President Trump- The Implications

[Hoss]

I guess I don't get the rub here, that seems to be a very rare logical statement by our CIC.

Maybe because he didn't do so with Texas, or Florida or Louisiana?  Maybe because he's been criticized pretty heavily for PR and not for other places?  This president needs a binky evidently.

[patric]

Maybe because he didn't do so with Texas, or Florida or Louisiana?  Maybe because he's been criticized pretty heavily for PR and not for other places?  This president needs a binky evidently.

The winner.  Apparently Trump didnt like being reminded that a dark-skinned territory was his responsibility too.

Someone we havent heard from in a while.  Who? You'll find out.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/10/media/jon-stewart-colbert-donald-trump/index.html

[guido911]

The winner.  Apparently Trump didnt like being reminded that a dark-skinned territory was his responsibility too.

Someone we havent heard from in a while.  Who? You'll find out.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/10/media/jon-stewart-colbert-donald-trump/index.html

You ever been to Puerto Rico? I have and would have a hard time calling any of those I spent time with as "dark-skinned". But if you are a selective bigot I guess you could make that case. Here's the dark-skinned mayor of San Juan:



And here is an example where Trump defends U.S. territories and interests, which was met with approval by its leader.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/09/20/guam-governor-eddie-calvo-donald-trump-north-korea/684185001/


And here is a quote from someone in this forum that thinks a threat of nuking Guam is kinda funny.

Trump thanks Russia for expelling US diplomats, says it would help to cut payroll
http://tass.com/world/959957

Now see, maybe we have this all wrong.  Maybe we might thank Kim Jong-un for trimming the populations of Guam or Chicago.

What country are we making great again?

[swake]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/15/politics/trump-campaign-subpoena-sexual-assault-allegations/index.html

(CNN)Lawyers for one of the women who have accused Donald Trump of sexual assault subpoenaed his campaign for all documents relating to her, all communications with or about her and "all documents concerning any woman who asserted that Donald J. Trump touched her inappropriately."

[bluelake]

What I find humorous is how the whole Puerto Rico disaster is Trump's Fault™ even though he's only been President 10 months when this happened.  Puerto Rico's neglect and screwing, as well as crime and corruption, goes back DECADES.  If previous administrations, Obama/BushJ/Clinton/BushS, as well as previous congresses, both Democrat and Republication majorities, had done more to help Puerto Rico and not just saddle it with $70+ billion of debt then they would NOT be in a disaster this bad.  It's not like hurricanes are a big surprise down there--on average 1/4 of their yearly rainfall comes from tropical cyclones!

Puerto Rico's position isn't helped by the fact it has no voting representation in Congress.  Before the hurricanes Puerto Rico’s unemployment rate was 11+%, with 46% of its citizens living in poverty and 58 percent of children living in poverty.

It's also interesting the Trump Haters™ are neglecting to mention that Trump made the mind-blowing suggestion of canceling out all of Puerto Rico's odious debt.  Although Trump can't do that himself, he is correct that the debt is odious.  It's interesting that the origin of the term 'odious debt' involves Puerto Rico and Spanish debt when America took control of Puerto Rico after the Spanish-American War.

Obama does deserve some recent blame by setting up the PROMESA Act, which sets up a board that can overrule the elected leadership of Puerto Rico which resulted in cuts across the board to health care and education so the creditors could be repaid.   Just swirling Puerto Rico further down the drain.

[Conan71]

The winner.  Apparently Trump didnt like being reminded that a dark-skinned territory was his responsibility too.

Sorry that doesn't wash, only 50% of Houston's population is white.  67% of New Orleans is Black.  South Florida is chock full of minorities.

[bluelake]

Actually no, it isn't comical.  It's pathetic.  


And given his well documented activities over the decades; criminal, immoral, lies, cheating, sexual molestation, and just plain old vile and disgusting - one has to wonder about the mental/moral compass of his minions.  Where do you suppose Harvey Weinstein got his training...?   Maybe you are ok with Harvey, too??

Well, seeing that the Clintons and Harvey Weinstein have been close friends going back decades I'd say he learned it from Bill Clinton.

[erfalf]

Sorry that doesn't wash, only 50% of Houston's population is white.  67% of New Orleans is Black.  South Florida is chock full of minorities.

I may be wrong, but I believe the census even consider's 3/4 of Puerto Rico to be "white". No joke. Many have Spanish blood in their families. Most of the Caribbean islands are territories of European countries, Netherlands and France to name a few. Many actually self-identify as being White or Hispanic.

Fighting ignorance with ignorance is rarely a winning game plan.

[bluelake]

In the 1899 census, one year after the U.S invaded and took control of the island, 61.8% of the people self-identified as White. In the 2010 United States Census the total of Puerto Ricans that self-identified as White was 75.8% or 2,825,100 out of the 3,725,789 people living in Puerto Rico.[33][44][45] down from 80.5%[46] in the 2000 Census.[44]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Ricans#White

[guido911]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/15/politics/trump-campaign-subpoena-sexual-assault-allegations/index.html

(CNN)Lawyers for one of the women who have accused Donald Trump of sexual assault subpoenaed his campaign for all documents relating to her, all communications with or about her and "all documents concerning any woman who asserted that Donald J. Trump touched her inappropriately."

Yeah. An allegation of harassment from 2008, that Trump denied. Is this subpoena from the defamation case brought by that "victim" because Trump denied the allegation?

Victim: You harassed me.
Trump:  The hell I did.
Victim:  Well...I'm going to sue you for calling me a liar. And to prove my case, I am going to ask for all documents to prove you harassed other people-because that will somehow prove that I am not lying about what happened to me.

Funny how this subpoena was issued back in March, litigated as to its substance over the summer, and miraculously made the news at this particular moment--when ol' Harvey is getting raked. And did you notice who is representing this victim?

[guido911]

The winner.  Apparently Trump didnt like being reminded that a dark-skinned territory was his responsibility too.

Someone we havent heard from in a while.  Who? You'll find out.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/10/media/jon-stewart-colbert-donald-trump/index.html

I won't say that I am comfortable or that I praise all the ways that he managed the issue, but I will tell you that everything that the president said that he was going to send to the island, it's getting there. The resources are there. The help is there.

He instructed all his cabinet members to treat Puerto Rico as a state, in terms of this hurricane. I mean, that kind of instruction is important to have access to all those programs.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/10/14/puerto_rico_delegate_everything_that_weve_asked_for_trump_has_provided.html

[erfalf]

For whatever reason  the San Juan mayor experiences are looking more and more like an outlier and not the norm. Weird.

[swake]

For whatever reason  the San Juan mayor experiences are looking more and more like an outlier and not the norm. Weird.

Based on what?

http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/16/news/economy/puerto-rico-unemployment/index.html

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-puerto-rico-aid-20171014-story.html

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/article178945411.html

[Townsend]

Sorry that doesn't wash, only 50% of Houston's population is white.  67% of New Orleans is Black.  South Florida is chock full of minorities.

Yeah but Trump didn't know that.

When he visits his resorts/hotels in those places he rarely sees anything but white people.

When he thinks of PR he thinks of José Feliciano.

[swake]

In the 1899 census, one year after the U.S invaded and took control of the island, 61.8% of the people self-identified as White. In the 2010 United States Census the total of Puerto Ricans that self-identified as White was 75.8% or 2,825,100 out of the 3,725,789 people living in Puerto Rico.[33][44][45] down from 80.5%[46] in the 2000 Census.[44]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Ricans#White

You needed to keep going with that demographic profile. The island is 99% Hispanic/Latino.

http://www.indexmundi.com/puerto_rico/demographics_profile.html