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« Reply #1590 on: December 15, 2011, 11:23:24 am » |
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OK, but you're not refuting my point that Tea Partyists are as nutty as OWS.
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« Reply #1591 on: December 15, 2011, 11:40:02 am » |
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OK, but you're not refuting my point that Tea Partyists are as nutty as OWS.
Am I nutty? Okay, I am. |
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« Reply #1592 on: December 15, 2011, 11:45:02 am » |
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Am I nutty? Okay, I am.
Wasn't that settled yesterday about this time?  |
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« Reply #1593 on: December 15, 2011, 11:52:22 am » |
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OK, but you're not refuting my point that Tea Partyists are as nutty as OWS.
I personally never saw any photos of Tea Partiers crapping on a cop car or a burning American flag. You also didn't hear about any rapes or other sexual assaults, drug use, or anti-semitic rhetoric at TP rallies. |
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« Reply #1594 on: December 15, 2011, 12:01:59 pm » |
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I personally never saw any photos of Tea Partiers crapping on a cop car or a burning American flag. You also didn't hear about any rapes or other sexual assaults, drug use, or anti-semitic rhetoric at TP rallies.
As I said earlier, in my value system, crapping on a cop car and burning an American flag are far better things than being a racist or saying racist things. As for no anti-semites at tea party rallies, look up stormfront. To be fair, mainstream tea partiers don't seem to have an anti-semitic streak, but nor do the mainstream of the OWS protesters, which is why you get scenes like this:  |
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« Reply #1595 on: December 15, 2011, 12:20:57 pm » |
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As I said earlier, in my value system, crapping on a cop car and burning an American flag are far better things than being a racist or saying racist things. As for no anti-semites at tea party rallies, look up stormfront. To be fair, mainstream tea partiers don't seem to have an anti-semitic streak, but nor do the mainstream of the OWS protesters, which is why you get scenes like this: Main stream Tea Partiers aren't racist, IMO. There are certainly racists in any bunch and it's certainly not limited to white conservatives. It never ceases to amaze me though how the press and the simple-minded manage to step over very obvious racist rhetoric from black Democrats in their effort to paint all conservatives as being racist. |
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« Reply #1596 on: December 15, 2011, 12:28:28 pm » |
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Main stream Tea Partiers aren't racist, IMO. There are certainly racists in any bunch and it's certainly not limited to white conservatives. It never ceases to amaze me though how the press and the simple-minded manage to step over very obvious racist rhetoric from black Democrats in their effort to paint all conservatives as being racist.
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« Reply #1597 on: December 15, 2011, 12:34:53 pm » |
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Think diode.
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« Reply #1598 on: December 15, 2011, 12:37:17 pm » |
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I've never been good at electronics Check valve. |
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« Reply #1599 on: December 15, 2011, 12:44:57 pm » |
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Check valve.
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« Reply #1600 on: December 15, 2011, 12:57:40 pm » |
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Think diode.
Like Wiley Diodey? |
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"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?" --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.
I don’t share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently. I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.
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« Reply #1601 on: December 15, 2011, 12:58:04 pm » |
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The Tea Party is now two years old. OWS is is a few months old. I think the biggest contrast is that the rap sheet for OWS is well over 400 incidents long, and varies from assault, rape, vandalism, conspiracy, theft, destruction of public property, and larceny. The level of crime against people, threats against the government, attempts to disrupt commerce, cyber crime, and lewd displays of hatred don't just exist in the form of claims, they are documented in film and video and on the internet for everyone to see. They are their own worst enemy, not just because of their intellect, but because of the fact that they are willing to document their actions. They march with signs supplied to them by, or crafted after symbology and slogans of the ISO, or WWP, without any understanding of the message they are sending. They are pawns. That's why I've used the term "brownshirts" to describe them.         The origin of the primary logo is:  http://www.internationalsocialist.org/I guess the worst part for us (and ultimately them) is to have all these winey liberals sticking up for them by claiming that the movement is not socialist, not based on entitlement, that it's a movement very similar to the Tea Party, and that these people want opportunity. They do not want opportunity, they want "FAIRNESS," and they want it enforced! |
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« Reply #1602 on: December 15, 2011, 03:47:50 pm » |
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So, Gaspar, you disagree that this sign accurately represents what has been happening for the last couple of years, both here and abroad? |
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« Reply #1603 on: December 15, 2011, 03:54:36 pm » |
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So, Gaspar, you disagree that this sign accurately represents what has been happening for the last couple of years, both here and abroad? It's pretty hyperbolic |
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« Reply #1604 on: December 15, 2011, 04:01:40 pm » |
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So, Gaspar, you disagree that this sign accurately represents what has been happening for the last couple of years, both here and abroad? There are several statements, signs, slogans that I can agree with OWS on. I am not in favor of bailouts for failing businesses, and I am not in favor of the government funneling money to useless stimulus programs to satiate a donor. Just because they offer a sprinkling of liberty, in no way gives reason for me to agree with all of the tenants of the movement. Hitler was an environmentalist, he enacted The Reich Nature Protection Act, but that doesn't mean you're going to become a Nazi! |
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