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Post by: brunoflipper on April 26, 2008, 08:10:01 AM
parking right across from the arena is neat...

the interior is pomodoris... nice unpretentious atmosphere...

the live jazz was great...

the chorizo perogis were basically totinos pizza rolls...
the quail egg truffled bread was tasty...

the house salad and beet carpaccio were good...

the filet was perfect and the chantrelle demi-glace was excellent... the garlic mashed taters were good as welll...

my wifes red snapper and chips was horrible...
both fish dishes at the table were completely overcooked... mama was not happy....

heard the bread pudding is excellent but we were stuffed...

excellent service...

two drinks each and the total came to $110 per couple... not cheap, not insane...

i'd give it another go because of location and atmosphere but the wife will take some convincing...

Title: sochey= so, so
Post by: TUalum0982 on April 26, 2008, 12:26:50 PM
quote:
Originally posted by brunoflipper

parking right across from the arena is neat...

the interior is pomodoris... nice unpretentious atmosphere...

the live jazz was great...

the chorizo perogis were basically totinos pizza rolls...
the quail egg truffled bread was tasty...

the house salad and beet carpaccio were good...

the filet was perfect and the chantrelle demi-glace was excellent... the garlic mashed taters were good as welll...

my wifes red snapper and chips was horrible...
both fish dishes at the table were completely overcooked... mama was not happy....

heard the bread pudding is excellent but we were stuffed...

excellent service...

two drinks each and the total came to $110 per couple... not cheap, not insane...

i'd give it another go because of location and atmosphere but the wife will take some convincing...





not insane? wow! I understand you pay for atmosphere but I have never dropped 110 dollars for dinner (that I have had to pay atleast).  Especially for items that were overcooked.  I guess our lifestyles are different, but to me 110 dollars on something that is going to exit my body in 12hrs isn't worth it.
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Post by: Renaissance on April 26, 2008, 01:33:48 PM
How was the music?
Title: sochey= so, so
Post by: brunoflipper on April 26, 2008, 02:36:23 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Floyd

How was the music?

the live music was great...
Title: sochey= so, so
Post by: brunoflipper on April 26, 2008, 02:38:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982

quote:
Originally posted by brunoflipper

parking right across from the arena is neat...

the interior is pomodoris... nice unpretentious atmosphere...

the live jazz was great...

the chorizo perogis were basically totinos pizza rolls...
the quail egg truffled bread was tasty...

the house salad and beet carpaccio were good...

the filet was perfect and the chantrelle demi-glace was excellent... the garlic mashed taters were good as welll...

my wifes red snapper and chips was horrible...
both fish dishes at the table were completely overcooked... mama was not happy....

heard the bread pudding is excellent but we were stuffed...

excellent service...

two drinks each and the total came to $110 per couple... not cheap, not insane...

i'd give it another go because of location and atmosphere but the wife will take some convincing...





not insane? wow! I understand you pay for atmosphere but I have never dropped 110 dollars for dinner (that I have had to pay atleast).  Especially for items that were overcooked.  I guess our lifestyles are different, but to me 110 dollars on something that is going to exit my body in 12hrs isn't worth it.

to each his own...
we often hit that 50 per person for drinks, apps, salads and entrees level at any number of places we eat... but we are picky...
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Post by: OkieDiva on April 27, 2008, 10:22:32 PM
Bruno - wonderful info! You sound like my kind of food fan.

What are some of your other favorites? Any Brookside/Cherry Street haunts? Husband and I shun chains, love local and midtown...

Keo, Lucky's both good,
Still miss (the short-lived) Gill's,
Not a fan of the reworked Chalkboard,
Brasserie great, but an infrequent splurge.

Wondering if there's anything we're missing? I have a feeling you'd know.
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Post by: brunoflipper on April 27, 2008, 11:15:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by OkieDiva

Bruno - wonderful info! You sound like my kind of food fan.

What are some of your other favorites? Any Brookside/Cherry Street haunts? Husband and I shun chains, love local and midtown...

Keo, Lucky's both good,
Still miss (the short-lived) Gill's,
Not a fan of the reworked Chalkboard,
Brasserie great, but an infrequent splurge.

Wondering if there's anything we're missing? I have a feeling you'd know.


we love keo...
the wife is a luckys fan...

weve always been pleased with the garlic rose...
but hands down, the palace is hard to beat...

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Post by: jtcrissup on April 28, 2008, 09:05:19 AM
quote:
Originally posted by brunoflipper

parking right across from the arena is neat...

the interior is pomodoris... nice unpretentious atmosphere...

the live jazz was great...

the chorizo perogis were basically totinos pizza rolls...
the quail egg truffled bread was tasty...

the house salad and beet carpaccio were good...

the filet was perfect and the chantrelle demi-glace was excellent... the garlic mashed taters were good as welll...

my wifes red snapper and chips was horrible...
both fish dishes at the table were completely overcooked... mama was not happy....

heard the bread pudding is excellent but we were stuffed...

excellent service...

two drinks each and the total came to $110 per couple... not cheap, not insane...

i'd give it another go because of location and atmosphere but the wife will take some convincing...





