I'm looking at replacing the current AWD in my stable and was wondering what people are bustling about town in.
So far I've looked at:
Acura RDX....absolutely no power. Neat gadgets but the turbo on it is small and it can't stay in the boost.
Land Rover LR2. I love it, but the wife hates the look of it.
BMW X3. Ultimate driving machine, but ultimate worst in residual value. Also the interior gadgetry sucks.
Anyone have an EX35? That's going to be what we look at next. Not too thrilled on the looks, but there is an aerodynamic kit that can cure that.
Cars that are not an option:
Anything by Chrysler, GM, Honda, Toyota, Kia, Hyundai, Saturn.
Patiently waiting for the Volvo XC60 but it wont be out until end of year at best.
I've heard nothing but good things about the Nissan Murano and you could save at around $10,000 over the others you listed (invoice $25,000). It has a Variable Transmission so there are no gears to pound through, slip, or otherwise fail.
From what I have read the EX35 is smaller and lighter than the Murano. Though the EX is on the rear wheel FM platform and the Murano is on the FFL platform both come in AWD. Otherwise, no... I haven't heard anything about the EX35 (as far as someone loving/hating it).
Is "crossover" what happened when station wagons were no longer cool?
Oh, and Saturn is GM and Kia is Hyundai - redundant on those.
and Acura is a Honda, so I guess the RDX is out.
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Originally posted by inteller
I'm looking at replacing the current AWD in my stable and was wondering what people are bustling about town in.
So far I've looked at:
Acura RDX....absolutely no power. Neat gadgets but the turbo on it is small and it can't stay in the boost.
Land Rover LR2. I love it, but the wife hates the look of it.
BMW X3. Ultimate driving machine, but ultimate worst in residual value. Also the interior gadgetry sucks.
Anyone have an EX35? That's going to be what we look at next. Not too thrilled on the looks, but there is an aerodynamic kit that can cure that.
Cars that are not an option:
Anything by Chrysler, GM, Honda, Kia, Hyundai, Saturn.
Patiently waiting for the Volvo XC60 but it wont be out until end of year at best.
I've looked at a few of these same vehicles, and agree with you. Have you considered the Lexus RX350 or RX400h? I was shocked at the pricing of the Infiniti considering it's size. The RDX is way too small and looks like a Subarau to me. The new Toyota Highlander is also really nicely put together.
I really like my Murano. Wide wheel base, low body, sturdy construction,,, dives like a smooth rolling tank on these Tulsa roads.[8D] Lexus makes a vehicle that looks very similar, dont know what the name of it is. I would just take some test drives, shop and compare.
The RX350 is an outdated design. I would like a 400h but Lexus won't deal and I'm not paying for a fancy Highlander Hybrid. Another subjective thing is it sems like EVERYONE in town has a Lexus. That brand seems to have really lost its status.
The new Murano has a terribly ugly grill that neither my wife or I can stand. I was never too enamored the looks of the old one. However, I think we will still go drive one to see how it compares to the Ford Edge (which previously trounced it)
The EX35 tops out around 45k MSRP the way I want it configured, but I expect a cash only price considerably below that. If jackie Cooper won't deal then I'll go to OKC or Springfield.
Another reason I'm holding out for the Volvo because we have two dealerships in town to compete.
Oooh now see I want one of the new Muranos. The new grill looks great to me. Looks like some sort of vicious alien creature that could sneak up on ya and bite your head off [:D] I always thought the Murano said "YP, trendy, city slicker" and now it has fangs. [8D]
The only problem is that the Murano has some sort of "urban cloaking device" which makes them completely disappear downtown...
[:D]
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
The only problem is that the Murano has some sort of "urban cloaking device" which makes them completely disappear downtown...
[:D]
yeah, I think that cloaking device consists of huffing gold paint.
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Originally posted by TheArtist
Oooh now see I want one of the new Muranos. The new grill looks great to me. Looks like some sort of vicious alien creature that could sneak up on ya and bite your head off [:D] I always thought the Murano said "YP, trendy, city slicker" and now it has fangs. [8D]
nothing really trendy about them. for trendy, get an FX35/FX37.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
The only problem is that the Murano has some sort of "urban cloaking device" which makes them completely disappear downtown...
[:D]
OK, now
that's funny!! LOL, Artist!!!
Hush, all of ya.
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Originally posted by inteller
I'm looking at replacing the current AWD in my stable and was wondering what people are bustling about town in.
So far I've looked at:
Acura RDX....absolutely no power. Neat gadgets but the turbo on it is small and it can't stay in the boost.
Land Rover LR2. I love it, but the wife hates the look of it.
