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Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: sgrizzle on March 20, 2008, 11:00:40 PM
To the persons with nothing better to do than dig through the trash in my glovebox or snag some pennies from my ashtray, I have nothing you want. Please go home and get a life.

I'm about ready to move somewhere safe, like 1st and Denver.

/end rant

P.S. Shouldn't the police answer when you call the non-emergency line?
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: RecycleMichael on March 20, 2008, 11:09:39 PM
I keep a pair of gloves in mine. I believe in following rules.
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: TUalum0982 on March 21, 2008, 05:25:13 AM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

To the persons with nothing better to do than dig through the trash in my glovebox or snag some pennies from my ashtray, I have nothing you want. Please go home and get a life.

I'm about ready to move somewhere safe, like 1st and Denver.

/end rant

P.S. Shouldn't the police answer when you call the non-emergency line?



you would think they would.  Maybe because they know its a "non-emergency" they won't answer in hopes that you call 911?
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: AngieB on March 21, 2008, 06:35:09 AM
When I had a convertible and left the top down for any length of time, the glovebox and center console invariably got pilfered. And heaven forbid you should lock the glovebox...that's when it would be pried open. But don't dare LOCK a convertible, because that is an invitation to get your top slashed.

Now that I have a hard top, I keep the car locked and no problems.

People suck.
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: we vs us on March 21, 2008, 06:35:54 AM
Well.  Sounds like you've had annoying morning already.  

And it being Good Friday and all!
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: tulsacyclist on March 21, 2008, 07:39:18 AM
Sometimes I have a gun in mine, but usually only if I'm in the car. Otherwise it's on my person. If it's left there when I'm not in the car (like going into an constitutionally unfriendly building) it is always locked.

I dislike glovebox diggers.
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: TURobY on March 21, 2008, 08:17:16 AM
I work in near 41st and I-44, and had someone smash out my window just to go through my center console, glovebox, and my box of crap in the backseat. Oddly enough they left everything, including my checkbook (with all the checks) and my cash (a $10 'emergency' bill).

I was scratching my head for weeks...
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: cannon_fodder on March 21, 2008, 08:22:28 AM
Someone pried into my trunk and stole my guitar case one time.  Dumb jerks, the guitar was sitting in plain site on my back seat at the time.  Annoying, but worth the $35 to show what an idiot that guy was.

Better still, when I lived in a *really* bad area someone threw a rock through my car window at about 5:30am and tried to take my room mates golf clubs (guy golfed for the University, so these meant something to him more than a set of cheap sticks).  Hearing the crash (about 10 feet from my head really) I looked out and saw him reaching in my back seat (dumb to leave them in plain view, I know... but we got back from "golfing" and may have played the 19th - 25th holes), I shouted at my room mate that someone was stealing his clubs.  Who proceeded to jump off the couch in his boxers and fly out the door (yes, he slept on the couch, this was in a super ghetto trailer park.  5:30am or noon, it was so well lit it didn't matter - lit in all senses of the word).  

I was getting pants on, when I finally got outside my room mate was taking off down the street.  The thief was maybe 15 feet ahead of him, trying to carry the clubs while running and one or two shook our of the bag.  My room mate grabbed an iron from the ground and flung it at the guy in a seething fit of rage - which ending up tripping him movie style (I'm standing on our deck about 25 yards behind, deciding if I should chase or what the propper course of action was).  The guy goes down, golf clubs everywhere, face plant.  Gets up and runs off holding his nose - leaving the clubs scatters around the bag.

So there is my room mate, bracketed by a street light - half naked, hair all wild looking (the way too much gel morning after look), standing in the middle of the road with a golf club in his hand watching some bleeding probably neighbor run down the middle of the street.  In front of him is a mess of clubs, a small blood splatter, and what looked to be the bottom half of a front tooth.

That was awesome.  Though, I was somewhat fearful that the guy would come back some sort of retaliation.  He never did, but I didn't get back to sleep either.  What a jerk.

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Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: tulsacyclist on March 21, 2008, 08:41:47 AM
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

Someone pried into my trunk and stole my guitar case one time.  Dumb jerks, the guitar was sitting in plain site on my back seat at the time.  Annoying, but worth the $35 to show what an idiot that guy was.

