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« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2012, 08:27:30 am » |
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If these facilities are owned by the city, then the proposed tax shouldn't be billed as one for AA. It should be billed as a "Tulsa Taxpayer Owned Facilities, Maintenance and Investment" tax, or "Tulsa Facilities, Maintenance and Investment" tax. Also, why would AA or any other company want to spend millions improving something they would not own? There is only so much work I would do to a place I was renting.
I agree with you as far as the labelling of the tax. However, it is quite common for renters to improve premises they do not own and are not reimbursed for those improvements. Often times the landlord specifically notes that the improvements may not be reversed or taken with the renter. Just a cost of doing business. |
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« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2012, 09:42:26 am » |
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I agree with you as far as the labelling of the tax. However, it is quite common for renters to improve premises they do not own and are not reimbursed for those improvements. Often times the landlord specifically notes that the improvements may not be reversed or taken with the renter. Just a cost of doing business.
Most commercial leases are triple net, meaning the tenant is responsible for maintenance, etc. However, not sure a buiding like this can be considered a "normal" lease. Problem is, it is all about leverage in the negotiations. |
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« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2012, 03:57:28 pm » |
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"Does the County think we residents are stupid?"
Yes, they do. Why do you ask?
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« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2012, 04:46:07 pm » |
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If I was pretty sure it'd be up for sale in the near future I'd want to make it was sellable.
Yep. And also paint it the color that potential buyers might like. Enough metaphoring.... |
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« Reply #34 on: May 24, 2012, 09:07:55 am » |
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There are many among of us beside the county think us as stupid who have become intoxicated by the pink gas drifting out of the glass tower, including those who promoted the buying of a city hall and being landlord of others businesses in the building, that dictated the terms of the building use which prohibited a sign being placed on the property designating it as also the city hall. This while evacuating the former paid for city hall building , paid for by taxing the aged and working poor which was sold for near a tenth of the appraised value, that was touted as to be our permit city hall, in a transaction that will cost the citizens multi-millions of dollars.
City/County is to raise the tax monies to support a business that is unable to conduct a business in a profitable manner in a building given to the city by the Feds, at the cities request, when Douglas sought to purchase the building for millions in order to continue their manufacturing of air planes in Tulsa.
It’s now a possible that half of AA employees do not live and spend in the City/County but in other Cities and Counties. And we are going to increase our out of pocket expenses to support jobs for these outsourced cities and counties?
The price of most of the necessities for support such as utilities, food and clothing has increased for 10 to 100% over the past year. Since the sales taxes are tied to the retail prices then the sale taxes (the out of pocket expenses to survive) have increased that 10 to 100% and when we talk about extending a sales tax that was voted on that had a predetermined life, we increase the sales taxes (out of pocket expense) on the aged, working poor, retires and etc.
AA was supposed to be an accredited business. Now if that be true they should stand on their own feet not those of the citizen by increasing the citizen’s out of pocket expenses. It they were to leave the city would restructure its self and continue to grow
Now anyone who don’t think we are stupid it is time to stand up.
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« Reply #35 on: May 24, 2012, 09:21:54 am » |
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When I was a young teen, a local gasoline station (Pemco I think) humorously advertised that they used pink air in their compressors so that patrons could readily identify leaks in their tires.
Lots of people believed in it.
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« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2012, 09:28:24 am » |
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When I was a young teen, a local gasoline station (Pemco I think) humorously advertised that they used pink air in their compressors so that patrons could readily identify leaks in their tires.
Lots of people believed in it.
Worked at a bar with "Free beer tomorrow" tacked behind me on a sign. Some brainiacs came in the next day and were angry that it was once again "free beer tomorrow". I believe they later became Oklahoma representatives. |
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« Reply #37 on: May 24, 2012, 09:30:08 am » |
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Worked at a bar with "Free beer tomorrow" tacked behind me on a sign.
Some brainiacs came in the next day and were angry that it was once again "free beer tomorrow".
I believe they later became Oklahoma representatives.
Sully was a regular? |
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« Reply #38 on: May 24, 2012, 09:31:28 am » |
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Sully was a regular?
None of them were once they were angered by the sign...and my look of disdain. |
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« Reply #39 on: May 24, 2012, 11:15:11 am » |
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When I was a young teen, a local gasoline station (Pemco I think) humorously advertised that they used pink air in their compressors so that patrons could readily identify leaks in their tires.
Lots of people believed in it.
Did you let some air out to see it? |
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« Reply #40 on: May 24, 2012, 11:27:51 am » |
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Did you let some air out to see it?
I probably did! BTW, it was actually FINA who ran the promotion. Cute, but overestimated the scientific knowledge of its customers. |
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« Reply #41 on: May 24, 2012, 11:33:41 am » |
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I probably did! BTW, it was actually FINA who ran the promotion. Cute, but overestimated the scientific knowledge of its customers.
I don't remember FINA stations back east. I'm sure we had some goofy promotion gimmicks but I don't remember any at the moment. |
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« Reply #42 on: May 24, 2012, 11:54:59 am » |
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I probably did! BTW, it was actually FINA who ran the promotion. Cute, but overestimated the scientific knowledge of its customers.
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