BMW X3. Ultimate driving machine, but ultimate worst in residual value. Also the interior gadgetry sucks.
Anyone have an EX35? That's going to be what we look at next. Not too thrilled on the looks, but there is an aerodynamic kit that can cure that.
Cars that are not an option:
Anything by Chrysler, GM, Honda, Toyota, Kia, Hyundai, Saturn.
Patiently waiting for the Volvo XC60 but it wont be out until end of year at best.
you have pretty much listed them all above either by the ones you dont like and that you refuse to even take a look at. I would suggest trying the new Buick Enclave. Comes in fwd or awd. DVD nav system, and dvd entertainment system available. 7 or 8 seat configuration. Dual sunroofs, power heated mirros, 12 way front power heated seats. Power lift gate. They are super quiet on the highway and get decent gas mileage (currently averaging 19.5 in mine and I have a heavy foot. They are super quiet on the highway and you will be doing 80-85 before you realize it. If you are going to be that close minded about your choice of vehicle before even looking at them, you are limiting your options considerably.
here is an article from car and driver on the enclave.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/performance_files_tested_by_c_d/2008_buick_enclave_cxl_awd_short_take_road_test
The Ford Edge is a surprisingly slick little CUV. Drove one for a rental in Dallas and actually enjoyed it. They've really stepped up their quality in response to all the great imports they're up against.
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Originally posted by TheArtist
I really like my Murano. Wide wheel base, low body, sturdy construction,,, dives like a smooth rolling tank on these Tulsa roads.[8D] Lexus makes a vehicle that looks very similar, dont know what the name of it is. I would just take some test drives, shop and compare.
What kind of mileage are you getting w/ your Murano? I'm starting to get really tired of the in-town mileage on my truck. Might be getting closer to putting her into semi-retirement.
I'm looking at an X-Terra. Great reviews, actual SUV (NOT on a car frame). I need the power for boat pulling and the space for camping/dogs (need: want). It has been getting good reviews it's entire life. Since redesigned to the Titan frame in 2005 it has been getting amazing reviews.
Not a cross over, which is why I want one (spent a transmission towing the boat last year, far cheaper to upsize than do that again!).
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Originally posted by TUalum0982
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Originally posted by inteller
I'm looking at replacing the current AWD in my stable and was wondering what people are bustling about town in.
So far I've looked at:
Acura RDX....absolutely no power. Neat gadgets but the turbo on it is small and it can't stay in the boost.
Land Rover LR2. I love it, but the wife hates the look of it.
BMW X3. Ultimate driving machine, but ultimate worst in residual value. Also the interior gadgetry sucks.
Anyone have an EX35? That's going to be what we look at next. Not too thrilled on the looks, but there is an aerodynamic kit that can cure that.
Cars that are not an option:
Anything by Chrysler, GM, Honda, Toyota, Kia, Hyundai, Saturn.
Patiently waiting for the Volvo XC60 but it wont be out until end of year at best.
you have pretty much listed them all above either by the ones you dont like and that you refuse to even take a look at. I would suggest trying the new Buick Enclave. Comes in fwd or awd. DVD nav system, and dvd entertainment system available. 7 or 8 seat configuration. Dual sunroofs, power heated mirros, 12 way front power heated seats. Power lift gate. They are super quiet on the highway and get decent gas mileage (currently averaging 19.5 in mine and I have a heavy foot. They are super quiet on the highway and you will be doing 80-85 before you realize it. If you are going to be that close minded about your choice of vehicle before even looking at them, you are limiting your options considerably.
here is an article from car and driver on the enclave.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/performance_files_tested_by_c_d/2008_buick_enclave_cxl_awd_short_take_road_test
i'm not close minded. those brands were eliminated either because they are a dime a dozen, or their residual values are crap. the buick won't be worth crap in a few years because GM piles incentives on them. we keep vehicles for 6+ years and we intend to get something for them when we sell/trade.
as for the edge, I like them and will probably test drive one, but they really need an SVT version or something with more style. besides the Sync system, the interior sucks.
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by TheArtist
I really like my Murano. Wide wheel base, low body, sturdy construction,,, dives like a smooth rolling tank on these Tulsa roads.[8D] Lexus makes a vehicle that looks very similar, dont know what the name of it is. I would just take some test drives, shop and compare.
What kind of mileage are you getting w/ your Murano? I'm starting to get really tired of the in-town mileage on my truck. Might be getting closer to putting her into semi-retirement.