Better still, when I lived in a *really* bad area someone threw a rock through my car window at about 5:30am and tried to take my room mates golf clubs (guy golfed for the University, so these meant something to him more than a set of cheap sticks).  Hearing the crash (about 10 feet from my head really) I looked out and saw him reaching in my back seat (dumb to leave them in plain view, I know... but we got back from "golfing" and may have played the 19th - 25th holes), I shouted at my room mate that someone was stealing his clubs.  Who proceeded to jump off the couch in his boxers and fly out the door (yes, he slept on the couch, this was in a super ghetto trailer park.  5:30am or noon, it was so well lit it didn't matter - lit in all senses of the word).  

I was getting pants on, when I finally got outside my room mate was taking off down the street.  The thief was maybe 15 feet ahead of him, trying to carry the clubs while running and one or two shook our of the bag.  My room mate grabbed an iron from the ground and flung it at the guy in a seething fit of rage - which ending up tripping him movie style (I'm standing on our deck about 25 yards behind, deciding if I should chase or what the propper course of action was).  The guy goes down, golf clubs everywhere, face plant.  Gets up and runs off holding his nose - leaving the clubs scatters around the bag.

So there is my room mate, bracketed by a street light - half naked, hair all wild looking (the way too much gel morning after look), standing in the middle of the road with a golf club in his hand watching some bleeding probably neighbor run down the middle of the street.  In front of him is a mess of clubs, a small blood splatter, and what looked to be the bottom half of a front tooth.

That was awesome.  Though, I was somewhat fearful that the guy would come back some sort of retaliation.  He never did, but I didn't get back to sleep either.  What a jerk.

[edi]typos[/edit]


Great story - thanks for sharing.
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: Gaspar on March 21, 2008, 10:03:09 AM
We have the occasional kid stealing radar detectors out of unlocked cars, and some prankish vandalism in our neighborhood.  Nothing big.

One of the things that we've done is get to know some of the police officers that live in and around the neighborhood.  My wife has their cell phone #s.  

We use those numbers instead of 911 for minor stuff, and BAM!  They are there in minutes with sirens blaring!  Funny how a cop will scream across town from 1st and Detroit to 81st and Harvard when someone in his neighborhood hollers.

I wish our police were given beats or zones.  It seems like it would make more sense to have police with a vested interest in the community that they serve.  They do it in other cities, and have for hundreds of years.  I'm not really sure how they are scheduled now, but it seems like they cover a different areas all the time.

I can call a neighbor cop and because he knows the neighbors and who should and should not be slinking around our neighborhood, he is far more efficient at getting to the bottom of a burglary or vandalism problem than the guy that comes out takes a report and then disappears.

If we had a beat system or some form of police zoning where officers were active in the communities, I think we would have a more effective system.  I also think that the police should get out of their cars and walk around a bit, or ride a bike or go door to door a couple time a week and just introduce themselves.  



Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: Ed W on March 21, 2008, 10:15:10 AM
Late in the evening after an all-day pub crawl, I had finally had enough and could drink no more.  Yes, I was much younger and tons more foolish.  It was a winter night in Pennsylvania and the temperature was well below freezing.  Rather than drive home, I went out to the car, crawled onto the back seat, and pulled a full bag of laundry over me to stay warm.  Fortunately, it was clean laundry.  I went to sleep.

Sometime later, I woke up as the passenger door opened.  A guy was rifling through the glove box using the dome light to see, when suddenly the bag of laundry sat up and said, "Hiya buddy!"

He should have entered the Olympics.  That guy could really run!
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: sgrizzle on March 21, 2008, 06:42:44 PM
A coworker of mine performed in a lot of bowling tournament, and was just recently on the outs with his (now ex) wife. Because of this his entire life was in his Jeep cherokee. While bowling at riverlanes, his window was smashed and his laptop stolen. They left the laptop bag, which was fortunate for him, because it contained every dime he had, about $6,500 in cash.

Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: Conan71 on March 21, 2008, 11:56:14 PM
Prolly cursing myself by saying anything, but I've been fortunate regarding crime.  I had a '68 El Camino for my first car.  That was last year of dash-mount ignition switches (easy to hot-wire) in GM products.  Someone tried to steal it one night in '82 or so.  A blast out of a .410 shotgun into the night air brought that crime to a halt.  FAIK, that's the last time a stranger has been in a vehicle or domicile of mine.

Here's a great deterent to glove box thieves- squirt some Vaseline into a condom and put it in a plastic bag.  Put one in your glovebox and another in your console, if you have one.  One glance or feel of that and people will flee.


Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: TUalum0982 on March 22, 2008, 07:44:18 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Gaspar

We have the occasional kid stealing radar detectors out of unlocked cars, and some prankish vandalism in our neighborhood.  Nothing big.

One of the things that we've done is get to know some of the police officers that live in and around the neighborhood.  My wife has their cell phone #s.  

We use those numbers instead of 911 for minor stuff, and BAM!  They are there in minutes with sirens blaring!  Funny how a cop will scream across town from 1st and Detroit to 81st and Harvard when someone in his neighborhood hollers.

I wish our police were given beats or zones.  It seems like it would make more sense to have police with a vested interest in the community that they serve.  They do it in other cities, and have for hundreds of years.  I'm not really sure how they are scheduled now, but it seems like they cover a different areas all the time.

I can call a neighbor cop and because he knows the neighbors and who should and should not be slinking around our neighborhood, he is far more efficient at getting to the bottom of a burglary or vandalism problem than the guy that comes out takes a report and then disappears.

If we had a beat system or some form of police zoning where officers were active in the communities, I think we would have a more effective system.  I also think that the police should get out of their cars and walk around a bit, or ride a bike or go door to door a couple time a week and just introduce themselves.  







not trying to get off topic here but in response to your post, each division (UDE, UDSW and UDN) all have different squads (adam, baker, charlie squad, and so forth and so on).  Each person in that squad has their own beat.  It might not look like it when you just see cops driving around but they have certain blocks and areas that is their area.  So if a call comes in for their area, they are generally assigned to that call.  If they are not available, the next person in their squad gets it.  You should go do a ride-a-long with TPD and see how it works.  You would be amazed at how much these officers know just by driving by a certain person, car, or house.  They can tell you who lives there, if they have been in prison, how long they have been in prison, how long they have been out, what crimes they have comitted and the sentence they recieved.  

In a way they already do what you have mentioned above.  They have "informants" (snitches to be honest) who have been in trouble in the past who they will go around and talk to on a daily or nightly basis and find out whats new in the neighborhood or apt complex.  If you need some names of officers whom you would like to ride with, let me know I can give you some great ones.
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: brunoflipper on March 22, 2008, 01:25:30 PM
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Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: TUalum0982 on March 22, 2008, 02:46:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by brunoflipper

The glove compartment is inaccurately named
And everybody knows it
So I'm proposing a swift orderly change

Because behind it's door
There's nothing to keep my fingers warm
And all I find are souvenirs from better times
Before the gleam of your taillights fading east
To find yourself a better life

but anywho...
nothing like coming home from a week in the rockies to find nearly every power tool in your garage missing... all told, we lost $5000 worth of stuff... the cops said it was an isolated incident and probably someone who knew the house and the detached garage contents...

luckily, they did not get into the house...

oh well... now we get to deal with our homeowners insurance... yeehaw...

they should call it "spring break-in"...
and how is your saturday?



Sorry to hear about that.  That is pretty crappy.  For that exact reason, I keep my garage door closed at all times, you never know who could be driving by seeing all the stuff that people keep in their garage.  Not saying you did keep it open, but they say most people don't even realize that they are showing anyone who drives by the contents of their garage and it only takes a few seconds to swipe weed eaters, lawn mowers, tools, etc.  Good luck with the insurance company.
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: PonderInc on March 22, 2008, 03:57:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Here's a great deterent to glove box thieves- squirt some Vaseline into a condom and put it in a plastic bag.  Put one in your glovebox and another in your console, if you have one.  One glance or feel of that and people will flee.


