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« Reply #3375 on: June 11, 2018, 03:31:32 pm » |
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Lol...again, falling back on the ole Tried and True Fake Fox News methodology. If ya can't think of anything past the first sentence, call names, disparage people!
The message was so much more than just about Trump and goes back long before he was in anyone's view. Goes to when one of the last REAL Republicans was President and his warnings to us. Will let you figure out which one....
It's Eisenhower of course, but you and he just make the mistake of thinking it is a Republican problem. The last person that really took a stand to it ended up dead in the street. Neither one of you can hide your partisan hackery. |
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« Reply #3376 on: June 11, 2018, 03:37:28 pm » |
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I am almost tempted to try to look that up, but am half afraid it would be something with Breadburner in it and could never be unseen!!
Never fear...unless you go skinny dipping in Canadian waters. The Winnipeg Wang Snapper is known for its aggressive behaviour and voracious appetite. Like salmon, it breeds in fresh water, then migrates to the sea, returning to fresh water to breed. So if you're skinny dipping, no place is truly safe. I had to look that up. Really. I never lie. |
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« Reply #3377 on: June 11, 2018, 03:37:58 pm » |
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I am almost tempted to try to look that up, but am half afraid it would be something with Breadburner in it and could never be unseen!!
I think it's made up; I searched and nothing.... |
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« Reply #3378 on: June 11, 2018, 03:49:32 pm » |
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It's Eisenhower of course, but you and he just make the mistake of thinking it is a Republican problem. The last person that really took a stand to it ended up dead in the street. Neither one of you can hide your partisan hackery.
Projection. Deflection. Disparagement. No mistake - he understood perfectly. Shame you can't learn from him. Eisenhower as partisan hack...amazing! The guy arguably most responsible for the military leadership taking us to victory in the biggest war ever fought. And keeping us on a course that continued the broadest improvement in quality of life in the history of the country - in the history of the world. Yeah, partisan hack is what I would call him too...! Do you look like Trump, too?? |
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« Reply #3379 on: June 11, 2018, 03:53:02 pm » |
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Projection. Deflection. Disparagement. No mistake - he understood perfectly. Shame you can't learn from him.
Eisenhower as partisan hack...amazing! The guy arguably most responsible for the military leadership taking us to victory in the biggest war ever fought. And keeping us on a course that continued the broadest improvement in quality of life in the history of the country - in the history of the world. Yeah, partisan hack is what I would call him too...!
Do you look like Trump, too??
No you and Chom are hacks. Sorry for the misleading reply. You act as if it is a partisan issue. The fact that he may be on to something is one thing, but he and you are delusional in your belief that only one side stands for/against it. Just look where the political contributions from the "actors" (Boeing/Lockheed/Gen Dyn/Raytheon) went to. Donations seem to be pretty bi-partisan if you ask me. Not by accident either. Once trump got the vote, Boeing and LM were all on board sending huge checks to the inauguration fund. Eisenhower had reservations obviously but considering the time period (right after a huge donkey war) it was likely difficult to ascertain the true position. Kennedy appeared to resist, to no avail unfortunately. Who since has done anything to really mitigate the circumstances? |
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« Reply #3380 on: June 11, 2018, 04:34:37 pm » |
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No you and Chom are hacks. Sorry for the misleading reply. You act as if it is a partisan issue. The fact that he may be on to something is one thing, but he and you are delusional in your belief that only one side stands for/against it. Just look where the political contributions from the "actors" (Boeing/Lockheed/Gen Dyn/Raytheon) went to. Donations seem to be pretty bi-partisan if you ask me. Not by accident either. Once trump got the vote, Boeing and LM were all on board sending huge checks to the inauguration fund.
Eisenhower had reservations obviously but considering the time period (right after a huge donkey war) it was likely difficult to ascertain the true position. Kennedy appeared to resist, to no avail unfortunately. Who since has done anything to really mitigate the circumstances?
Clinton, until the Republican congress took it back, if memory serves me correctly. |
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Projection. Deflection. Disparagement. No mistake - he understood perfectly. Shame you can't learn from him.
Eisenhower as partisan hack...amazing! The guy arguably most responsible for the military leadership taking us to victory in the biggest war ever fought. And keeping us on a course that continued the broadest improvement in quality of life in the history of the country - in the history of the world. Yeah, partisan hack is what I would call him too...!
Do you look like Trump, too??
Have you purchased those knee pads yet..  ..The C.j.C. is counting on you...!!!! |
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« Reply #3382 on: June 11, 2018, 04:41:09 pm » |
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Have you purchased those knee pads yet.. ..The C.j.C. is counting on you...!!!! Oopppssss.... slipped back a grade to 6th grade dropout. You must be libertarian...certainly is the epitome of your development. |
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« Reply #3383 on: June 11, 2018, 05:09:48 pm » |
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So everyone went home and blamed the other guy. Shocking. Shocking I tell you.
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« Reply #3384 on: June 11, 2018, 05:28:02 pm » |
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Not talking about the act of meeting - talking about the BS being spewed about how this is something new - we have talked to NK for decades. And the fact that there were no conditions - the ones you mentioned had conditions associated before actual action.
I should have said what I was thinking much better- no one seems to be aware of a sit down between the two country's leaders since WWII or the Korean War era. Anyone who even has half an interest in national news knows there's been a game of nuclear Pyongyang (get it ping pong?) for quite some time. |
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« Reply #3385 on: June 11, 2018, 06:08:04 pm » |
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I should have said what I was thinking much better- no one seems to be aware of a sit down between the two country's leaders since WWII or the Korean War era. Anyone who even has half an interest in national news knows there's been a game of nuclear Pyongyang (get it ping pong?) for quite some time.
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« Reply #3387 on: June 12, 2018, 06:34:10 am » |
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Clinton, until the Republican congress took it back, if memory serves me correctly.
I don't think it served you correctly. Unless you are suggesting a 5% reduction in budget is standing up to them in some significant way. Probably accidentally so considering Clinton's slightly more advanced finance/budgeting mind. Unless Hillary represented a major shift from Bill that is. She was easily the favored candidate. However that may largely be due to the presumption of her winning. |
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« Reply #3388 on: June 12, 2018, 07:39:10 am » |
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I don't think it served you correctly. Unless you are suggesting a 5% reduction in budget is standing up to them in some significant way. Probably accidentally so considering Clinton's slightly more advanced finance/budgeting mind.
Unless Hillary represented a major shift from Bill that is. She was easily the favored candidate. However that may largely be due to the presumption of her winning.
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« Reply #3389 on: June 12, 2018, 07:42:40 am » |
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I think you and I are talking about two different things. I thought your response was to my claim that no president since Kennedy stood up to our OWN military complex. |
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