I drive with a lead foot so my gas mileage isnt that great I am sure. I am guessing I get about 20mpg. I occasionally put the screen on the MPG thingey and it shows what you are getting and it fluctuates at about 20mpg. I have always had cheap cars or used cars, this was my first splurge car, splurge for me anyway, I got the 35 grand model[8D]. Never actually, truly thought I could ever afford a car that expensive just with my paintings of all things and in Tulsa of all places. So I am tickled to death to have it. Usually when you get a new car in about 6 months to a year, its just transportation and the fun newness has worn off. I have had the Murano for over 2 years now and it still feels good to drive it.
I would suppose that most new cars are pretty good anymore. I would just advise someone to get the kind of car they like. That best fits your personality, the kind of look, image and functionality that fits you and your lifestyle. I see those minis and some smaller cars and think they look great. But one thing I like about my Murano is that I can just fit 3 levels of scaffolding inside and it enabled me to get rid of the old Ford van I had. And yes I have gotten some comments from my clients when I pull up in that Murano and start pulling out scaffolding lol. "Wow! now thats unexpected![:O]" lol I have never figured out if they are more shocked that scaffolding will fit in my car or that I would use a 35thou dollar Murano to haul it around in? [:P]
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Originally posted by inteller
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Originally posted by TUalum0982
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Originally posted by inteller
I'm looking at replacing the current AWD in my stable and was wondering what people are bustling about town in.
So far I've looked at:
Acura RDX....absolutely no power. Neat gadgets but the turbo on it is small and it can't stay in the boost.
Land Rover LR2. I love it, but the wife hates the look of it.
BMW X3. Ultimate driving machine, but ultimate worst in residual value. Also the interior gadgetry sucks.
Anyone have an EX35? That's going to be what we look at next. Not too thrilled on the looks, but there is an aerodynamic kit that can cure that.
Cars that are not an option:
Anything by Chrysler, GM, Honda, Toyota, Kia, Hyundai, Saturn.
Patiently waiting for the Volvo XC60 but it wont be out until end of year at best.
you have pretty much listed them all above either by the ones you dont like and that you refuse to even take a look at. I would suggest trying the new Buick Enclave. Comes in fwd or awd. DVD nav system, and dvd entertainment system available. 7 or 8 seat configuration. Dual sunroofs, power heated mirros, 12 way front power heated seats. Power lift gate. They are super quiet on the highway and get decent gas mileage (currently averaging 19.5 in mine and I have a heavy foot. They are super quiet on the highway and you will be doing 80-85 before you realize it. If you are going to be that close minded about your choice of vehicle before even looking at them, you are limiting your options considerably.
here is an article from car and driver on the enclave.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/performance_files_tested_by_c_d/2008_buick_enclave_cxl_awd_short_take_road_test
i'm not close minded. those brands were eliminated either because they are a dime a dozen, or their residual values are crap. the buick won't be worth crap in a few years because GM piles incentives on them. we keep vehicles for 6+ years and we intend to get something for them when we sell/trade.
as for the edge, I like them and will probably test drive one, but they really need an SVT version or something with more style. besides the Sync system, the interior sucks.
Any person that looks at a car as an investment really needs to take a long hard look at things again. Cars depreciate faster then anything else in this world. I understand you don't buy new cars very often, but to think of it as an investment is not very smart. The only way you can "make money" off of it after 6yrs is to make sure it has low mileage and the thing is paid off. I read an article a few months back in the USA today about the length of auto loans and how they have extended to 8yrs. If you need a car loan for 8 yrs to pay it off, maybe you should reconsider and look at something else.
It's amazing how many people get belly up on a car because they want low monthly payments, small downpayment and great interest rate. Anyways, good luck on your car search. From what you have stated you have effectively eliminated every possible SUV/CUV on the market that is worth a damn!
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Originally posted by TUalum0982
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Originally posted by inteller
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Originally posted by TUalum0982
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Originally posted by inteller
I'm looking at replacing the current AWD in my stable and was wondering what people are bustling about town in.
So far I've looked at:
Acura RDX....absolutely no power. Neat gadgets but the turbo on it is small and it can't stay in the boost.
Land Rover LR2. I love it, but the wife hates the look of it.
BMW X3. Ultimate driving machine, but ultimate worst in residual value. Also the interior gadgetry sucks.
Anyone have an EX35? That's going to be what we look at next. Not too thrilled on the looks, but there is an aerodynamic kit that can cure that.
Cars that are not an option:
Anything by Chrysler, GM, Honda, Toyota, Kia, Hyundai, Saturn.