Thanks as well Bruno...I have been trying to convince the wife to give it a try.  This is some good ammo to get her there.

OkieDiva-

Some other places worth trying (we also try to vote with our dollars and frequent local restaurants):

Lucky's is our favorite place, and we don't make it to Palace often enough.  Both on Cherry St.

Kilkenny's (Also Cherry St.) is awesome...I was in the UK not long ago and they "nailed" it on atmosphere AND food.  Irish breakfast is like every breakfast I had in the UK.  

Tucci's (Cherry St again) is great, but small and they "frown" on young'ns.  We got snubbed there a few weeks ago at 6pm with only 1 other table in place saying "they can't seat us anywhere because it is a bar area over here and the non-bar area is reserved for a 'big party'".  Alas, we may go back anyway...but I plan to try Ciao (Brookside) first, I hear they are great as well, and often have live music.

We have eaten at Keo's, and it was nice, but to be honest, the food was to be desired (by me).  I like Vietnamese food, and I have ordered vermicelli salad at every place I have ever gone and this was the first time it tasted like soy sauce...over the top killed the taste of everything else.  My wife loves their Thom Kai though, so I am sure we will be back, just not for the vermicelli salad.  The Mekong River (behind Toys R Us on 71st and Memorial) is the best vermicelli salad in town hands down.  Location sucks, but vermicelli awesome = return often.

Lanna Thai (51st/Harvard) is the best Thai food in town.  I have tried all kinds of new and interesting stuff there and it is never "americanized".

Fuji (Brookside) is the best sushi around.  I like it better than In the Raw and Tsunami for several reasons...some of those reasons are why people LOVE In The Raw and/or Tsunami, but to each their own.

Lola's (Brady) is great...we used to frequent it for lunch, but last time we went for lunch it looked like they switched to dinner only...someone please tell me it ain't so?!?

Local Table (south Brookside) great food, local ingredinets/menu changes to suit, local chef/family run.  Great atmosphere, reasonable prices.  Home run night out!

I am sure there are others...would love to hear what others have.
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Post by: jtcrissup on April 28, 2008, 09:26:11 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982

quote:
Originally posted by brunoflipper

parking right across from the arena is neat...

the interior is pomodoris... nice unpretentious atmosphere...

the live jazz was great...

the chorizo perogis were basically totinos pizza rolls...
the quail egg truffled bread was tasty...

the house salad and beet carpaccio were good...

the filet was perfect and the chantrelle demi-glace was excellent... the garlic mashed taters were good as welll...

my wifes red snapper and chips was horrible...
both fish dishes at the table were completely overcooked... mama was not happy....

heard the bread pudding is excellent but we were stuffed...

excellent service...

two drinks each and the total came to $110 per couple... not cheap, not insane...

i'd give it another go because of location and atmosphere but the wife will take some convincing...





not insane? wow! I understand you pay for atmosphere but I have never dropped 110 dollars for dinner (that I have had to pay atleast).  Especially for items that were overcooked.  I guess our lifestyles are different, but to me 110 dollars on something that is going to exit my body in 12hrs isn't worth it.



I agree, $55/person is high, and we hit that mark on special occasions now and again, but I would guess you could still eat at this place for half that if you cut out alcohol/apps and don't order an expensive entree.  We usually can eat well for about $20-40/person at a number of similar places in Tulsa, and would guess there would be no problem getting in under that amount at SoChey...am I wrong Bruno?
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Post by: OkieDiva on April 28, 2008, 11:28:15 AM
Wonderful ideas, thanks much BrunoFlipper and jtcrissup. I always forget about Tucci and The Palace, for some reason.

Unfortunately, Fuji is on the banned list. Forever banned. Worst service I have ever had, and I eat out regularly, tip well and am quite tolerant of "relaxed" service. But when one member of your party FINISHES their food and noone else's has even arrived, even after you've flagged down your waiter and a hostess, and the manager just looks at you and shrugs when you complain... well, that gets it on the banned list.

Is Lanna Thai staying put or will it be displaced by I-44 widening?
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Post by: jtcrissup on April 28, 2008, 12:54:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by OkieDiva



Is Lanna Thai staying put or will it be displaced by I-44 widening?



Haven't heard, but I imagine that whole center is gone.  They do have a location at 71st and Memorial (old Tulsa Brewery location) that I am sure we will switch over to if they don't re-locate in mid-town.  It is a nice place (been in there once).

