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« Reply #210 on: November 11, 2015, 09:56:53 am » |
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I’m not a regular reader of Reddit so I forget how schizophrenic those threads are. I did manage to rip a quote that exemplifies why we have such shitty development standards in Tulsa: “Oklahoma is poor and maybe our REI wont be as nice as a wealthier states. The proposed design is about as nice as a Target or a Walmart (big box plain). But it's better than nothing. I thought that development was halted recently because the courts aren't being moved?" It’s this “better than nothing” mentality that really bugs me. We could be a trend-setter when it comes to development standards, instead, we end up with layup slab dreck. Making a project look more attractive does not end up making it unattractive due to vastly higher costs. It doesn’t take vastly higher costs, just a better design standard and imagination.
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"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first” -Ronald Reagan
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« Reply #211 on: November 11, 2015, 02:03:29 pm » |
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I’m not a regular reader of Reddit so I forget how schizophrenic those threads are.
Ugh.. tell me about it... why am I wasting my time on someone that goes by troll_face
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Townsend
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« Reply #212 on: November 11, 2015, 02:53:49 pm » |
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Ugh.. tell me about it... why am I wasting my time on someone that goes by troll_face
You yearn for approval?
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« Reply #213 on: November 11, 2015, 03:57:15 pm » |
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Could be a flagship store with the proper design..........
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« Reply #214 on: November 30, 2015, 03:09:07 pm » |
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I am a huge fan of REI. Want the store to hurry up and open so I can go shopping there...
They did the best thing for people as a whole this year that I have heard of in a long time - they were closed on Black Friday! Said to go outdoors and have some fun!! So I did....
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"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?" --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.
I don’t share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently. I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.
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« Reply #215 on: December 03, 2015, 09:29:27 am » |
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« Reply #216 on: December 03, 2015, 12:21:13 pm » |
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Bynam must know that this will wreck much of the support he needs for water in the river.
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Conan71
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« Reply #218 on: December 03, 2015, 01:25:56 pm » |
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I’m impressed with the number of former city officials and board members who believe this has merit. There are also other people on the list of signees whom I respect greatly.
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"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first” -Ronald Reagan
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« Reply #219 on: December 04, 2015, 10:43:49 am » |
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If somehow this gets shot down and the parkland preserved I will have renewed confidence in Tulsa leaders. Already a good year with Simon abandoning Turkey Mountain and CVS not being able to rubber stamp a crappy design for a mixed-use corridor on Utica.
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patric
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« Reply #220 on: December 11, 2015, 10:19:37 am » |
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This was put on the TPFA agenda just last night... permitting the public to comment at TODAYS 2PM meeting room 295 at city hall.
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"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights." -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum
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« Reply #221 on: December 11, 2015, 10:38:48 am » |
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This was put on the TPFA agenda just last night... permitting the public to comment at TODAYS 2PM meeting room 295 at city hall.
I'm not an expert - but I thought an agenda for a public meeting required 48 hours notice and must be POSTED 24 hours before the meeting. Maybe I'm reading it wrong? (this isn't sarcasm, there is very likely something I'm missing) . In addition to the advance public notice in writing required to be filed for regularly scheduled meetings, all public bodies shall, at least twenty-four (24) hours prior to such meetings, display public notice of said meeting, setting forth thereon the date, time, place and agenda for said meeting Oklahoma Public Meeting Act, section 533(A)(9). 25 OS 311(A)(9)Seems to be what the Attorney General has to say on the issue too... https://www.oag.ok.gov/oagweb.nsf/0/9afabc8767512a97862572b400738e39/$FILE/Open%20Meeting.pdf What good does it do to post an agenda for a meeting that is less than 24 hours away? Reducing the number of participants by, what, 90%? This website says it was scheduled Wednesday and is a "private meeting" with their attorney followed by a period for public comment. http://www.newson6.com/story/30724744/tulsa-public-facilities-authority-to-discuss-lawsuit-over-helmerich-parkI'm confused. Someone who knows more about open meeting requirements, chime in!
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« Reply #222 on: December 11, 2015, 12:16:43 pm » |
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I heard that the sale of the land is not to REI but to a developer that hopes to lease to REI. The exact language is more vague stating that it should be developed as an outdoor sporting goods store.
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« Reply #223 on: December 11, 2015, 12:42:49 pm » |
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This was put on the TPFA agenda just last night... permitting the public to comment at TODAYS 2PM meeting room 295 at city hall.
So if I walk over to room 295 will I be let in for public comment or will I be told "private"?
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« Reply #224 on: December 11, 2015, 05:45:05 pm » |
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So if I walk over to room 295 will I be let in for public comment or will I be told "private"?
With little or no notice of the meeting... TULSA, Okla. — The Tulsa Public Facilities Authority voted Friday to obtain legal counsel from the City of Tulsa to represent itself in a lawsuit over the future of Helmerich Park. The TPFA entered into a lease with a developer to build a high-end sporting goods store reported to be an REI at the southwest corner of 71st and Riverside in south Tulsa. Construction was expected to begin this month, but legal battles have hindered the construction process from beginning. The legal battles are over if the mayor and the TPFA actually have possession over the land and can give it away from its current use as a park. Opponents have argued that the park belongs to the City of Tulsa and city councilors should have had a bigger role in the lease.
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