This is like "Hints from Heloise" for the truly deranged.  How's that work for you in the summertime?  (I used to use Carmex lip balm in the little jars.  Then, one hot summer day, I unscrewed the cap and spilled hot liquid Carmex all over my lap.)
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: Conan71 on March 22, 2008, 07:48:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by PonderInc

This is like "Hints from Heloise" for the truly deranged.  



Would you expect ANYTHING different considering the source? [}:)]
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: Steve on March 24, 2008, 08:38:31 PM
My "glove box" contains an ice scraper, a tire pressure gauge, my car's owner's manual and leatherette folder with major repair receipts saved over the years, and my liability insurance verification cards.  That is all, never any gloves.  I guess the term is a left-over from the early days of auto history.

Sorry for your break-in experience sgrizzle.  I am lucky in that I have never experienced an auto break-in.  I know many of the neighbors surrounding my house have had car break-ins, window breaking, radio stealing, and other vandalism over the past several years, but not me.  I guess my 1993 Oldsmobile 98 is not worth the effort, or more likely, I have just been lucky.
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: sgrizzle on March 24, 2008, 09:26:05 PM
I've had one car vandalized by teenagers who got my car confused with someone else's. I had the back window smashed in another vehicle and it's contents dug through. I've also had unlocked vehicles rifled through 3 times.

Glad I live somewhere with low crime like South Tulsa... LOL
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: inteller on March 24, 2008, 09:35:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

I've had one car vandalized by teenagers who got my car confused with someone else's. I had the back window smashed in another vehicle and it's contents dug through. I've also had unlocked vehicles rifled through 3 times.

Glad I live somewhere with low crime like South Tulsa... LOL



let me guess, you have a garage but it is too full of useless **** to park your vehicle in.....
....or, your big honkin truck is too large to fit in the garage.

either way, I see DOWNSIZING as a way to cure your security problems.
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: Steve on March 24, 2008, 09:50:30 PM
Inteller does make a valid point.  I know of many of the homes surrounding me that have original garages intact that are so full of useless junk, they could not get a car in there for "love nor money."  If they would just clean out their garage of unused "stuff," they would have ample indoor parking and minimalize the chance of vandalism.

As for me and many other homes in my neighborhood, some of our garages were converted to living space 40+ years ago.  I have a 2-car carport built onto the front of my home in the 1960s, after the original 2-car garage was converted to living space.  My car has covered parking, but not indoor parking.  That does not excuse the actions of thugs and vandals, and so far I have been lucky to not experience their actions for the past 22 years I have lived in my midtown Tulsa home.
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: inteller on March 25, 2008, 07:21:00 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Steve

Inteller does make a valid point.  I know of many of the homes surrounding me that have original garages intact that are so full of useless junk, they could not get a car in there for "love nor money."  If they would just clean out their garage of unused "stuff," they would have ample indoor parking and minimalize the chance of vandalism.



I laugh every time it hails I laugh because I think about my next door neighbors and their brand new Tahoe getting pummeled.  What is ridiculous is after every such event you'll see them the next weekend making a feeble attempt to clean **** out of the garage.  And of course every time they just give up because they just can't give up the **** that is obviously worth more than their cars.

i wish my HOA would enforce garage parking.  parking your car outside is the first step towards the downwards ghettofication of your neighborhood.
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: custosnox on March 25, 2008, 09:30:03 AM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

To the persons with nothing better to do than dig through the trash in my glovebox or snag some pennies from my ashtray, I have nothing you want. Please go home and get a life.

I'm about ready to move somewhere safe, like 1st and Denver.

/end rant

P.S. Shouldn't the police answer when you call the non-emergency line?



I've lost four windows in a years time period.  I've had them shot out, bricks thrown through them, beer bottles chunked at em, and just busted out because they were too much of idiots to be able to get in with a slim jim (or a screw driver trying to pry off the lock cylinder) so that they can get my stereo.  The last time they did it, I chased em down the road in the middle of the night wearing nothing but shorts.  If I hadn't bothered putting those on I would have caught them.  So yeah, I understand where you are coming from.