Patiently waiting for the Volvo XC60 but it wont be out until end of year at best.
you have pretty much listed them all above either by the ones you dont like and that you refuse to even take a look at. I would suggest trying the new Buick Enclave. Comes in fwd or awd. DVD nav system, and dvd entertainment system available. 7 or 8 seat configuration. Dual sunroofs, power heated mirros, 12 way front power heated seats. Power lift gate. They are super quiet on the highway and get decent gas mileage (currently averaging 19.5 in mine and I have a heavy foot. They are super quiet on the highway and you will be doing 80-85 before you realize it. If you are going to be that close minded about your choice of vehicle before even looking at them, you are limiting your options considerably.
here is an article from car and driver on the enclave.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/performance_files_tested_by_c_d/2008_buick_enclave_cxl_awd_short_take_road_test
i'm not close minded. those brands were eliminated either because they are a dime a dozen, or their residual values are crap. the buick won't be worth crap in a few years because GM piles incentives on them. we keep vehicles for 6+ years and we intend to get something for them when we sell/trade.
as for the edge, I like them and will probably test drive one, but they really need an SVT version or something with more style. besides the Sync system, the interior sucks.
Any person that looks at a car as an investment really needs to take a long hard look at things again. Cars depreciate faster then anything else in this world. I understand you don't buy new cars very often, but to think of it as an investment is not very smart. The only way you can "make money" off of it after 6yrs is to make sure it has low mileage and the thing is paid off. I read an article a few months back in the USA today about the length of auto loans and how they have extended to 8yrs. If you need a car loan for 8 yrs to pay it off, maybe you should reconsider and look at something else.
It's amazing how many people get belly up on a car because they want low monthly payments, small downpayment and great interest rate. Anyways, good luck on your car search. From what you have stated you have effectively eliminated every possible SUV/CUV on the market that is worth a damn!
Did I say investment? No I didn't. I said I want to get -something- for my car in 6 years instead of selling it to Azteca Motoros for $2500 which is exactly where those Enclaves and other Lambda based GM junk will be.
And I don't care about small payment and interest rate as I will be paying cash.
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Originally posted by inteller
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Originally posted by TUalum0982
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Originally posted by inteller
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Originally posted by TUalum0982
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Originally posted by inteller
I'm looking at replacing the current AWD in my stable and was wondering what people are bustling about town in.
So far I've looked at:
Acura RDX....absolutely no power. Neat gadgets but the turbo on it is small and it can't stay in the boost.
Land Rover LR2. I love it, but the wife hates the look of it.
BMW X3. Ultimate driving machine, but ultimate worst in residual value. Also the interior gadgetry sucks.
Anyone have an EX35? That's going to be what we look at next. Not too thrilled on the looks, but there is an aerodynamic kit that can cure that.
Cars that are not an option:
Anything by Chrysler, GM, Honda, Toyota, Kia, Hyundai, Saturn.
Patiently waiting for the Volvo XC60 but it wont be out until end of year at best.
you have pretty much listed them all above either by the ones you dont like and that you refuse to even take a look at. I would suggest trying the new Buick Enclave. Comes in fwd or awd. DVD nav system, and dvd entertainment system available. 7 or 8 seat configuration. Dual sunroofs, power heated mirros, 12 way front power heated seats. Power lift gate. They are super quiet on the highway and get decent gas mileage (currently averaging 19.5 in mine and I have a heavy foot. They are super quiet on the highway and you will be doing 80-85 before you realize it. If you are going to be that close minded about your choice of vehicle before even looking at them, you are limiting your options considerably.
here is an article from car and driver on the enclave.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/performance_files_tested_by_c_d/2008_buick_enclave_cxl_awd_short_take_road_test
i'm not close minded. those brands were eliminated either because they are a dime a dozen, or their residual values are crap. the buick won't be worth crap in a few years because GM piles incentives on them. we keep vehicles for 6+ years and we intend to get something for them when we sell/trade.
as for the edge, I like them and will probably test drive one, but they really need an SVT version or something with more style. besides the Sync system, the interior sucks.
Any person that looks at a car as an investment really needs to take a long hard look at things again. Cars depreciate faster then anything else in this world. I understand you don't buy new cars very often, but to think of it as an investment is not very smart. The only way you can "make money" off of it after 6yrs is to make sure it has low mileage and the thing is paid off. I read an article a few months back in the USA today about the length of auto loans and how they have extended to 8yrs. If you need a car loan for 8 yrs to pay it off, maybe you should reconsider and look at something else.
It's amazing how many people get belly up on a car because they want low monthly payments, small downpayment and great interest rate. Anyways, good luck on your car search. From what you have stated you have effectively eliminated every possible SUV/CUV on the market that is worth a damn!
