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« Reply #405 on: October 15, 2011, 08:13:41 pm »

Do people still actually vote straight ticket? For myself I have never voted a straight ticket in a general election.
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« Reply #406 on: October 15, 2011, 09:14:20 pm »

Peanut gallery is strangely silent.  Of course they didn't go single-payer like Nate and Wevus wanted.  That would have been so much better.

Who else believed the government monopolizing the health insurance industry would translates into better results in healthcare? Yeah, I used to believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny too.

Now now.  The only reason I think single payer is the way to go is that it works stupendously (better results, far cheaper costs) in every other first world country, not because I necessarily think the government is a panacea for every problem under the sun.  But this problem?  Definitely.

And you know . . . Iraq and Afghanistan have absolutely nothing to do with Obamacare.  Hence, I didn't feel the need to respond. 

I vote straight ticket (surprise!) but because 1) I tend to agree more with with Democrats than Republicans and use that as a guide if I don't know about a particular race; and 2) looking at the type of people the Republicans are putting up in local, state, and national elections, I know I'll disagree with them on just about everything.  Problem solved! 

Except that Blake Ewing cat.  I hear he's an R and I just might have to pull the lever for him anyway. 
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« Reply #407 on: October 15, 2011, 11:11:55 pm »

Now now.  The only reason I think single payer is the way to go is that it works stupendously (better results, far cheaper costs) in every other first world country, not because I necessarily think the government is a panacea for every problem under the sun.  But this problem?  Definitely.

We are not every other country in the world.

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And you know . . . Iraq and Afghanistan have absolutely nothing to do with Obamacare. 

Wow! We agree on something.

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I vote straight ticket (surprise!)

No surprise

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but because 1) I tend to agree more with with Democrats than Republicans and use that as a guide if I don't know about a particular race; and 2) looking at the type of people the Republicans are putting up in local, state, and national elections, I know I'll disagree with them on just about everything.  Problem solved! 

Same reason that I vote Republican if there is not a compelling reason to vote otherwise.

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Except that Blake Ewing cat.  I hear he's an R and I just might have to pull the lever for him anyway. 

Don't do it.  You will regret it for the rest of your life.  Kind of like when I voted for Turpin.
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« Reply #408 on: October 15, 2011, 11:25:20 pm »

Do people still actually vote straight ticket? For myself I have never voted a straight ticket in a general election.

I have never voted straight ticket.  I have voted individually for every Republican but have never checked the straight ticket box.  It's a matter of principal.
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« Reply #409 on: October 16, 2011, 06:06:58 pm »

Do people still actually vote straight ticket? For myself I have never voted a straight ticket in a general election.

Yep. I have made clear that I am a singe issue voter. It just so happens that one party generally supports my issue. I have voted for the other party when that candidate supports my issue.
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« Reply #410 on: October 17, 2011, 06:40:26 am »

We are not every other country in the world.



You got that right!  We are the ones sliding the most/fastest from where we were.  Unless you think 38th in healthcare in the world is an improvement? 

Third world type levels of infant mortality (one place behind Cuba).  Yeah, that's great.

Highest costs in the world!

Can it possibly get any better??

Well, yes it can.  And it has started.
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« Reply #411 on: November 11, 2011, 07:47:25 pm »

I can think of a few hundred people that are now firmly against Obamacare.

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Stryker, the Kalamazoo-based maker of artificial hips and knees, will cut 5% of its global workforce by the end of next year to reduce costs in the face of new fees on device makers required by the U.S. health care law.

The job cuts will reduce annual pretax operating costs by more than $100 million beginning in 2013, when the medical-device excise tax is scheduled to take effect, Stryker said Thursday in a statement. Stryker had more than 20,000 employees as of Dec. 31, according to Bloomberg News data.


http://www.freep.com/article/20111111/BUSINESS06/111110345/Stryker-cut-5-workforce?odyssey=mod
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« Reply #412 on: November 11, 2011, 08:19:15 pm »

I can think of a few hundred people that are now firmly against Obamacare.


http://www.freep.com/article/20111111/BUSINESS06/111110345/Stryker-cut-5-workforce?odyssey=mod

Oh give me a break. You really can't see through this lie? Corporation scapegoating government for their need to increase their margins.

The BigPharma extremes that went on unchecked are now under pressure to get their costs under control. They need to quit gigging the sick and using Medicaid/Medicare and Insurance companies as their unlimited suppliers.

Please quit putting your politics in front of the need to corral the ridiculous increases in health care costs born mostly by the disadvantaged.

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« Reply #413 on: November 11, 2011, 09:50:49 pm »

Oh give me a break. You really can't see through this lie? Corporation scapegoating government for their need to increase their margins.



You asked for it:

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« Reply #414 on: November 12, 2011, 11:42:49 am »

A Socialist wrote the Pledge of Allegiance. Jesus healed the sick and helped the poor, for free.


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« Reply #415 on: November 12, 2011, 12:44:00 pm »

the ridiculous increases in health care costs born mostly by the disadvantaged.

Actually, I think most of the cost is born by the middle class lucky enough to have health insurance. 
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« Reply #416 on: November 12, 2011, 12:50:54 pm »

Jesus healed the sick and helped the poor, for free.

And look what it got him.
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« Reply #417 on: November 12, 2011, 09:23:04 pm »

Actually, I think most of the cost is born by the middle class lucky enough to have health insurance. 

Wait until you try and sort through the quagmire of retirement benefits and Medicare parts A & B when some one has hip replacement surgery and two months of rehab, and home rehab and health care for a month. I can tell you I would rather do my 1040 than sort this out.
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« Reply #418 on: November 13, 2011, 10:17:19 am »

Wait until you try and sort through the quagmire of retirement benefits and Medicare parts A & B when some one has hip replacement surgery and two months of rehab, and home rehab and health care for a month. I can tell you I would rather do my 1040 than sort this out.

I don't doubt that at all.
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« Reply #419 on: November 14, 2011, 11:11:20 am »

Do people still actually vote straight ticket? For myself I have never voted a straight ticket in a general election.

Yes, they do.  It is a symptom of the ignorance and laziness of the voter doing so.  I have never voted straight ticket and probably never will - at least I hope I never degenerate to that low a level of mental performance....but there is a lot of 'early onset Alzheimers' around... (just look around here...LOL!)





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