

CCA was on the verge of bankruptcy in 2000 due to lawsuits, management problems and dwindling contracts. Last year, the company reaped $162 million in net income. Federal contracts made up 43 percent of its total revenues, in part thanks to rising immigrant detention.

GEO, which cites the immigration agency as its largest client, saw its net income jump from $16.9 million to $78.6 million since 2000.

"Another factor driving growth ... for the private sector is in the area of immigration and illegal immigration specifically," Chief Financial Officer Brian Evans told investors in GEO's 2011 3rd quarter earnings call.

CCA warned in its 2011 annual earnings report that federal policy changes in "illegal immigration could affect the number of persons arrested, convicted, and sentenced, thereby potentially reducing demand for correctional facilities to house them."

Utah-based Management and Training is not publicly held, so it does not post earnings.

At just the federal level, these companies, their political action committees and their employees have spent more than $32 million on lobbying and on campaign contributions since 2000 — with the national political parties getting the largest campaign contributions.

An AP review of Federal Election Commission data found the prison companies and their employees gave to key congressional leaders who control how much money goes to run the nation's detention centers and who influence how many contracts go to the private sector.

James Thurber, head of American University's Center for Congressional & Presidential Studies, said amid the heated national debate over immigration, the companies have been savvy not to donate heavily to those sponsoring legislation, which could spark backlash.

There are more discrete and more powerful ways to influence policy, Thurber said.

"Follow the money," he said. "If the money is being increased significantly for illegal immigration, then that is a shift in policy ... a significant shift."

The top beneficiaries of the campaign contributions include:

— The Republican Party. Its national and congressional committees received around $450,000. Democrats received less than half that.

— Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain. He received $71,000, mostly during his failed presidential bid against Obama, well after he dropped support for a bill that would have given illegal immigrants a path to citizenship and reduced detentions.

— House Speaker John Boehner received $63,000.

—Kentucky U.S. Rep. Hal Rogers received about $59,000. Rogers chaired the first subcommittee on Homeland Security and heads the powerful House Appropriations Committee. He often criticizes ICE for not filling more detention beds.

— Former U.S. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist. He received $58,500. The lawmaker from Tennessee, where CCA is headquartered, led the Senate at the height of the nation's immigrant detention build up from 2003 to 2007.

More than campaign contributions, though, the private prison companies spent most of their money each year on lobbying in Washington, peaking in 2005 when they spent $5 million.

In just 2011, CCA paid the Washington firm Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld $280,000 in part to "monitor immigration reform," federal reports show.

They also lobbied heavily against a bill that would force them to comply with the same open records requirements governing public facilities.

Owen, the CCA spokesman, said the company ramped up lobbying to acquaint new lawmakers with the industry.

"In recent years, federal elections have been very volatile, resulting in a lot of new faces in Washington," he said. "The result of that volatility means a lot of people at the federal level who may not be familiar with the work we do."

The prison companies' influence at the state level mirrors that in Washington, although the money is even harder to track since many states, such as Arizona and Illinois, where the companies have won lucrative detention contracts, don't require corporations to disclose what they pay lobbyists.

The AP reviewed campaign contribution data from the three companies' political action committees and their employees over the last decade, compiled by the National Institute on Money in State Politics. From 2003 to the first half of 2012, state candidates and political parties in the 50 states received more than $5.32 million.

In the 10 states where the companies' committees and employees contributed the most, the AP found they also spent at least $8 million more lobbying local officials in the last five years alone. It is impossible to know how much of this lobbying money was aimed only at immigrant-related contracts. But that money generally went to states along the border, such as Florida and Texas, which have high numbers of immigrants, as well as states such as Georgia and Louisiana, where large numbers of immigrants also are detained.

ICE has begun providing more oversight as part of the Obama administration's pledge to overhaul the nation's system for jailing immigration offenders. It recently scrapped plans for CCA to build a 1,500-bed immigrant detention center in a high-end Miami suburb following months of local protests.