Did I say investment? No I didn't. I said I want to get -something- for my car in 6 years instead of selling it to Azteca Motoros for $2500 which is exactly where those Enclaves and other Lambda based GM junk will be.
And I don't care about small payment and interest rate as I will be paying cash.
so let me get this straight, you are paying cash for a vehicle and want opinions from the people on this board, yet when we give you our opinion, you find something "wrong and negative" with every single one mentioned. "everyone has a lexus, the RX400 is outdated, I refuse to buy GM, etc etc etc". Maybe you should splurge on something like a porsche cayenne? perhaps the turbo model? maybe a g55 from MB?? You are negative on damn near everything you post, and quite frankly one must ask how in the hell does your family put up with your negativity? Are they depressed all the time? does your negative attitude rub off on them as well?
Once again if you are going to base your new car buying decision solely on resale value after 6yrs, its a game you aren't going to win. On another note, I drive the very vehicles you mentioned home daily. If you are interested in any of them, let me know and maybe, just maybe I will let you test drive one of them sometime? what do you say??
with you? no thanks, I'd rather reinact the TV torture scene from Clockwork Orange.
I'm narrowed down to 6 vehicles now, maybe 5 depending on what the new FX35 looks like when it arrives in June.
RDX -Driven, no power, lots of tech
X3 -Driven, great ride all around, no tech
EX35 - Not driven
LR2 - Driven, some tech, some power
Lincoln MKX - Not Driven
FX35 - Not Driven
It looks like this:
http://www.automobilemag.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0803_2009_infiniti_fx35_fx50_wallpaper/index.html
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Originally posted by inteller
with you? no thanks, I'd rather reinact the TV torture scene from Clockwork Orange.
I'm narrowed down to 6 vehicles now, maybe 5 depending on what the new FX35 looks like when it arrives in June.
RDX -Driven, no power, lots of tech
X3 -Driven, great ride all around, no tech
EX35 - Not driven
LR2 - Driven, some tech, some power
Lincoln MKX - Not Driven
FX35 - Not Driven
Maybe you should look into the new BMW X6. It's a unique design and you could be one of the first to own in a city full of boring lexus, toyota and other crap SUV's!
In case you haven't seen it, here is a pic for you.
http://www.momist.com/uploaded_images/BMW-X6-749777.jpg
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Originally posted by TUalum0982
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Originally posted by inteller
with you? no thanks, I'd rather reinact the TV torture scene from Clockwork Orange.
I'm narrowed down to 6 vehicles now, maybe 5 depending on what the new FX35 looks like when it arrives in June.
RDX -Driven, no power, lots of tech
X3 -Driven, great ride all around, no tech
EX35 - Not driven
LR2 - Driven, some tech, some power
Lincoln MKX - Not Driven
FX35 - Not Driven
Maybe you should look into the new BMW X6. It's a unique design and you could be one of the first to own in a city full of boring lexus, toyota and other crap SUV's!
In case you haven't seen it, here is a pic for you.
http://www.momist.com/uploaded_images/BMW-X6-749777.jpg
I'm not keen on turning that much power over to my wife to drive. TT V8? Yeah, I'd get the call that she wadded it up.
Not digging the power vent on the side of the new FX if it isn't functional. At least Land Rover power vents are functional.
Shame the US doesn't get the FX37.
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Originally posted by inteller
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Originally posted by TUalum0982
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Originally posted by inteller
with you? no thanks, I'd rather reinact the TV torture scene from Clockwork Orange.
I'm narrowed down to 6 vehicles now, maybe 5 depending on what the new FX35 looks like when it arrives in June.
RDX -Driven, no power, lots of tech
X3 -Driven, great ride all around, no tech
EX35 - Not driven
LR2 - Driven, some tech, some power
Lincoln MKX - Not Driven
FX35 - Not Driven
Maybe you should look into the new BMW X6. It's a unique design and you could be one of the first to own in a city full of boring lexus, toyota and other crap SUV's!
In case you haven't seen it, here is a pic for you.
http://www.momist.com/uploaded_images/BMW-X6-749777.jpg
I'm not keen on turning that much power over to my wife to drive. TT V8? Yeah, I'd get the call that she wadded it up.
Not digging the power vent on the side of the new FX if it isn't functional. At least Land Rover power vents are functional.
Shame the US doesn't get the FX37.
understandable. The exact reason why we didn't opt for the twin turbo 335I. Gas mileage plus my blonde fiancee driving? only thing that can happen is bad!
The MKX is nice, but once again just a redbadged Ford Edge, the gas mileage isn't anything to write home about either.