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#91
Development & New Businesses / Re: PAC Master Plan / Expansio...
Last post by dbacksfan 2.0 - February 28, 2025, 12:16:18 PM
Quote from: swake on February 28, 2025, 08:03:54 AMWith free curbside pickup and nearly free delivery do physical grocery stores even look like they are going to matter in the future? Kroger has recently entered the OKC market and they don't even have physical stores.

I've done the curbside pickup a couple of times with Fry's (Kroger) and it's not free, there is a built in charge for them picking your groceries and bring them to your car. Same at Walmart.

Seems it's ok for packaged stuff, but I want to choose my veggies and meat products not someone else. Personal preference. Besides I always have a list that I shop by and sometimes find something that I missed on the list.
#92
Development & New Businesses / Re: PAC Master Plan / Expansio...
Last post by Red Arrow - February 28, 2025, 10:31:46 AM
Quote from: swake on February 28, 2025, 08:03:54 AMWith free curbside pickup and nearly free delivery do physical grocery stores even look like they are going to matter in the future? Kroger has recently entered the OKC market and they don't even have physical stores.

Have to have some place to store the food.  Do you just mean no store for the customer to walk in to?

I like to see the fresh veggies and produce when I buy them.  If you are a typical American and eat nothing but heavily processed, pre-packaged, food I guess never going into a store would be OK.

Even then, the websites that I have seen for Aldi, Sprouts, Target, Reasor's and Walmart will need to become a lot more user friendly.  I say that based on trying to find things like fresh green beans.

Curbside only could be good for consumers' budgets if they are prone to impulse buying something they see on the aisles.

 
#93
Development & New Businesses / Re: PAC Master Plan / Expansio...
Last post by swake - February 28, 2025, 08:03:54 AM
With free curbside pickup and nearly free delivery do physical grocery stores even look like they are going to matter in the future? Kroger has recently entered the OKC market and they don't even have physical stores.
#94
Development & New Businesses / Re: PAC Master Plan / Expansio...
Last post by SXSW - February 27, 2025, 01:03:56 PM
This is a better plan than what they originally proposed.  I hope they can build the larger portion, the theatre to the east with parking underneath, first so they don't have to shut down the PAC for three years. 

Now the question is where does the downtown grocery store go if this site is out of play? 
#95
Development & New Businesses / PAC Master Plan / Expansion
Last post by Dspike - February 27, 2025, 11:32:45 AM
The PAC's recently announced master plan seems sufficiently different and new to warrant its own thread. The PAC parking lot thread focused on the mixed use / grocery store project that died in 2023.

Here is the Tulsa World article with a few renderings of the PAC's hopes and dreams, including:
* Major upgrades to existing facility
* New pre and post function amenities
* 60,000 sq ft addition to the west, taking up half of the park space.
* PAC parking lot to the east would house a 1,400 seat structure; underground parking garage
* Skybridge between existing building and new structure on PAC parking lot

To do everything would close the PAC for 3 years during construction.

Looks like all they need is money!

https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/government-politics/article_197bf71e-f47e-11ef-b0c4-8b23e76e2a11.html#tracking-source=home-top-story
#96
PlaniTulsa & Urban Planning / Re: New Tulsa Interstate (US-4...
Last post by dbacksfan 2.0 - February 26, 2025, 12:39:44 PM
Quote from: patric on February 25, 2025, 01:39:08 PMAs of this week, no construction between Tulsa And Siloam Springs.

It took what 12 or 13 years to complete 169 from 21st to the BA Expressway and even longer to complete HWY 11 from Sheridan to US 75? I'd say they're right on schedule.
#97
PlaniTulsa & Urban Planning / Re: New Tulsa Interstate (US-4...
Last post by patric - February 25, 2025, 01:39:08 PM
As of this week, no construction between Tulsa And Siloam Springs.
#98
Development & New Businesses / Re: Western Supply warehouses...
Last post by Urban Enthusiast - February 24, 2025, 05:18:04 PM
It's looking good!  It's quite substantial. 
#99
Other Local Reviews / Re: Solar Installers
Last post by patric - February 21, 2025, 11:46:30 AM

QuoteBipartisan Support for Solar Tax Credits: Solar tax credits have enjoyed bipartisan support for years. For instance, during his last term, President Trump signed legislation in 2020 that extended the solar tax credits rather than allowing them to expire. This demonstrates a long-standing recognition of solar energy's benefits to our economy and national security.

You have to remember Trump is transactional; his flip-flops are only one brown paper bag of money away.
He supported Ukraine right up until he tweeted Zelenskyy was "A Dictator without Elections!!"

Electricity isnt getting any cheaper no matter how much drilling we do, and electric reliability is at the mercy of mother nature. We are way behind the curve on renewable energy compared to most of the world.
#100
Development & New Businesses / Re: Western Supply warehouses...
Last post by SXSW - February 21, 2025, 11:15:33 AM
Progress at Western Supply, should be complete by next spring