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January 17, 2019, 03:12:11 pm
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 on: January 16, 2019, 12:24:21 pm 
Started by patric - Last post by rebound
Something about this story feels off.  Maybe it is just overzealous local cops looking for a big civil forfeiture payout.  But if you are shipping a tractor trailer load of industrial hemp across the country under the current laws and police climate, wouldn’t you be extra careful to have all the necessary paperwork, documentation and manifest lined up proving that it is actually industrial hemp?

Did you read the original article?

“We have a suite of paperwork that (proves the shipment) is hemp, but they jump to the conclusion that it’s marijuana and that it’s the biggest marijuana bust of all time,” Robison said.

The crew apparently stuck around for hours working with the various officials trying to work this out, which I assume would have included calls to both the supplier and customer, but were still arrested.

What's telling to me is that they were offered the chance to leave, but authorities wanted to keep the truck.   If were not about forfeiture, the cops could have simply recorded everything, taken a sample of load, and sent them on their way.  Charges could be pressed later, if needed. But then the locals don't have the truck to sell later.

There is no way a law enforcement person could possibly think that was actual marijuana for distribution. I mean, look at it.  At "best", they may have thought they could gin something up related to the THC content not testing low enough, but that's a stretch.   They just wanted to keep the truck, or they are complete idiots, or both.

 on: January 16, 2019, 12:23:26 pm 
Started by BKDotCom - Last post by DTowner
This mall had struggled, but its ultimate demise was assured when it started losing chain stores in the early 2000s.  Unless someone like OU buys it for a major redevelopment project, it will likely take a decade to see it fully rehabbed into other purposes.

 on: January 16, 2019, 11:58:14 am 
Started by BKDotCom - Last post by TulsaGoldenHurriCAN
The movie theater no longer has movie listings and several other stores have closed.  What's going on at Promenade?

This board has been talking about this for some time (Especially in this thread: http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=21470.75). Online is stil just in its infancy and only 10% of total retail in 2017.

In order to survive in retail as a big mall, you have to be the hot new thing on the block with all the trendy places or face a quick decline. Promenade had already been on the decline back in the 2000s before online retail was so huge. Now it's dated and lacking the wow/nice factor to lure in people. Woodlands is still a destination for Southys. Promenade isn't a destination and has felt on the downward spiral for some time.

I do hope OU Tulsa expands and Promenade seems like a good close spot (with AMPLE parking!), but unless they get the mall for cheap, it may not be the best setup as it would require a massive investment to retrofit into medical or education facilities. It's a tough choice when you would only typically save maybe 25% by remodeling vs building new and have a far less attractive building in this case. That is potentially cut down to maybe 15% with increased building material costs right now and the entire mall is probably far more than OU could use any time soon. So unless they are basically giving the mall away or splitting up parts, it might not make sense for them to retro fit. Best turn it into an outlet mall or maybe the worlds first Church Mall! Shop for all you creed needs in one place!

I do see the future of the mall being similar to Eastland, with bigger businesses/churches/medical moving in, but one section at a time and potentially keeping the food court viable. Medical makes the most sense though.

 on: January 16, 2019, 11:25:06 am 
Started by BKDotCom - Last post by Townsend
The movie theater no longer has movie listings and several other stores have closed.  What's going on at Promenade?

 on: January 16, 2019, 10:55:07 am 
Started by BKDotCom - Last post by SXSW
The movie theater no longer has movie listings and several other stores have closed.  What's going on at Promenade?


The rumor that OU is buying it is still out there but I don't see any confirmation.  There were two statements the new OU president made at his inauguration speech that were interesting:

Additionally, Gallogly said he wants OU Medical Center to be available to everyone in the state of Oklahoma, as he said it’s Oklahoma’s largest and most comprehensive hospital.

“It would be nice for OU medicine to be the provider of choice for everyone in the state of Oklahoma,” Gallogly said.

Gallogly recognized the OU Tulsa campus in northeastern Oklahoma and added that he would like to see it grow.

1. Expansion of the OU Medical Center could mean a physical hospital in Tulsa in conjunction with the medical school/community medicine program at OU-Tulsa
2. Growth of the OU-Tulsa campus could mean a physical expansion across Yale

 on: January 15, 2019, 09:22:05 pm 
Started by Conan71 - Last post by heironymouspasparagus
Once again, Trump is talking withdrawal from NATO.

"Gift of the century" to Russia according to US Admiral Stavridis. Former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO.

And the Minions still don't smell the cloying, decayed flesh smell of treason....   Good job, Minions!  (sarcasm moment...)


 on: January 15, 2019, 08:31:54 pm 
Started by LandArchPoke - Last post by Red Arrow
That's "First National Prosperous Vast Blue Skies Bank"

Might as well make it a "National" bank.

 on: January 15, 2019, 04:36:49 pm 
Started by LandArchPoke - Last post by DowntownDan
It looks like Vast.bank. Everything is cooler when it's a web address. Like church.

 on: January 15, 2019, 04:17:17 pm 
Started by LandArchPoke - Last post by BKDotCom
At the risk of sounding snarky, what is up with the new name “Vast Bank”?  Maybe with a couple of mergers we could end up with “Prosperous Vast Blue Skies Bank.”

That's "First Prosperous Vast Blue Skies Bank"

 on: January 15, 2019, 03:48:05 pm 
Started by LandArchPoke - Last post by swake
On their facebook page the Tulsa Club hotel says they will be open in March.

Also, there's now construction fence around the old Sooner Federal Building on Boston that's being converted to a Hyatt Place Hotel.

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