How to Protect Yourself From Obamacare

[Conan71]

Energy drink?

[Red Arrow]

So much more than an energy drink.  It gets idiots promoted. 

Gimme some, quick!

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3 bottles at home in the frige.

[Conan71]

3 bottles at home in the frige.

One left *sniffle*

[guido911]

I have always been a bit leery of the legitimacy of these type of "letters", but here is one purportedly from a doctor to her patients after the passage of HCR:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZjY3ZTg2ODNhYTg4ZDUyNjlmNTBmYWI0YmY2YTQ0YTI=

[fotd]

I have always been a bit leery of the legitimacy of these type of "letters", but here is one purportedly from a doctor to her patients after the passage of HCR:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZjY3ZTg2ODNhYTg4ZDUyNjlmNTBmYWI0YmY2YTQ0YTI=

It's all the rave with those that have the means to pay for specialized care!

Doctors on retainers available 24/7 for those with the ability to go around the insurers....

[guido911]

It's all the rave with those that have the means to pay for specialized care!

Doctors on retainers available 24/7 for those with the ability to go around the insurers....

First of all, that doctor was in family practice, hardly "specialized care." Second, so what if people with the means to have a doctor on "retainers" do so? Jealous? If a doctor wants to parlay his decision to invest 8 years of post high school education and 4 years of internship/residency to provide medical services on his/her terms, is that not their right to do so?

[fotd]

First of all, that doctor was in family practice, hardly "specialized care." Second, so what if people with the means to have a doctor on "retainers" do so? Jealous? If a doctor wants to parlay his decision to invest 8 years of post high school education and 4 years of internship/residency to provide medical services on his/her terms, is that not their right to do so?

I like the idea of specialized care. That's the expansion of the term.

Now. Under socialism, wouldn't this be prohibited?

[Conan71]

I like the idea of specialized care. That's the expansion of the term.

Now. Under socialism, wouldn't this be prohibited?

Specialized care is a good.  But that also helped expand the cost of health care over the last two decades with all the new specialty clinics and hospitals which sprang up. That's added a lot of overhead to the cost of health care. Look at all the specialty hospitals which cropped up in Tulsa alone the last 20 years. I'm not saying they don't add a valuable service, they do. However, medical facilities are incredibly expensive to operate.  As well, they have added some confusion when it comes to insurance benefits and I know of people who have been hosed by "steering" to facilities by doctors who are part owners.

[fotd]

Specialized care is a good.  But that also helped expand the cost of health care over the last two decades with all the new specialty clinics and hospitals which sprang up. That's added a lot of overhead to the cost of health care. Look at all the specialty hospitals which cropped up in Tulsa alone the last 20 years. I'm not saying they don't add a valuable service, they do. However, medical facilities are incredibly expensive to operate.  As well, they have added some confusion when it comes to insurance benefits and I know of people who have been hosed by "steering" to facilities by doctors who are part owners.

Yes, good capitalists. Bad, putting their oath in back of their pocket book.

Now, this all came about because of Nixon....he allowed the docs to incorporate and Big Pharma to advertise.

[guido911]

Yes, good capitalists. Bad, putting their oath in back of their pocket book.

Now, this all came about because of Nixon....he allowed the docs to incorporate and Big Pharma to advertise.

What oath are you referring to?   

[nathanm]

I have always been a bit leery of the legitimacy of these type of "letters", but here is one purportedly from a doctor to her patients after the passage of HCR:

It goes to show that it's possible for even a doctor with their own practice to know absolutely nothing about health care administration. Perhaps she hadn't noticed (I forgive her, the bill is long and there are but a few summaries available), but insurance companies will be no less capable of selling any health plan they desire, even after 2014. They just don't get to sell it on the exchange if it doesn't meet the minimum standards.

[nathanm]

FYI Caterpillar is saying this legislation will increase their payroll costs by $100mm per year. Mexico & China are going to love this bill.

Now that I know what you're talking about:

Yes, the government is in fact no longer going to both subsidize retiree prescription drug benefits and let companies take a tax deduction for the part of the expense the government paid for.

[we vs us]

Now that I know what you're talking about:

Yes, the government is in fact no longer going to both subsidize retiree prescription drug benefits and let companies take a tax deduction for the part of the expense the government paid for.

Whilst in the dentist's office today, I got a chance to read the whole article in the WSJ and it turns out that 1) the tax liability is a one-time fee; 2) the tax credit has been on the books only since 2006, when Bush II passed his --unfunded! -- Medicare Part B legislation 3) none of the companies in question would verify the accounting and outside numbers suggest the liability is much lower. 

So in other words, good news!  An unfunded corporate tax loophole has been closed!  Yay for government budget-balancing! 

Right, deficit hawks?

[fotd]

It will take 5 years before the impact and cost/benefit can be defined.

So, take a break....