Sorry to hear about your bad Fuji experience...I agree that being treated poorly is worth banning a place.  Tucci's is on our s-list for awhile for the way we were treated, but I don't have the heart to say banned forever...
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Post by: riverman on April 28, 2008, 01:11:37 PM
yes! mekong's vermicelli salad is the best in town! worth the trip. great pho, too - also the best I have tried in tulsa.
Tucci's - don't understand the appeal at all. food was mediocre (didn't try the pizza). patio was nice.
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Post by: jtcrissup on April 28, 2008, 01:29:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by riverman


Tucci's - don't understand the appeal at all. food was mediocre (didn't try the pizza). patio was nice.



Got engaged there, which holds a lot of the appeal for us (sentimental value and such).  Also, we like the pizza/salad for two with a bottle of wine on the patio.  Very relaxing on a nice evening.
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Post by: Gaspar on April 28, 2008, 01:34:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by OkieDiva

Wonderful ideas, thanks much BrunoFlipper and jtcrissup. I always forget about Tucci and The Palace, for some reason.

Unfortunately, Fuji is on the banned list. Forever banned. Worst service I have ever had, and I eat out regularly, tip well and am quite tolerant of "relaxed" service. But when one member of your party FINISHES their food and noone else's has even arrived, even after you've flagged down your waiter and a hostess, and the manager just looks at you and shrugs when you complain... well, that gets it on the banned list.

Is Lanna Thai staying put or will it be displaced by I-44 widening?



I agree on the Brookside Fuji!  I've been a Fuji fan for years, and the service and food at the origional location are second to none, but the Brookside Fuji has been bad from day one!

We've had the exact same experience.
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Post by: brunoflipper on April 28, 2008, 02:17:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by jtcrissup

quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982

quote:
Originally posted by brunoflipper

parking right across from the arena is neat...

the interior is pomodoris... nice unpretentious atmosphere...

the live jazz was great...

the chorizo perogis were basically totinos pizza rolls...
the quail egg truffled bread was tasty...

the house salad and beet carpaccio were good...

the filet was perfect and the chantrelle demi-glace was excellent... the garlic mashed taters were good as welll...

my wifes red snapper and chips was horrible...
both fish dishes at the table were completely overcooked... mama was not happy....

heard the bread pudding is excellent but we were stuffed...

excellent service...

two drinks each and the total came to $110 per couple... not cheap, not insane...

i'd give it another go because of location and atmosphere but the wife will take some convincing...





not insane? wow! I understand you pay for atmosphere but I have never dropped 110 dollars for dinner (that I have had to pay atleast).  Especially for items that were overcooked.  I guess our lifestyles are different, but to me 110 dollars on something that is going to exit my body in 12hrs isn't worth it.



I agree, $55/person is high, and we hit that mark on special occasions now and again, but I would guess you could still eat at this place for half that if you cut out alcohol/apps and don't order an expensive entree.  We usually can eat well for about $20-40/person at a number of similar places in Tulsa, and would guess there would be no problem getting in under that amount at SoChey...am I wrong Bruno?


oh yeah, sure... we kind of went balls out since it was our first time there (three drinks each, two apps and the guys both got the filet- which was the priciest thing on the menu)...
definitely, give it a go...
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Post by: RecycleMichael on April 28, 2008, 02:43:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by brunoflipper
oh yeah, sure... we kind of went balls out since it was our first time there (three drinks each, two apps and the guys both got the filet- which was the priciest thing on the menu)...
definitely, give it a go...



How come you never buy my dinner at one of these fancy places?

Everything in my life is bought from either Family Dollar, Dollar General or the dollar menu.
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Post by: brunoflipper on April 28, 2008, 03:27:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

quote:
Originally posted by brunoflipper
oh yeah, sure... we kind of went balls out since it was our first time there (three drinks each, two apps and the guys both got the filet- which was the priciest thing on the menu)...
definitely, give it a go...



How come you never buy my dinner at one of these fancy places?

Everything in my life is bought from either Family Dollar, Dollar General or the dollar menu.

you find out if there will be 9,000 square ft of event space in the bok next spring for a charity auction (i'm thinking on one of the causeways... they look huge)...
and you've got a deal... unless, they want some insane amount... in which case, we'll make they mayor pay for it...

i figure if anyone can figure out who to call, you can....
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Post by: RecycleMichael on April 28, 2008, 03:38:59 PM
Call these guys...

http://www.smgtulsa.com/

The guy in charge is John Bolton.
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Post by: inteller on April 28, 2008, 07:13:12 PM
pancakes did you find there to bring a $110 tab?  i was there and came out with like a $30 for 2.  unless their drinks are made of liquid gold that is bull****.
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Post by: brunoflipper on April 28, 2008, 08:13:04 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

pancakes did you find there to bring a $110 tab?  i was there and came out with like a $30 for 2.  unless their drinks are made of liquid gold that is bull****.

