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« on: June 29, 2009, 10:30:39 pm »

Sally Kern is back in national news for her "Oklahoma Citizen's Proclamation For Morality", which can be found at http://www.news9.com/global/story.asp?s=10597685 and reads as follows:

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We the People of Oklahoma, Invoking the guidance of Almighty God, in order to secure and perpetuate the blessing of Liberty; to secure just and rightful Government; to promote our mutual Welfare and Happiness, do establish this proclamation and call upon the people of the great State of Oklahoma, and our fellow Patriots in these United States of America who look to the Lord for guidance, to acknowledge the need for a national awakening of righteousness in our land.

WHEREAS, “It is Religion and Morality alone, which can establish the Principles upon which Freedom can securely stand” (John Adams); and

WHEREAS, “We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by Religion and Morality” (John Adams); and

WHEREAS, “Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people” (John Adams); and

WHEREAS, “We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government…but upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God” (James Madison); and

WHEREAS, “Freedom is not a gift bestowed upon us by other men, but a right that belongs to us by the laws of God (Benjamin Franklin); and

WHEREAS, “God who gave us life gave us liberty and can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God” (Thomas Jefferson); and

WHEREAS, “Whether any free government can be permanent, where the public worship of God, and the support of Religion, constitute no part of the policy or duty of the state” (Joseph Story); and

WHEREAS, “We hold sacred the rights of conscience, and promise to the people…the free and undisturbed exercise of their religion” (Roger Sherman); and

WHEREAS, “This great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians” (Patrick Henry); and

WHEREAS, “When you…exercise the right of voting for public officers, let it be impressed upon your mind that God commands you to choose just men who will rule in the fear of God” (Noah Webster); and

WHEREAS, “The principles of genuine Liberty and of wise laws and administrations are to be drawn from the Bible” (Noah Webster); and

WHEREAS, the people of Oklahoma have a strong tradition of reliance upon the Creator of the Universe; and

WHEREAS, we believe our economic woes are consequences of our greater national moral crisis; and

WHEREAS, this nation has become a world leader in promoting abortion, pornography, same sex marriage, sex trafficking, divorce, illegitimate births, child abuse, and many other forms of debauchery; and

WHEREAS, alarmed that the Government of the United States of America is forsaking the rich Christian heritage upon which this nation was built; and

WHEREAS, grieved that the Office of the president of these United States has refused to uphold the long held tradition of past presidents in giving recognition to our National Day of Prayer; and

WHEREAS, deeply disturbed that the Office of the president of these United States disregards the biblical admonitions to live clean and pure lives by proclaiming an entire month to an immoral behavior;

NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that we the undersigned elected officials of the people of Oklahoma, religious leaders and citizens of the State of Oklahoma, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world, solemnly declare that the HOPE of the great State of Oklahoma and of these United States, rests upon the Principles of Religion and Morality as put forth in the HOLY BIBLE; and

BE IT RESOLVED that we, the undersigned, believers in the One True God and His only Son, call upon all to join with us in recognizing that “Blessed is the Nation whose God is the Lord,” and humbly implore all who love Truth and Virtue to live above reproach in the sight of God and man with a firm reliance on the leadership and protection of Almighty God; and

BE IT RESOLVED that we, the undersigned, humbly call upon Holy God, our Creator, Sustainer, and Redeemer, to have mercy on this nation, to stay His hand of judgment, and grant a national awakening of righteousness and Christian renewal as we repent of our great sin.

Signed on the second day of July in the year of our Lord Christ Two Thousand and Nine.

This is supposed to be signed next week at the state capitol, but what does that actually mean? Is she attempting to make this the state's "official position"? And why is she spending time to pen this proclamation when there are larger issues at hand...?
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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2009, 10:47:31 pm »

Hmm. I'm thinking they are asking for a stay on the rapture maybe. Some sort of pact to keep God from acting out on us.  He's really pissed off, you know.  Just ask Sally.
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2009, 11:03:50 pm »

Ahh yes...  
Cherry pick some quotes.   Suprised she threw Jefferson in there.  I enjoy the national day of prayer bit thrown in.  I am glad that the founding fathers decided that was needed.  I also didn't know that there was a big event every year at the White House.
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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2009, 06:24:29 am »

She's challenging Inhofe for most embarrassing Okie status. Dang close too.
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2009, 07:27:01 am »

This is my favorite line, "WHEREAS, this nation has become a world leader in promoting abortion, pornography, same sex marriage, sex trafficking, divorce, illegitimate births, child abuse, and many other forms of debauchery; and"...

A world leader in debauchery? Wow.

Sounds like those high draft picks are beginning to pay off.
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2009, 07:27:57 am »

<--- Not Christian.

Seems that proclamation does all it can to leave me out.  I do not believe the BIBLE to be HOLY.  I do not believe one should have to fear their God(s).  I do not believe morality is inextricably tied to religion.  I do not believe God commands politicians to do anything.  I do not  believe it is a great travesty to "disregard[] the biblical admonitions to live clean and pure lives."  Furthermore, I do not believe that the hope for Oklahoma lies with more of her ilk.  

