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on: February 21, 2020, 12:27:24 pm
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| Started by BKDotCom - Last post by Laramie | ||
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My own personal opinion on these stars; I'll be seeing stars if I ever shelled out that much money to stay in one...
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on: February 21, 2020, 12:19:44 pm
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| Started by BKDotCom - Last post by erfalf | ||
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Also for the record, Marriott Autograph collection isn't exactly in the business of providing world class hotels either. Good hotels, yes. Great hotels, sure. World class...not so much.
Right now Marriott has 3 4-Stars on the list. All are in China. They have a slew of recommended properties, but not one is an Autograph collection. JW Marriott is their flagship "brand". |
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on: February 21, 2020, 12:14:34 pm
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| Started by BKDotCom - Last post by erfalf | ||
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This will not make the Forbes list....probably ever. I would bet my life it would never get a four star rating. The company's other hotels have a better shot at that.
And look, the Renaissance Oklahoma City Convention Center Hotel is a fine hotel. A four star hotel it is not. It's no different than a Embassy Suites or something like that. There are zillions of those establishments. They are all fine places. But they are not incredibly unique in their quality. Haven't personally stayed at the other ones. I'm sure they are also very nice. And will probably get 4 and 5 stars on Trip Advisor. But claiming this is going to be a five star is ludicrous. It's playing on people's ignorance. Hoping they don't understand what it truly takes to be ranked as one of the finest hotels in the world. |
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on: February 21, 2020, 12:14:13 pm
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| Started by BKDotCom - Last post by swake | ||
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Marriott Autograph 5 star hotel... Think about the amount of money being invested into this project which has balooned in the $300 million range since they released that video--plus $45 million in TIF fund from OKC. You think they are going to play on words like 5 star hotel if they are not. Your brand means more than stealing a star--there are standards you have to meet to achieve the 5 star brand with papers to back that up. Theses are brands and flags that's backed by Marriott--you don't just claim to be a *****5 star***** hotel when you aren't; you'd have so many lawsuits filed by Marriott you wouldn't be able to sleep--whether you open or not. Think about it. Sued for what exactly? And if developers were sued for hyperbolic statements, well, there'd be no developers and Trump would be homeless living in a van down by the river. |
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on: February 21, 2020, 12:07:16 pm
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| Started by BKDotCom - Last post by Laramie | ||
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Yeah, no. From a personal perspective, I do check the ratings on Expedia, TripAdvisor, etc. So in relative terms these are obviously good hotels and rated well by people who stay there. But when claiming something like "five star hotel", it has to be based on a common metric, and the industry standard is, for now, Forbes. Kind of like claiming a restaurant is three-star, but not using Michelin. Doesn't mean the place isn't good, but we need to know what metric they are using. Marriott Autograph 5 star hotel... Think about the amount of money being invested into this project which has balooned in the $300 million range since they released that video--plus $45 million in TIF fund from OKC. You think they are going to play on words like 5 star hotel if they are not. Your brand means more than stealing a star--there are standards you have to meet to achieve the 5 star brand with papers to back that up. Theses are brands and flags that's backed by Marriott--you don't just claim to be a *****5 star***** hotel when you aren't; you'd have so many lawsuits filed by Marriott you wouldn't be able to sleep--whether you open or not. Think about it. So true, they aren't open; however scheduled to open in 2021. There are tons of planning & marketing ahead for a hotel on this scale. The magnitude to which you don't risk your investment over being a 5 star vs. a 4 star. Personally, this hotel will be out-of-my-league. My travels allows me to patronize a Four Points or Holiday Inn Express--I'm not losing any sleep over a $55 bed vs a $290 bed; no shame in my game--wouldn't get any sleep thinking I shelled out a ton of money to impress someone about things I can't afford unless I were a con artist, my funds will only stretch so far--beat me, beat me and call me CHEAP.  There are better things to spend my money on. Apparently there's a market for a Marriott Autograph 5-star hotel in Oklahoma. As for Forbes, they're a reliable & reputable souce 95% of the time--it's that 5% where something slips through the cracks. |
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on: February 21, 2020, 10:54:50 am
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| Started by BKDotCom - Last post by rebound | ||
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Five best 4-Star Hotels in Oklahoma City: Kind of like claiming a restaurant is three-star, but not using Michelin. Doesn't mean the place isn't good, but we need to know what metric they are using. |
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on: February 21, 2020, 08:19:13 am
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| Started by shavethewhales - Last post by shavethewhales | ||
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https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/work-on-city-s-new-million-children-s-museum-set/article_5d749856-5398-5651-bc6f-05bf913e910b.html
Now that work has commenced, I feel that this deserves it's own thread. This is a huge development and an incredible asset. In some ways it will be as big a draw as the Gathering Place itself. Together it will be an unrivaled attraction for young families within at least a four hour drive of Tulsa. Now to figure out parking... |
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on: February 20, 2020, 08:27:11 pm
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| Started by BKDotCom - Last post by Laramie | ||
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OKLAHOMA CITY CONVENTION & VISITORS BUREAU UNVIELS NEW BRANDING IDENTITY FOR OKLAHOMA CITY  Velocity: https://www.velocityokc.com/blog/economy/oklahoma-city-convention-visitors-bureau-unveils-new-branding-identity-for-oklahoma-city |
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on: February 20, 2020, 08:01:00 pm
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| Started by BKDotCom - Last post by Laramie | ||
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Coming soon: $287 million renovation First National Center.  First National Center 2021: TIF District News 9 video: https://www.news9.com/story/40232869/developer-gives-first-look-at-hotel-rooms-apartments-at-first-national-in-downtown-okc (Marriott Autograph 5 star hotel) |
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