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Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: buzz words on March 24, 2008, 07:45:40 PM
I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid and Target Vs Walmart.

It appears if Wal-mart or Target is mentioned the complaint is about security and employee treatment.

It appears if Reasors or Food Pyramid is mentioned the complaint is about high prices..

Can a company run on cheap prices like Wal-Mart and Offer Great Security Like Target and appreciate their employees like Quick Trip?

Maybe that's the company that should build a grocery store?

What's your opinion?
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: RecycleMichael on March 25, 2008, 12:39:35 AM
Thanks for asking my opinion...

It depends.
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: YoungTulsan on March 25, 2008, 02:22:58 AM
QT is great on employee treatment (codeword for pay & benefits) and pretty good on security (cameras, astute employees, police often on premesis), and high on prices.

Things do cost more at QuikTrip, people just don't usually complain about them.

The deal with QT is that people are glad to pay the high prices for the benefit of the quick transaction.  QT is truly a "convenience store".

In my opinion, I realize prices are higher, but I pay them gladly at QT, because they ensure good service.  Every time I go to Wal-mart, I have to wait a long time because they are grossly understaffed.  And for a place like Wal-mart, whom obviously possesses extensive research and data on consumer habits, should know good and well how much to staff for particular days and times.
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: Kashmir on March 25, 2008, 08:36:53 AM
I am finding myself buying more and more items @ Wild Oats, and I find if i wait in line, I really don't care, b/c the atmosphere is so friendly.  Food Pyramid, meh, Reasors I go in to buy 2 items...Hell on the Red salsa and Texas Toast.  The rest I buy @ Sams (meat, etc).  And I get really mad waiting in line @ Sams!
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: sgrizzle on March 25, 2008, 08:42:40 AM
I buy any bulk foods at Fadler's as well as occasionally participate in the cost-saving "angel food" program. I found I was breaking even at best with Sams due to the membership fee and the fact many of the large size items were available on normal store shelves now. Not to mention easy items like pop cost more at Sams. I buy from local farmer's markets when available and the rest from some mix of homeland/food pyramid/target.
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: Gaspar on March 25, 2008, 08:48:52 AM
We never have much of a wait at Sams.  If the line is long they usually come by and scan everything so we can just zip through.  

We usually go to Walmart neighborhood market for food and Sams for the big stuff and meat.

Family of 3 we spend about $45-$60 a week on groceries.  We only eat out once a week.  I must admit, my wife has gotten pretty good at living on a budget.

I do miss the days of caviar and truffles!  But it's worth having a full time parent for our little girl!
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: cks511 on March 25, 2008, 09:00:55 AM
Warehouse Market - West 51st and Union-ish.  Big aisles, very clean, security on site, short lines, competitive prices and some lower, organic foods and sometimes some excellent looking fresh meat.  Otherwise, Petty's.
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: Kashmir on March 25, 2008, 09:07:15 AM
Hang in there Gaspar!  I started being a SAHM 4 years ago, and in that time my husbands salary had doubled and we have bought a larger home, and are actually now looking to move again and buy Mr. K his coveted Charger.  So it works out great.


I forgot about Fadlers!  We bought steaks there for Easter and they were AWESOME!  I buy a lot in bulk and use the trusty Food Sealer to zap it up.
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: Ibanez on March 25, 2008, 10:10:52 AM
We shop at Reasor's more than anywhere else mostly because of the convenience and the consistent quality. Their meat is always good and though some of their prices might be a little higher it all evens out when you consider what it would cost to drive somewhere else.

We also shop at Wild Oats when we can, but it is a bit too far out of the way for us most of the time. I really wish they would build one, or a Whole Foods, further South or Southeast.

I haven't been impressed with Food Pyramid at all. Wal-Mart? Forget it.... I may go in there for an item or two, but Wal-Mart is not what I think of when I think of a grocery store.
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: inteller on March 25, 2008, 11:01:03 AM
quote:
Originally posted by cks511

... security on site...



this should not have to be a concern.  If so you live and shop in the wrong part of town.
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: inteller on March 25, 2008, 11:02:10 AM
quote:
Originally posted by wavoka



I really wish they would build one, or a Whole Foods, further South or Southeast.




a little birdie told me one is coming to the south.
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: Cirage on March 25, 2008, 11:10:18 AM
We primarily shop at Reasors (15th & Lewis) since it's the closest grocery store near our part of town.  I have no complaints about price nor quality.  I've even found that their scripts tend to be cheaper than wal-mart (maybe I've just been lucky).
Some other Reasors farther east seem a little sketchy though.
For several years I lived in a Homeland only town so my expectations are admittedly a little low.
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: citizen72 on March 25, 2008, 11:12:13 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Kashmir

I am finding myself buying more and more items @ Wild Oats, and I find if i wait in line, I really don't care, b/c the atmosphere is so friendly.  Food Pyramid, meh, Reasors I go in to buy 2 items...Hell on the Red salsa and Texas Toast.  The rest I buy @ Sams (meat, etc).  And I get really mad waiting in line @ Sams!



My wife and I shopped at Wild Oats for the first time last weekend. We really enjoyed ourselves and was impressed with the quality of the fresh food and oh their cheeses, WOW! Super friendly helpful staff.