Frankly, I'm confident that if she had her way she would destroy Oklahoma in the eye of the nation, most of the world, and for over 50% of Oklahomans.  Not too mention economically and from a perspective of liberty.  She's perfectly free to have whatever opinion she likes and I'm glad she makes it so clear.   But if adopted as the official position of the State of Oklahoma there is a very serious issue.

I thought I was doing OK for the State by moving 2 married college graduates here to hold professional jobs.  Having a son who is well taken care of.  Never getting in trouble with the law (not even a speeding ticket).  Contribute much money to the local economy, to the arts, and to education.  I'm not even gay, I don't have or help abortions . . . shouldn't I be on her good person list?  Wait, not Christian = Not Welcome to Sally Kerns Oklahoma.  How very Christian of her.

Nonetheless, the list of "religious" founding fathers she compiles is hilarious.  Particularly Thomas Jefferson (he has "AUTHOR OF THE STATUTE OF VIRGINIA FOR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM" [all caps original] on his tombstone) and Ben Franklin (not a Christian).  

I'm particularly interested to learn that the economic meltdown is because Jesus is mad at us.  This should set things straight again.

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BE IT RESOLVED that we, the undersigned, believers in the One True God and His only Son, call upon all to join with us in recognizing that “Blessed is the Nation whose God is the Lord,” and humbly implore all who love Truth and Virtue to live above reproach in the sight of God and man with a firm reliance on the leadership and protection of Almighty God; and

BE IT RESOLVED that we, the undersigned, humbly call upon Holy God, our Creator, Sustainer, and Redeemer, to have mercy on this nation, to stay His hand of judgment, and grant a national awakening of righteousness and Christian renewal as we repent of our great sin.

Signed on the second day of July in the year of our Lord Christ Two Thousand and Nine.

Is this a governmental proclamation or an ecumenical creed?

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"I think it's very unfortunate, frankly, I haven't seen scapegoating like this since pre-World War II Germany", said C.S. Thornton, the Deputy Director of the ACLU Chapter of Oklahoma.

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"This resolution is an affront to those who believe in America's constitutional democracy and to people of all faiths who follow the universal teaching to love their neighbors as themselves. In one long diatribe, Rep. Kern manages to demean both the American founding fathers she quotes and the faith she is asking the state of Oklahoma to endorse." - The Human Rights Campaign

She really accomplishes something when she has me wholeheartedly agreeing with the ACLU and the Human Rights Campaign.
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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2009, 08:05:21 am »

I emailed my representative and asked her to condemn Ms. Kern's proclamation. I would encourage you to do the same.
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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2009, 08:24:31 am »

You all need to get your hate on this morning, so allow me to assist: what is wrong with the proc? These kinds of things are done all the time for all kinds of reasons. I find little I disagree with her on, I just wish she and her ilk would support the US HB which calls for 'auditing' the Federal Reserve.  Toothless, pointless proclamations are part of the distraction that have allowed our government to morph into something unrecognizable to our Founders, while the 'audit' bill is something that calls for action.

So, sure, waste your time on this distraction and get your seckler huemanista hackles all up with emails and calls on this issue.
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2009, 08:34:54 am »

You all need to get your hate on this morning, so allow me to assist: what is wrong with the proc? These kinds of things are done all the time for all kinds of reasons. I find little I disagree with her on, I just wish she and her ilk would support the US HB which calls for 'auditing' the Federal Reserve.  Toothless, pointless proclamations are part of the distraction that have allowed our government to morph into something unrecognizable to our Founders, while the 'audit' bill is something that calls for action.

So, you are in agreement that Sally Kern isn't doing her job and is instead wasting taxpayer money for her salary? She is using our dollars writing this proclamation instead of improving Oklahoma's infrastructure, education, and so forth.
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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2009, 08:35:59 am »

WHEREAS the Supreme Leader and Wise Council of the Saliban hath spoketh.

WHEREAS The Mouthpiece of the Lamb hath bleated her proclamation so thou shall knoweth that she is Almighty, Wise and Benevolent.


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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2009, 08:36:42 am »

I find little I disagree with her on . . .

Personally, I don't think Jesus caused the recession and I don't think we should expose homosexuals and attack them.  I'll start there with items of disagreement.
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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2009, 08:46:24 am »

So, you are in agreement that Sally Kern isn't doing her job and is instead wasting taxpayer money for her salary? She is using our dollars writing this proclamation instead of improving Oklahoma's infrastructure, education, and so forth.

Sure. These stupid proclamations are a waste, and I can see why some would take offense at the content, as well.
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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2009, 08:56:54 am »

Funniest comment I've seen on this topic:

"You know who else blamed an economic recession on a minority group?"
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« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2009, 09:20:34 am »

Funniest comment I've seen on this topic:

"You know who else blamed an economic recession on a minority group?"

I almost posted that on here.  However, everybody pulls out the "Hitler" card it is a little unjustified.  But, they are correct.  There was somebody else who blamed an economic recession on a minority group...
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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2009, 09:22:47 am »

"proclaiming an entire month to an immoral behavior;"

What month is she referring to?

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1085215.html  If this is what she is talking about... I take back my previous statement.
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