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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2013, 09:50:35 am » |
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Seriously? NIMBY stuff?
I don't know who could be upset about the location. The area is already an industrial park, and it's right next to 75. It will add some congestion to the 76th street N and HWY 75 intersection, but overall it's a great place to put a DC.
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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2013, 09:50:50 am » |
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I'm guessing this going in across the street (north side of 76th) of Whirlpool?
There are some newer homes on the NW side of that parcel of land and I can understand those homeowners being upset they weren't informed of this but at the same time that areas is industrial and marked build to suite IIRC so...
Is it not the realtors responsibility to inform potential buyers of things like this?
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« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2013, 09:56:00 am » |
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I don't know who could be upset about the location. The area is already an industrial park, and it's right next to 75. It will add some congestion to the 76th street N and HWY 75 intersection, but overall it's a great place to put a DC.
76th street will have to be redone. At minimum the outside lanes in both directions. They are literally sinking and disintegrating and patching can't keep up. The drainage pipes under the road in some spots appear to have caved in as well. I don't know who the contractor on that 4 lane project was but they managed to do a worse job than whoever did the Creek Turnpike bridge over the SE wetlands.
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« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2013, 09:56:55 am » |
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I'm guessing this going in across the street (north side of 76th) of Whirlpool?
There are some newer homes on the NW side of that parcel of land and I can understand those homeowners being upset they weren't informed of this but at the same time that areas is industrial and marked build to suite IIRC so...
Is it not the realtors responsibility to inform potential buyers of things like this?
Probably no more than a realtor's responsibility to inform a home buyer of an existing nearby airport and the noise it may generate. Similar situation to the dirt track car racing at the fairgrounds in the 70s.
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« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2013, 09:57:57 am » |
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I don't know who the contractor on that 4 lane project was but they managed to do a worse job than whoever did the Creek Turnpike bridge over the SE wetlands.
You have something against roller coasters? Actually, that road surface is in lieu of speed limit enforcement expenses.
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« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2013, 09:58:16 am » |
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76th street will have to be redone. At minimum the outside lanes in both directions. They are literally sinking and disintegrating and patching can't keep up. The drainage pipes under the road in some spots appear to have caved in as well.
I don't know who the contractor on that 4 lane project was but they managed to do a worse job than whoever did the Creek Turnpike bridge over the SE wetlands.
Yep. That area near the industrial park has not stood up to traffic at all. And there are spots all the way into Owasso that need repair.
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« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2013, 11:41:50 am » |
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This is great, this is fantastic- Thank you Mary Fallin! Yep Mary Fallin beat out the other states and brought Macys to Oklahoma. I don't think Macys would come to Oklahoma if we had a Democrat gov who who tax them and regulate them to death. Last year Mary Fallin brought 500 jobs to Tulsa. This news is outstanding we are talking about 1,000 good paying $15.00 an hour jobs at a huge distribution center. Good Job Governor!
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« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2013, 11:45:40 am » |
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Yep. That area near the industrial park has not stood up to traffic at all. And there are spots all the way into Owasso that need repair.
They may have to widen the road as they build the new distribution center and WoW that new building will be huge and state of the art. I worked at the Big Lots distribution center in Columbus, Ohio back in 1992 and I thought that place was huge but we only had 400 employees and it was not not large as this Macys center will be. What a boom for Tulsa and Oklahoma!
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« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2013, 11:50:41 am » |
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I'm guessing this going in across the street (north side of 76th) of Whirlpool?
Just saw the article in the paper, and by the picture it looks like it is going in East of Whirlpool, South of 76Th st. There are a few houses that front 76th on the North side opposite the site, but given that there is already industry in the area I can't see how this would be a big surprise.
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« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2013, 11:51:02 am » |
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Residents near there are complaining they weren’t told about it first.
That's probably closer to it. The developer apparently treated neighbors like they weren't even there, which they see as a warning flag. Probably no more than a realtor's responsibility to inform a home buyer of an existing nearby airport and the noise it may generate. Similar situation to the dirt track car racing at the fairgrounds in the 70s.
If the airport or racing track havent been built yet, or even rumored, that would be a better analogy.
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« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2013, 12:09:08 pm » |
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If the airport or racing track havent been built yet, or even rumored, that would be a better analogy.
Better analogy: The runways were there, but the terminal hadn't been built yet. Racetrack was there, but the grandstands hadn't been built yet. the industrial park has been there with industry pending.
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« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2013, 12:23:31 pm » |
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If the airport or racing track havent been built yet, or even rumored, that would be a better analogy.
Probably but see BKDotCom's even better analogy. My point was that realtors don't seem to be obligated to tell prospective buyers of even existing situations much less ones that are zoned but just not developed yet.
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« Reply #27 on: December 18, 2013, 12:40:41 pm » |
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This is great, this is fantastic- Thank you Mary Fallin! Yep Mary Fallin beat out the other states and brought Macys to Oklahoma. I don't think Macys would come to Oklahoma if we had a Democrat gov who who tax them and regulate them to death. Last year Mary Fallin brought 500 jobs to Tulsa. This news is outstanding we are talking about 1,000 good paying $15.00 an hour jobs at a huge distribution center. Good Job Governor! What an idiotic post. Zarrow's son had a lot more to do with it than Failin' did (read the morning newspaper...free at the librarium). Since he passed away, she hustled over to get the photo ops in an election year. Making potential users aware of land opportunities others put together is not genious work. Democrats do it. Republicans do it. Commercial real estate people do it. Libertarians talk about doing it.
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« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2013, 12:48:52 pm » |
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Probably but see BKDotCom's even better analogy. My point was that realtors don't seem to be obligated to tell prospective buyers of even existing situations much less ones that are zoned but just not developed yet.
They did have that obligation when I sold real estate for a Realtor broker. I couldn't say for commercial real estate people but if you had the information or were privy to it before the public, you could be held liable for not sharing that with a buyer or seller. For instance if the land nearby had recently been zoned for coal mining but the signs were not obvious, yes, you better inform them even if it had been in the newspaper. Prospective buyers (not offering a contract) I don't know. As a professional there was a reasonable expectation that we would not mislead, withhold or deceive buyers and sellers. Otherwise there is no real reason for the Real Estate licensing.
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« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2013, 12:55:47 pm » |
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This news is outstanding we are talking about 1,000 good paying $15.00 an hour jobs at a huge distribution center.
Well, it's a lot better than minimum wage.
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