Bought some aged cheddar cheese imported from Ireland and it is delicious. Even found the beet juice we had been trying to find. We will go back again soon.
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: cks511 on March 25, 2008, 11:23:11 AM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

quote:
Originally posted by cks511

... security on site...



this should not have to be a concern.  If so you live and shop in the wrong part of town.



ahhhh inteller, I knew I could draw you out of your southern cavern....LOL
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: custosnox on March 25, 2008, 01:52:36 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

quote:
Originally posted by cks511

... security on site...



this should not have to be a concern.  If so you live and shop in the wrong part of town.



No security at your grocery store?  Ohh goody, we can let the theives know where some easy marks are at.
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: Kashmir on March 25, 2008, 02:02:44 PM
I think at the south Tulsa stores, the teens n' tweens only try to lift the high ticket items.  Not a pack of Wrigley, but Altiods, if you will.[:O]

Snort...remembering some quote of Sgrizzle's about "some kid sticking Christina Auguillera down their pants" heehee
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: Ibanez on March 25, 2008, 03:02:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

quote:
Originally posted by wavoka



I really wish they would build one, or a Whole Foods, further South or Southeast.




a little birdie told me one is coming to the south.



That would be nice...any idea where?
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: Conan71 on March 25, 2008, 11:24:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Cirage

We primarily shop at Reasors (15th & Lewis) since it's the closest grocery store near our part of town.  I have no complaints about price nor quality.  I've even found that their scripts tend to be cheaper than wal-mart (maybe I've just been lucky).
Some other Reasors farther east seem a little sketchy though.
For several years I lived in a Homeland only town so my expectations are admittedly a little low.



Cirage, that's the closest grocery to my house (15th & Lewis), but it's usually my last resort since it became Reasor's.  I think Reasor's is stupid expensive on their Angus beef.  That's the worst-hyped excuse to over-price beef I've ever seen.

Truth be known, I get better t-bones and rib-eyes from Warehouse Market on the west side.

Reasor's to me seemed like they got real expensive for awhile- especially the one next to Target at 16th & Yale.  I'm sure it's phychological on my part and you could buy the same list at every grocer around town and wind up with about a $10 diff from highest to lowest.

Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: hvt1274 on March 28, 2008, 11:05:48 PM
I'd much rather shop at Reasors then have to walk into a wal-mart.  Their prices are cheaper if they aren't out of what you are looking for and if you need to read that magazine article.....completely, while waiting in the checkout line. Additionally, the meat selection at Reasors (71st and Lynn Lane in BA) is great, and well stocked.  The sushi, found in the deli section, is AWESOME!
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: music_artist on April 04, 2008, 04:50:23 PM
wal-mart aint the end all for groceries that so many folks believe it to be. their prices are rarely the lowest, and they offer fewer choices than either food pyramid or reasors. w.m. does not stock, for example, either the always save or best choice brand products, both of which are distributed from the same parent company, and both of which are well represented by the other two stores. w.m. sells their own private label of some products, and then a few national brands. their check-out lines are almost always long, their stores dimly lit, and when trouble ensues, as it often does, the remedy often takes a long while to occur. w.m. aint the same as it was when sam was in charge, for darn sure!

Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: Radar on April 05, 2008, 12:25:26 AM
Don't buy meat at WalMart...it's just bad news.
That said, we just threw away 3 lbs. of hamburger that we bought from Reasor's last weekend at 71st & Sheridan.
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: godboko71 on April 05, 2008, 02:36:11 AM
A year ago, maybe even as little as 6 months ago I would say the lest expensive place to shop for non fresh items was walmart by far, but as they phase out there off brand products they are also inching there prices up slightly on all goods (more so then other stores.)

I would say the best bet is just smart sales shopping from the circulars and smart coupon usage. Warehouse Market and Reasors are the best places for meats (at a reasonable price) with Food Pyramided a very close third.

Location does matter though for both Reasors and Warehouse Market for your meat shopping, I find the WM on 49st West, the one in sand springs, and the newer one on Garnete have the best selection and the best cuts. Reasors I would say the one on 71st and Sheridan or the one on 15th.

No matter what no store is really better then the other its all about smart shopping, oh and using bulk shopping in areas it matters doesn't hurt, miss my sams card.
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: joiei on April 05, 2008, 04:27:23 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Radar

Don't buy meat at WalMart...it's just bad news.
That said, we just threw away 3 lbs. of hamburger that we bought from Reasor's last weekend at 71st & Sheridan.

I don't like the meat at Target either.  When you open the package most times it has an off smell.
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: mrsgrizzle on April 06, 2008, 05:01:08 AM
My dear husband forgot to mention that we also shop Homeland since I have learned the ins and outs of couponing. I have recently been saving between 50-75% on staple groceries by shopping sales with coupons and stocking up at Homeland. I prefer to use my coupons there because they double coupons up to $1 value everyday and occasionally have triple coupon days at select locations. The most recent triple day at 31st & Harvard resulted in $200 worth of groceries for $50. That means a lot to a family of four on a budget!

