wind farm or wind-gen manufacturer near tulsa?

[Wrinkle]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by Wrinkle



Tulsa doesn't come close to that. We're in a Class 2 wind zone, average of only 7-9 mph.

According to the National Weather Service, Tulsa's average wind speed is 10.2 mph.

Big difference.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/tsa/climate/windavg.html

I was kind of guessing, knew it to be Class 2, missed the range slightly. The Class 2 to Class 3 border is 11.5 mph. Class 3 would be considered minimal for any wind power installation.

But, then again, other maps show Tulsa in the Class 3 zone (near the edge). So, depends on what readings one uses.

Very marginal here in Tulsa proper in any case.

Virtually all smaller turbines use 12 mph as their output point for documentation on annual kWHs.

Bergey's 10kW turbine, IMO, should be rated as only about 5kW since that is more practically what one would expect of it at a 12 mph average.

But, most small turbines rate that way, different from large turbines, which do better at stating their real output.

[Wrinkle]

Here's the Official US Wind Map:

[rwarn17588]

quote:Originally posted by Wrinkle

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by Wrinkle



Tulsa doesn't come close to that. We're in a Class 2 wind zone, average of only 7-9 mph.

According to the National Weather Service, Tulsa's average wind speed is 10.2 mph.

Big difference.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/tsa/climate/windavg.html

I was kind of guessing, knew it to be Class 2, missed the range slightly. The Class 2 to Class 3 border is 11.5 mph. Class 3 would be considered minimal for any wind power installation.

But, then again, other maps show Tulsa in the Class 3 zone (near the edge). So, depends on what readings one uses.

Very marginal here in Tulsa proper in any case.

Virtually all smaller turbines use 12 mph as their output point for documentation on annual kWHs.

Bergey's 10kW turbine, IMO, should be rated as only about 5kW since that is more practically what one would expect of it at a 12 mph average.

But, most small turbines rate that way, different from large turbines, which do better at stating their real output.

Keep in mind that a whole bunch of home-based, low-wind-speed turbines are coming on the market in the next year or so, if they aren't already. So what's "marginal" here might become really viable quick.

But the point has been duly made. And I like solar more as alternative power in this part of Oklahoma because it's durable, reliable and no maintenance.

[Wrinkle]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by Wrinkle

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by Wrinkle



Tulsa doesn't come close to that. We're in a Class 2 wind zone, average of only 7-9 mph.

According to the National Weather Service, Tulsa's average wind speed is 10.2 mph.

Big difference.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/tsa/climate/windavg.html

I was kind of guessing, knew it to be Class 2, missed the range slightly. The Class 2 to Class 3 border is 11.5 mph. Class 3 would be considered minimal for any wind power installation.

But, then again, other maps show Tulsa in the Class 3 zone (near the edge). So, depends on what readings one uses.

Very marginal here in Tulsa proper in any case.

Virtually all smaller turbines use 12 mph as their output point for documentation on annual kWHs.

Bergey's 10kW turbine, IMO, should be rated as only about 5kW since that is more practically what one would expect of it at a 12 mph average.

But, most small turbines rate that way, different from large turbines, which do better at stating their real output.

Keep in mind that a whole bunch of home-based, low-wind-speed turbines are coming on the market in the next year or so, if they aren't already. So what's "marginal" here might become really viable quick.

But the point has been duly made. And I like solar more as alternative power in this part of Oklahoma because it's durable, reliable and no maintenance.

Agreed. Though, I'm not as hopeful as you about the lowspeed wind turbines' efficiency, especially when cost is considered. Maybe, we'll see.

Solar is a better option with much more upside potential with time. At least, here in the city. If you go out to western Oklahoma, wind remains best (in Class 4 areas).

I still think we should drill a pair of 20k-foot wells for EGS (Engineered Geothermal System). We're in a 150-200 degree C (300-400F) zone. Seems a near snap for oil outriggers.

[Michael71]

quote:Originally posted by joiei

My brother is working on a wind farm installation down south of Corpus Christi so they might be going there.

How can you get there going N on 169?

[joiei]

quote:Originally posted by MichaelWayne_71

quote:Originally posted by joiei

My brother is working on a wind farm installation down south of Corpus Christi so they might be going there.

How can you get there going N on 169?

from this statement by Cannonfodder -  

quote: The only other explanation I can think of is they are going to the port to be shipped out to the gulf or somewhere in Kansas.

[patric]

Catoosa Wind Mill Company Cutting Back

There might be a reason why the demand for windmills is less than promised, as there are some concerns that utilities are only getting behind wind power to get new transmission lines built to areas where they actually plan to build coal-burning plants:


The interior West's abundance of both green-energy resources and traditional fossil fuels make some watchdogs nervous about a rush to build what has been called an Interstate highway system for electrons. The idea of expanding transmission lines is commonly pitched by politicians as a way to put people to work while removing a crucial obstacle to renewable power.

But it's not going to be just wind and sun on those wires. "Some proponents of expanding coal-fired electricity production are using windfarms as a rationalization for greatly expanding transmission lines through the region.

They talk a lot about wind power, but their real interest is vastly expanded use of coal in generating electricity," says Larry Swanson, a regional economist at the O'Connor Center for the Rocky Mountain West at the University of Montana in Missoula.  
http://www.windaction.org/news/19326