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 on: June 24, 2020, 12:48:45 pm 
Started by Conan71 - Last post by patric

He started out with lies about people outside causing big problems...oh, wait...that may be true... his campaign complained about a teacher and asked the TPD to arrest her.   So they did!   Even though she had a ticket and was doing nothing but waiting in line with the rest of the covid bait.  But...to paraphrase the Wizard...she had one other thing the rest of them didn't!   A 'Black Lives Matter' t-shirt.

So let's review.   Functionaries who very likely were bringing their covid to the state.  Ask the TPD to arrest a woman with NO justification.  No basis in law.  And the TPD does exactly that!   Put her in handcuffs and took her away.  For NO reason whatsoever.    Yeah...that's sounds about right.   I guess she should consider herself lucky they didn't slam her to the ground and then shoot her.  (Remember Betty Shelby?)


Police were essentially acting as private security.
All those arrested were charged with "obstruction" as opposed to a reasonable articulable crime, and at least one credentialed reporter was allegedly arrested for photographing people being arrested.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/photojournalist-says-trump-rally-arrest-unjustified/article_b7d7b14c-8244-589d-9076-f2ce72c29e4c.html

To be fair, I think TPD got a bum wrap for being accused of holding back the "thousands" who would have filled the arena. Thats on the campaign manager.

 42 
 on: June 24, 2020, 11:31:36 am 
Started by LandArchPoke - Last post by DowntownDan
Any idea why El Guapo is painting over their exterior on Elgin, including the mural? Hopefully they will replace the mural with some sort.

 43 
 on: June 24, 2020, 10:17:16 am 
Started by patric - Last post by SXSW
I'm going to disagree with the "coronafest" outcome.  I think Tulsa handled itself well.  While I think the rally was a stupid idea in the first place, that wasn't really our call.  With all the various factions in play, it could have gone South pretty hard.  Instead, we took a difficult situation and showed that events like this can be handled without extremism and violence.  Overall, I think it was a positive for Tulsa. 

Agree.  If there is anything to learn or improve on it is that we need more and better higher education opportunities and to raise our profile as a city on the rise.  Elon himself said he was concerned about this:

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“He has some concerns about the ability to attract enough engineers into Tulsa just because he is not familiar with Tulsa and we don’t have a University of Texas here in town that pumps out thousands of engineers,” Commerce and Workforce Development Secretary Sean Kouplen said Thursday.

 44 
 on: June 24, 2020, 09:15:27 am 
Started by patric - Last post by rebound
Never was any doubt about that leverage thing.   And last weekend's coronafest would have definitely sealed the deal if there had been a chance.

I'm going to disagree with the "coronafest" outcome.  I think Tulsa handled itself well.  While I think the rally was a stupid idea in the first place, that wasn't really our call.  With all the various factions in play, it could have gone South pretty hard.  Instead, we took a difficult situation and showed that events like this can be handled without extremism and violence.  Overall, I think it was a positive for Tulsa. 

 45 
 on: June 23, 2020, 09:35:24 pm 
Started by patric - Last post by heironymouspasparagus
https://austonia.com/amp/elon-musk-tesla-2646237196?utm_campaign=RebelMouse&share_id=5619951&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=Austonia&__twitter_impression=true

Not a lot of information coming out on Tesla's decision. However based on what is being reported it seems Austin is probably the first choice for Tesla.

Last week Elon tweeted that nothing has been finalized and multiple options are still being considered.

It seems Tulsa is in fact being used as leverage, or at least a backup plan, to expedite things in Austin.



Never was any doubt about that leverage thing.   And last weekend's coronafest would have definitely sealed the deal if there had been a chance.

 46 
 on: June 23, 2020, 09:33:45 pm 
Started by Conan71 - Last post by heironymouspasparagus
Social Distancing



He started out with lies about people outside causing big problems...oh, wait...that may be true... his campaign complained about a teacher and asked the TPD to arrest her.   So they did!   Even though she had a ticket and was doing nothing but waiting in line with the rest of the covid bait.  But...to paraphrase the Wizard...she had one other thing the rest of them didn't!   A 'Black Lives Matter' t-shirt.

So let's review.   Functionaries who very likely were bringing their covid to the state.  Ask the TPD to arrest a woman with NO justification.  No basis in law.  And the TPD does exactly that!   Put her in handcuffs and took her away.  For NO reason whatsoever.    Yeah...that's sounds about right.   I guess she should consider herself lucky they didn't slam her to the ground and then shoot her.  (Remember Betty Shelby?)



 47 
 on: June 23, 2020, 04:57:23 pm 
Started by PonderInc - Last post by AdamsHall
So they are abating it but not repurposing it?  What is the point of doing that?  Hopefully once abated it gets torn down, it is one of the biggest eyesores in the city.

I don't have any inside knowledge on what they are doing with this project, but I am familiar with asbestos renovation/demolitions, generally.  Maybe the exterior panels will be part of the planned asbestos removal. 

To your 2nd questions, based upon the pictures provided above, the exterior panels appear to be removable considering the underlying metal superstructure.  As such, I suspect if the panels are removed, it would then make sense financially to rebuild around the existing metal structure ... but that is a guess.  Several years ago, I believe they did something similar with the building at 1307 South Boulder, i.e., removed the exterior panels and rebuilt around the existing structure.

 48 
 on: June 23, 2020, 04:25:44 pm 
Started by PonderInc - Last post by SXSW
So they are abating it but not repurposing it?  What is the point of doing that?  Hopefully once abated it gets torn down, it is one of the biggest eyesores in the city.

 49 
 on: June 23, 2020, 04:17:53 pm 
Started by patric - Last post by SXSW
I think this process has put Tulsa firmly on their radar for future expansion either Tesla or SpaceX.  Just need to continue building momentum and not lay up.

 50 
 on: June 23, 2020, 02:55:49 pm 
Started by patric - Last post by Oil Capital
https://austonia.com/amp/elon-musk-tesla-2646237196?utm_campaign=RebelMouse&share_id=5619951&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=Austonia&__twitter_impression=true

Not a lot of information coming out on Tesla's decision. However based on what is being reported it seems Austin is probably the first choice for Tesla.

Last week Elon tweeted that nothing has been finalized and multiple options are still being considered.

It seems Tulsa is in fact being used as leverage, or at least a backup plan, to expedite things in Austin.

Combined with the story in the Business Journals, it's looking like Austin is the first and second choice (with the Hutto site looking like the runner-up again).
 

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