We do purchase meat from Fadler's or Target mostly.  We do not shop Walmart at all. Food Pyramid and Reasor's are our closest stores though, so we do immediate-need shopping there. Once my meal planning gets better, hopefully we will be able to reduce/eliminate immediate-need shopping.  

I will say that Tulsa is seriously lacking in the grocery store department. I shopped at a Kroger Signature store in DFW late last year and it was heavenly. The prices were comparable to current prices here in Tulsa and the store was beautifully laid out with a grand selection of items.

I grew up in Shreveport, LA where we had Brookshire's, Kroger (standard, not signature), Albertson's and Walmart. They now have a SuperTarget as well, and the Albertson's is gone (like most are).

On my wishlist also is CVS. Does anyone know if they plan to move in to Tulsa and compete? I love their ExtraCare Bucks program.
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: sauerkraut on April 06, 2008, 02:10:23 PM
Not to slam Tulsa stores, but the food stores in Tulsa are very small comapired to stores elsewhere. here in Ohio we have Meijers a huge food store with low prices and we have everything... "Aldi" to "food For less" for cut rate prices and large food stores like Kroger & Giant Eagle that are like Resoners but much larger.
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: sauerkraut on April 06, 2008, 02:35:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mrsgrizzle

My dear husband forgot to mention that we also shop Homeland since I have learned the ins and outs of couponing. I have recently been saving between 50-75% on staple groceries by shopping sales with coupons and stocking up at Homeland. I prefer to use my coupons there because they double coupons up to $1 value everyday and occasionally have triple coupon days at select locations. The most recent triple day at 31st & Harvard resulted in $200 worth of groceries for $50. That means a lot to a family of four on a budget!

We do purchase meat from Fadler's or Target mostly.  We do not shop Walmart at all. Food Pyramid and Reasor's are our closest stores though, so we do immediate-need shopping there. Once my meal planning gets better, hopefully we will be able to reduce/eliminate immediate-need shopping.  

I will say that Tulsa is seriously lacking in the grocery store department. I shopped at a Kroger Signature store in DFW late last year and it was heavenly. The prices were comparable to current prices here in Tulsa and the store was beautifully laid out with a grand selection of items.

I grew up in Shreveport, LA where we had Brookshire's, Kroger (standard, not signature), Albertson's and Walmart. They now have a SuperTarget as well, and the Albertson's is gone (like most are).

On my wishlist also is CVS. Does anyone know if they plan to move in to Tulsa and compete? I love their ExtraCare Bucks program.

I agree. Tulsa's "Warehouse Mart" and "Homeland" seem like old stores from the 1960's with no updates. Old freezers and store coolers and racks. The only "modern like" store I know of in Tulsa aside from Wal-mart Foods is Reasors and they are small and don't offer much. Oklahoma also taxes food, that takes some getting use-to.
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: joiei on April 06, 2008, 04:24:10 PM
How much of that space is taken up by non-food items, like tv's, dvd's, furniture, sporting goods, etc.  The Reasor's at 15th and Lewis got rid of all that junk and added 3 more isles of real groceries when they bought it from Albertsons.  I do not mind that the stores might not be as large, I am glad that they focus on groceries.

And we do have Aldi's, I do not shop there, it is not close enough to me to consider.  They seem to concentrate more on the suburbs instead of trying to make a presence in the city center.  They are kind of small and sort of funky to me.  Clean, but they have too much Walmart style non-groceries.  Not even WM Neighborhood Markets have that stuff.  WM NM's do have a very large section of cosmetics and stuff like that.  But I think Reasor's has a better overall selection and they are much more responsive to bring in items they do not currently carry.
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: godboko71 on April 06, 2008, 04:38:07 PM
Kroger is just like Reasors and Albersons, or at least all the ones I have been to have been. I hated the ones in TX, but thats just me.

Homeland is ok, but after there money problems in the late 90's early 00's they just stopped really mattering. Though for coupons they are one of the better places to use them as link someone already mentioned.

I hope Food Pyramid will special order stuff still like Albersons used to. If not at least Reasors is still pretty good at doing that food people.
Title: I am confused about the Reasors Vs. Food Pyramid
Post by: TulsaFan-inTexas on April 06, 2008, 06:05:33 PM
Walmart's produce is kind of rancid if you ask me. Of course, I've only gone in there a couple of times. Target has decent quality produce, but I get most of my stuff at Kroger. I don't know if Kroger operates up in Oklahoma, but their Signature store that is near us here in the DFW megopolis has very reasonable prices, good produce, good qualities and selections of meat, and excellent service. I never wait more than a minute or two.

quote:
Originally posted by wavoka

We shop at Reasor's more than anywhere else mostly because of the convenience and the consistent quality. Their meat is always good and though some of their prices might be a little higher it all evens out when you consider what it would cost to drive somewhere else.

We also shop at Wild Oats when we can, but it is a bit too far out of the way for us most of the time. I really wish they would build one, or a Whole Foods, further South or Southeast.

I haven't been impressed with Food Pyramid at all. Wal-Mart? Forget it.... I may go in there for an item or two, but Wal-Mart is not what I think of when I think of a grocery store.