30$ for two? did you have saltines and water? live it up a little, son...

are you calling me a liar?

the beers were 5 bucks and the wine 6- we had 6 beers and two glasses of wine for the table...

the perogies are 9.95, the quail egg truffled bread was about the same...

the three salads were like 6 bucks each...

the two filets were 28.95 each...
the two fish and chips were 23.95 each...

you do the math...
turns out, they may have missed something...
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Post by: Conan71 on April 28, 2008, 10:06:04 PM
$28.95 is not a bad price for a filet in an upscale joint, so long as it's cooked right.  $23.95 for fish & chips is flat insane if you are talking fish & chips like at Paddy's or White Lion.

I can see though how the tab got high, but your wine was cheap.  Can't believe how much the wine part of our tab was when we ate at local table.

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Post by: brunoflipper on April 28, 2008, 10:27:02 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

$28.95 is not a bad price for a filet in an upscale joint, so long as it's cooked right.  $23.95 for fish & chips is flat insane if you are talking fish & chips like at Paddy's or White Lion.

I can see though how the tab got high, but your wine was cheap.  Can't believe how much the wine part of our tab was when we ate at local table.



it was not really fish and chips... it was pan-seared red snapper with a tomato meuniere (fish), a side of tri-colored pommes frites (chips) and roasted spaghetti squash.

and the filet was perfect...

i may be off on the wine cost but that is my recollection... we just split it 50/50... so i did not pay that close attention...
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Post by: OkieDiva on April 28, 2008, 10:40:19 PM
Stop, Bruno, stop... you had me at "meuniere."

Next thing, you're going to be whispering about lardons. Murmuring to us about kobe beef. Teasing us with tales of camebert, white asparagus and Meyer lemons. And swimsuit season is almost here. Sadist.
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Post by: macke on April 29, 2008, 04:25:52 PM
You get what you pay for.....So Chey has delicious food, drinks, and atmosphere....IT IS FINE DINING not a bar and grill so it is not suppossed to be cheap-o.  Also, you are getting the live music as well!  The music is fabulous...everyone should check it out.  
So. Chey Jazz Cafe
LOCATED IN THE ARENA DISTRICT
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Post by: inteller on April 29, 2008, 07:19:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by brunoflipper

quote:
Originally posted by inteller

pancakes did you find there to bring a $110 tab?  i was there and came out with like a $30 for 2.  unless their drinks are made of liquid gold that is bull****.



the beers were 5 bucks and the wine 6- we had 6 beers and two glasses of wine for the table...




well right there is the problem.  markup on liquor in this town is ridiculous.
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Post by: Steve on April 29, 2008, 07:43:34 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

quote:
Originally posted by brunoflipper

quote:
Originally posted by inteller

pancakes did you find there to bring a $110 tab?  i was there and came out with like a $30 for 2.  unless their drinks are made of liquid gold that is bull****.


the beers were 5 bucks and the wine 6- we had 6 beers and two glasses of wine for the table...


well right there is the problem.  markup on liquor in this town is ridiculous.



Right inteller, but markup on liquor at local OK liquor stores is not so bad compared to other states.  I think OK distilled liquor prices as well as wine, are very reasonable compared to surrounding states.  Learn how to cook a decent meal, and buy the alcohol at the local liquor store.  You will be the rave of your friends for your hospitality skills, and save 50% off the cost of entertaining at a restaurant!
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Post by: inteller on April 29, 2008, 08:09:44 PM
well, but you can get some very good and cheap margs at Senor Tequilas (on 71st) that will **** you up for only $3-4 a pop.

I don't mind paying for mixed drinks because you are paying partially for bartender talent...but to pay $6 for someone to pour a glass of wine is ridiculous.
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Post by: Renaissance on April 29, 2008, 08:59:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

I don't mind paying for mixed drinks because you are paying partially for bartender talent...but to pay $6 for someone to pour a glass of wine is ridiculous.



Agreed.  What Oklahoma needs are laws allowing consumption in retail wine stores.  That would allow for "retail wine bars" where you walk in, select a bottle from the shelf, sit down and have it opened for you to drink.  I'm a huge fan of these establishments elsewhere.  You can get appetizers, even meals, and your wine is like 1/3 the cost of some other restaurants.
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Post by: safetyguy on April 30, 2008, 07:10:15 AM
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Agreed.  What Oklahoma needs are laws allowing consumption in retail wine stores.  That would allow for "retail wine bars" where you walk in, select a bottle from the shelf, sit down and have it opened for you to drink.  I'm a huge fan of these establishments elsewhere.  You can get appetizers, even meals, and your wine is like 1/3 the cost of some other restaurants.
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Didn't the state just pass something to allow this to happen? I thought I read that a few weeks back in the TW.