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« Reply #420 on: December 11, 2012, 09:03:15 am » |
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Particularly, until we have an ability to maintain them? Only thing worse than seeing expensive trees planted downtown and then dying within a year due to lack of water is the tree being cut down and weeds filling the former tree bed. The urban environment is very tough on trees and they must be maintained otherwise it looks worse than not having trees.
Have the guy going around looking at all the inoperable parking machines drive around with a water truck. At least he'd be productive. |
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« Reply #421 on: December 11, 2012, 12:50:33 pm » |
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Just don't carve out chunks of the sidewalk to plant trees. The sidewalks are already narrow enough, and closed/blocked with way too much regularity.
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« Reply #422 on: December 11, 2012, 02:29:45 pm » |
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It's not so much that they are "offering" ground level retail, it's that they don't have any "street front" pedestrian friendly retail space.
One can rightly say the building is ugly. But imo, there is a factor in building design that is more important than what the building looks like above street level and that is, what the building looks like AT street level, and how it functions AT street level. Both of these buildings not only ignore the pedestrian but act against the pedestrian and the Tulsa communities desires and efforts to make the city more pedestrian and transit friendly. I still hope that the next phases of the development are better in this respect for those street fronts are more important.
You say it's the cities responsibility to put trees in an urban area like this, who, do you believe, is responsible for ensuring that we have streets/sidewalks in an urban area that are pedestrian friendly, and thus transit that can work efficiently and affordably?
When nobody wants to walk down a sidewalk, any transit you wan't to have in the area will not work efficiently and affordably.
If your a developer or business, or city/community, that wants to have urban, street front retail and a different developer comes in and builds something that hurts or negates those other developers, businesses etc. efforts and plans... who is to blame?
+1 Sadly, the later phases are slated to bring more of the same, at least according to their current renderings. |
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« Reply #423 on: December 12, 2012, 01:58:35 pm » |
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« Reply #424 on: December 12, 2012, 02:05:37 pm » |
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These are the first five of the donated 190 to be planted this year. These particular trees were being grown in a tree farm around 96th and Garnett and were donated by the Warren Foundation. They are much taller than the trees Up with Trees usually plants.
Downtown trees can be sponsored and commermorative plaques will be put in nearby to thank the donor. If I had any extra money, I would sponsor a tree or two downtown.
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« Reply #425 on: December 12, 2012, 02:14:51 pm » |
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These are the first five of the donated 190 to be planted this year. These particular trees were being grown in a tree farm around 96th and Garnett and were donated by the Warren Foundation. They are much taller than the trees Up with Trees usually plants.
Downtown trees can be sponsored and commermorative plaques will be put in nearby to thank the donor. If I had any extra money, I would sponsor a tree or two downtown.
do you have, or could you direct me to more information about this? i looked at the up with trees website, but didn't find any detailed information. thanks! |
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« Reply #426 on: December 12, 2012, 02:21:12 pm » |
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I talked to the Up with Trees Executive Director (I know her) and she said she will make sure and put the downtown tree adoption info on the website front page right away.
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« Reply #427 on: December 12, 2012, 02:26:27 pm » |
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I talked to the Up with Trees Executive Director (I know her) and she said she will make sure and put the downtown tree adoption info on the website front page right away.
I heard a rumor you might more than just "know" her. |
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« Reply #428 on: December 12, 2012, 02:33:46 pm » |
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I heard a rumor you might more than just "know" her.
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« Reply #429 on: December 13, 2012, 08:02:04 am » |
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I heard a rumor you might more than just "know" her.
Perhaps "know" in the Biblical sense?  Is there a list of tree types that are and are not allowed to be planted in those spots downtown? |
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« Reply #430 on: December 13, 2012, 08:31:04 am » |
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The list changes from year to year. Last year's drought took a bunch of trees off the list.
Is there a particular tree that you are interested in? I keep a tree book in my car if you know the look but not the name.
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« Reply #431 on: December 13, 2012, 11:31:11 am » |
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The list changes from year to year. Last year's drought took a bunch of trees off the list.
Is there a particular tree that you are interested in? I keep a tree book in my car if you know the look but not the name.
There is a spot in front of my new shop where tree might have been and I would like to put something there, but not same ol same ol. I was thinking of a mimosa. I know a lot of old timers don't like them, but I think they have a nice shape and look to them. Beats the heck out of a Bradford Pear and they seem to do quite well in our area. I think they would create a nice, unique look in some of the street medians or sidewalks where a medium sized tree would work because of the way the branches would flow up and outwards over the street and sidewalks. |
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« Reply #432 on: December 13, 2012, 11:59:35 am » |
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There is a spot in front of my new shop where tree might have been and I would like to put something there, but not same ol same ol. I was thinking of a mimosa. I know a lot of old timers don't like them, but I think they have a nice shape and look to them. Beats the heck out of a Bradford Pear and they seem to do quite well in our area. I think they would create a nice, unique look in some of the street medians or sidewalks where a medium sized tree would work because of the way the branches would flow up and outwards over the street and sidewalks.
If you can go that route, look into the viability of a chocolate mimosa if you like the looks of them. It'd be the unique that you mentioned.  Mimosas tend to be the trees I cut down as a weed but I agree, it would definitely stand out downtown. |
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« Reply #433 on: December 13, 2012, 12:02:23 pm » |
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I have a Mimosa I need to dig out before it gets too much more mature. Artist, are you interested?
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« Reply #434 on: December 13, 2012, 12:03:02 pm » |
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There is a spot in front of my new shop where tree might have been and I would like to put something there, but not same ol same ol. I was thinking of a mimosa. I know a lot of old timers don't like them, but I think they have a nice shape and look to them. Beats the heck out of a Bradford Pear and they seem to do quite well in our area. I think they would create a nice, unique look in some of the street medians or sidewalks where a medium sized tree would work because of the way the branches would flow up and outwards over the street and sidewalks.
I remember them as being a messy tree regarding their seed pods, almost as bad as a sweet gum but not hazardous to your feet. |
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