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« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2010, 09:47:37 am » |
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Sorry. . .Washington Examiner
But it's everywhere else too. Just google 16500 IRS jobs :0
So I googled it: washington examiner directblue fox business conservative american news are the top sites. I'll keep looking |
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« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2010, 09:53:58 am » |
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So I googled it:
washington examiner
directblue
fox business
conservative american news
are the top sites.
I'll keep looking
I haven't found a legit source, either ... doesn't mean it doesn't exist. But the sources of the story so far are suspicious. If Politico got snookered, the Examiner and bloggers could have, also. |
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« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2010, 10:12:59 am » |
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Found the source of the story, although it is couched in a lot of assumptions and is decidedly much less declarative than Gaspar's post: "Although it is impossible to know exactly how many new employees the IRS would have to hire to enforce the individual mandate and other provisions of the Democrats’ health care bill, the IRS’s own data, plus reasonable assumptions about costs and program responsibilities as described below, suggest that the number of additional examiners, agents, and other employees could reach 16,500." (my italics) The report also was written by the minority members of the House Ways and Means Committee, aka Republicans, so a ton of bias is contained there ... much more than a CBO report, for instance. So you have that working against it, too. http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/tx08_brady/irs_power_report.pdf |
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« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2010, 10:25:47 am » |
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That's a conservative paper.
Finding an un-biased view of all this is nearly impossible.
Hannity has said as much, he's not a GOP house organ or anything...  |
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« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2010, 11:20:11 am » |
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I read it was a range from 11,000 - 16,500.
Adding a new function to the IRS is like adding one extra number to powerball, the growth is exponential.
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« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2010, 11:24:58 am » |
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Does anyone actually doubt that $900 billion dollars in regulation, to be policed by the IRS, will create new jobs in the IRS? I'm willing to bet it's a lot more than 16,500 new jobs.  I thought new jobs was good news? Are people actually angry about the creation new jobs? " Bong and a blintz? No? Then there is no pleasing you."  |
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« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2010, 11:56:37 am » |
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The report also was written by ... Republicans, so
it cannot possibly have a shred of truth in it. I might as well get in step with the wave of future politics.  |
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« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2010, 11:58:31 am » |
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I'm willing to bet it's a lot more than 16,500 new jobs. I thought new jobs was good news? Are people actually angry about the creation new jobs? See my remarks about Jimmy Carter's campaign platform on new federal jobs. |
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« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2010, 12:07:11 pm » |
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it cannot possibly have a shred of truth in it. I might as well get in step with the wave of future politics. Of course not. The administration of health benefits for 300 million people and the continual audit of 788,000 physicians and 595,800 medical establishments employing millions of nurses, technologies, and staff will not require any additional staffing within the IRS. They could probably just get by on some part time summer help. |
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« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2010, 12:22:21 pm » |
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Of course not. The administration of health benefits for 300 million people and the continual audit of 788,000 physicians and 595,800 medical establishments employing millions of nurses, technologies, and staff will not require any additional staffing within the IRS.
They could probably just get by on some part time summer help.
The truth is more like they will employ an additional 16,500 full time people but they will treat us just like they came out of the summer temp pool |
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« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2010, 01:09:09 pm » |
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Of course, you guys said nothing when President Bush created 50,000 Transportation Safety jobs at airports.
Oh, the hypocrisy!
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« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2010, 01:11:14 pm » |
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Of course, you guys said nothing when President Bush created 50,000 Transportation Safety jobs at airports.
Oh, the hypocrisy!
It's different when we do it! |
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« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2010, 01:23:27 pm » |
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Of course, you guys said nothing when President Bush created 50,000 Transportation Safety jobs at airports.
Oh, the hypocrisy!
Hey, I say something any time anyone creates more government. We needed a better TSA not a bigger TSA. Another example of how we continuously fail to learn what increasing the size of government does to us. We can now get through the airport with SOOOO much more efficiency. Can't wait to go to the emergency room in 2018. Probably have to pre-plan our car accidents, and limit our pints of blood to one. |
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« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2010, 03:02:43 pm » |
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That's a conservative paper.
Finding an un-biased view of all this is nearly impossible.
I agree, they need an unbiased Cliff Notes version for those of us sane enough not to listen to the fear mongering far-right or drink the Kool Aid of the far-left.. |
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« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2010, 03:52:22 pm » |
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Looks like the state legislature approved the Oklahoma Obamacare opt-out today. It will go to a vote of the people in November.
I know it may be a waste but 59% of the public (according to CNN today) and 37 State governments on the record, is a pretty strong case for repeal.
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