But it remains committed to adding more private beds. Plans are on track to build or expand private immigration jails in Newark, N.J., in the suburbs of Chicago and along a lonely stretch of California's Mojave Desert
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« Reply #84 on: August 03, 2012, 11:29:44 am »

Today the seem less interested in building new prisons as much as taking over existing ones:


As state governments wrestle with massive budget shortfalls, a Wall Street giant is offering a solution: cash in exchange for state property. Prisons, to be exact.

Corrections Corporation of America, the nation's largest operator of for-profit prisons, has sent letters recently to 48 states offering to buy up their prisons as a remedy for "challenging corrections budgets." In exchange, the company is asking for a 20-year management contract, plus an assurance that the prison would remain at least 90 percent full, according to a copy of the letter obtained by The Huffington Post.

The move reflects a significant shift in strategy for the private prison industry, which until now has expanded by building prisons of its own or managing state-controlled prisons. It also represents an unprecedented bid for more control of state prison systems.

Corrections Corporation has been a swiftly growing business, with revenues expanding more than fivefold since the mid-1990s. The company capitalized on the expansion of state prison systems in the '80s and '90s at the height of the so-called 'war on drugs,' contracting with state governments to build or manage new prisons to house an influx of drug offenders. During the past 10 years, it has found new opportunity in the business of locking up undocumented immigrants, as the federal government has contracted with private companies in an aggressive immigrant-detention campaign.


...who then charge $5 per minute for phone calls (and people wonder why guards are so eager to smuggle in cell phones).
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/17/prisoners-in-private-georgia-prison_n_1099669.html

But judges are OK with this, as long as they get their kickback:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/private-prison-companies-making-big-bucks-locking-undocumented-immigrants-article-1.1127465
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« Reply #85 on: August 03, 2012, 11:35:37 am »

I normally dismiss many of your posts as paranoid, but this particular part of the offer is troubling:

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« Reply #86 on: August 03, 2012, 11:40:14 am »

That has been the business plan all along.  How come it has taken this long to be troubling??

This is why we HAVE a war on drugs - so government can get its bureaucracy (prisons/law enforcement/judicial in this case) to survive and grow.  Plus it don't hurt they can throw a bone to DuPont and Hearst (in the case of marijuana).  The two main goals of every living entity - survive:grow.

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« Reply #87 on: December 03, 2012, 12:13:29 pm »

Oklahoma prison system out of beds for female offenders

http://okpolicy.org/in-the-know-oklahoma-prison-system-out-of-beds-for-female-offenders

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The Oklahoma Department of Corrections is out of beds for female offenders, DOC Director Justin Jones said Friday. His comments came following a Board of Corrections discussion of the overall prison system population during a monthly meeting in Vinita. Mabel Bassett Correctional Center in McLoud, Eddie Warrior Correctional Center in Taft and Hillside Community Corrections Center in Oklahoma City are pretty much at capacity, Jones said. All three house female offenders. ”The key is we are already full,” Jones said. “We had been experiencing a downward trend and all of a sudden we are heading back up. That is the key.”

Time to start looking at those non-violent offenders?  Maybe a non-incarcerations form of corrections?

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« Reply #88 on: December 10, 2012, 10:25:12 am »

Prison officials ask for additional $6.4 million

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TULSA, Okla. (AP) — Oklahoma prison officials are asking for $6.4 million in additional funding as the state's prisons near capacity.

Officials say the supplemental funding request is needed to pay for expenses that include the increased use of private prisons and halfway houses.

The state Department of Corrections reports that in October there were almost 800 more inmates than in October 2011. DOC Director Justin Jones told the Tulsa World that state prisons are consistently at 96 to 98 percent capacity — meaning any increase pushes the system to being nearly full.

Oklahoma also has nearly 1,700 convicts in county jails awaiting transportation to the state Department of Corrections when beds become available.
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« Reply #89 on: December 10, 2012, 10:37:26 am »

Oklahoma also has nearly 1,700 convicts in county jails awaiting transportation to the state Department of Corrections when beds become available.

Maintaining people sitting out fines and traffic tickets alongside killers and rapists.
That sounds like a plan, Oklahoma.

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