The police generally answer when I call the non-emergancy, though it's apparently the same operators as 911.  I had a drunk hit me a few weeks ago so I called 911.  While on the phone with them, he took off and I was told to wait on the officer to get there.  When it started to rain, I decided to call the non-emergancy to find out what was taking so long.  Got the same guy I had talked to when calling 911.  Go figure
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: custosnox on March 25, 2008, 09:36:12 AM
But yet (now that I think about it) I lived in a bad area in North Tulsa for about 6 months.  During this time, I didn't have a drivers side window (it had busted when I had closed the door one day).  For 3 months, living in the ghetto, no window, and parking on the street, no one ever got into it.  I even had a decent stereo.
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: sgrizzle on March 25, 2008, 09:59:02 AM
Parking on the street is perfectly allowable in my neighborhood. In fact, It's about half the cars in my neighborhood are on the street. My garage is largely workshop as opposed to vehicular purposes and my truck, which I have legitimate purposes for, fits in very few garages. The other vehicle, which can park in the garage, I was driving at the time of the break-in.

I can't imagine buying a house with a front driveway and then complaining when people park their cars in it.
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: inteller on March 25, 2008, 11:53:01 AM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

Parking on the street is perfectly allowable in my neighborhood. In fact, It's about half the cars in my neighborhood are on the street. My garage is largely workshop as opposed to vehicular purposes and my truck, which I have legitimate purposes for, fits in very few garages. The other vehicle, which can park in the garage, I was driving at the time of the break-in.

I can't imagine buying a house with a front driveway and then complaining when people park their cars in it.



yes, I hear these excuses from my neighbors too.  and I lack the same sympathy for them when things happen to their vehicles.

how many times will your vehicle need to be molested before you consider parking it indoors?
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: custosnox on March 25, 2008, 01:46:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

Parking on the street is perfectly allowable in my neighborhood. In fact, It's about half the cars in my neighborhood are on the street. My garage is largely workshop as opposed to vehicular purposes and my truck, which I have legitimate purposes for, fits in very few garages. The other vehicle, which can park in the garage, I was driving at the time of the break-in.

I can't imagine buying a house with a front driveway and then complaining when people park their cars in it.



yes, I hear these excuses from my neighbors too.  and I lack the same sympathy for them when things happen to their vehicles.

how many times will your vehicle need to be molested before you consider parking it indoors?



someone shouldn't have to make an "excuse" as to why they couldn't protect their property from criminals.  But as far as that goes, I park in the street too.  But it's not like I have a choice.  My living situation means that there are three vehicles, and a concession trailer.  Someone is going to be the oddball out, and it happens to be me.
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: inteller on March 26, 2008, 07:23:56 AM
well I'm so sorry, but that's the way it is.  and when the cop comes to take the report and sees a perfectly good garage not being used, he would probably say the same thing.
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: custosnox on March 26, 2008, 08:40:59 AM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

well I'm so sorry, but that's the way it is.  and when the cop comes to take the report and sees a perfectly good garage not being used, he would probably say the same thing.



No, that's not the way it is.  And the police never say anything about it.  Simply put, when you are parked, rather it be public or private property, should expect to have the saftey of your vehicle.  You saying that it is their own fault for parking in the drive or the street would be like me saying that you diserve it if your vehicle gets stolen from a parking lot because you decided to go to that store for groceries.
Title: There is nothing worthwhile in my glove box
Post by: inteller on April 03, 2008, 09:21:09 AM
quote:
Originally posted by custosnox

quote:
Originally posted by inteller

well I'm so sorry, but that's the way it is.  and when the cop comes to take the report and sees a perfectly good garage not being used, he would probably say the same thing.



No, that's not the way it is.  And the police never say anything about it.  Simply put, when you are parked, rather it be public or private property, should expect to have the saftey of your vehicle.  You saying that it is their own fault for parking in the drive or the street would be like me saying that you diserve it if your vehicle gets stolen from a parking lot because you decided to go to that store for groceries.



Apples/oranges.  You have control of your private property because you own it.  You do not have control of the property at a grocery store, the grocery store does.  A grocery store is not liable if your car is broken into, but they eventually create/incur a liability of lost sales if they do not properly secure their store parking lot.

at any rate Valley South is not exactly what one would call an up and coming neighborhood so it should not come as a surprise that you have a on street parked vehicle broken into.