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Title: Bold Move: UTW Takes On Kitchell
Post by: Conan71 on March 08, 2008, 12:53:07 PM
Pick up a copy of this week's UTW.  Cover story is Steve Kitchell and it's not a highly complimentary piece.  It took some serious cajones to publish it, and it's about time for everyone to see what people around that industry have known for years about the way the clubs are run and general thuggery.

If I were the writer, editor, or publisher, I think I might wince a little every time I start my car from now on and I'd probably sprout eyes in the back of my head to keep from being randomly beat up.

Title: Bold Move: UTW Takes On Kitchell
Post by: FOTD on March 08, 2008, 01:41:59 PM
I always thought every town needed a Steve Kitchell type. Club owners don't kill people. People kill people.

The camel is a chameleon.
Title: Bold Move: UTW Takes On Kitchell
Post by: waterboy on March 08, 2008, 02:42:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

I always thought every town needed a Steve Kitchell type. Club owners don't kill people. People kill people.

The camel is a chameleon.



That's a really ...stupid remark. You're smarter than that aren't you? Just trying to be cute?

Kudos to UT for showing some journalistic bravado. The World story should be coming soon.
Title: Bold Move: UTW Takes On Kitchell
Post by: BKDotCom on March 08, 2008, 03:02:04 PM
Perhaps he's just trying to say that club owners aren't people.
Title: Bold Move: UTW Takes On Kitchell
Post by: tulsa_fan on March 09, 2008, 03:27:30 PM
I was impressed with the article, you are right, it took some umph to do it.  But from what I read, have seen, and heard, it's right on.  What an attorney, calling to threaten, as well as Kitchell.  That many things are said and written about you if there isn't some truth to it.

I don't know anyone who would be too sad if he never came up with another venue again!
Title: Bold Move: UTW Takes On Kitchell
Post by: inteller on March 10, 2008, 07:46:30 AM
I wouldn't be afraid of a two bit Soprano wannabe punk like Kitchell. That is easy to see because if he had real balls and organization he would beat down the north tulsa gangs that infiltrate his clubs so he prolong the profits.  But he would rather slither away and fire up a new club.

For true thuggery you have to reach further up the chain to Utica Place.
Title: Bold Move: UTW Takes On Kitchell
Post by: Conan71 on March 10, 2008, 11:28:37 AM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

I wouldn't be afraid of a two bit Soprano wannabe punk like Kitchell. That is easy to see because if he had real balls and organization he would beat down the north tulsa gangs that infiltrate his clubs so he prolong the profits.  But he would rather slither away and fire up a new club.

For true thuggery you have to reach further up the chain to Utica Place.



You have obviously never had any face-to-face dealings w/ Kitchell.

Title: Bold Move: UTW Takes On Kitchell
Post by: Hawkins on March 10, 2008, 12:11:59 PM
I doubt the story will affect him.

He can't legally be run out of town, as some have previously suggested, and there seems to be a never-ending stream of the young, dumb, and socially hungry loser crowd to fill his clubs up every weekend.

The only thing thats going to get rid of Kitchell  is another flood. Or perhaps the bird flu. Something apocalyptic to thin the herd that he feeds off of.

Its the sad truth, guys.
Title: Bold Move: UTW Takes On Kitchell
Post by: inteller on March 10, 2008, 01:00:37 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by inteller

I wouldn't be afraid of a two bit Soprano wannabe punk like Kitchell. That is easy to see because if he had real balls and organization he would beat down the north tulsa gangs that infiltrate his clubs so he prolong the profits.  But he would rather slither away and fire up a new club.

For true thuggery you have to reach further up the chain to Utica Place.



You have obviously never had any face-to-face dealings w/ Kitchell.





no, I can't because carrying a face shield for the spit is a hassle.
Title: Bold Move: UTW Takes On Kitchell
Post by: inteller on March 10, 2008, 01:02:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hawkins


The only thing thats going to get rid of Kitchell  is another flood. Or perhaps the bird flu. Something apocalyptic to thin the herd that he feeds off of.





oh I dunno.  cross the wrong people in town and I could see some concrete slippers in his future.  but most of the real thuggery in this town doesn't dwell in the underbelly sewers his operations work in.

i thought it was funny the article said he wanted to pack up and go to vegas.  he wouldn't last a week in vegas.
Title: Bold Move: UTW Takes On Kitchell
Post by: patric on March 10, 2008, 01:04:33 PM
The author noted that whenever there is a high-profile incident at one of these clubs, it's followed by a high-profile police response (photo op) where a police cadet (a couple of weeks short of his/her 21st birthday) goes around a bunch of unrelated establishments to see if they can trick them into being served.

That's just got to be salt in the wound for legitimate businesses.
Title: Bold Move: UTW Takes On Kitchell
Post by: inteller on March 10, 2008, 01:37:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by patric

The author noted that whenever there is a high-profile incident at one of these clubs, it's followed by a high-profile police response (photo op) where a police cadet (a couple of weeks short of his/her 21st birthday) goes around a bunch of unrelated establishments to see if they can trick them into being served.

That's just got to be salt in the wound for legitimate businesses.



yup yup.  and that sounds exactly like something the cops would do.
Title: Bold Move: UTW Takes On Kitchell
Post by: Townsend on March 10, 2008, 01:58:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller
yup yup.  and that sounds exactly like something the cops would do.



Why?  Are there others that do it too?  Maybe sounds somewhat like something someone else would do?
Title: Bold Move: UTW Takes On Kitchell
Post by: TeeDub on March 10, 2008, 02:04:24 PM

When I was underage, I tried to get people to serve me all the time..

I figured that "a shot not taken is a goal not scored."
Title: Bold Move: UTW Takes On Kitchell
Post by: tulsacyclist on March 10, 2008, 04:09:20 PM
Is this story available for reading via the internets?
Title: Bold Move: UTW Takes On Kitchell
Post by: Conan71 on March 10, 2008, 04:19:18 PM
quote:
Originally posted by tulsacyclist

Is this story available for reading via the internets?



http://www.urbantulsa.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A20042

Title: Bold Move: UTW Takes On Kitchell
Post by: tulsacyclist on March 17, 2008, 12:28:05 PM
Thank you.
Title: Bold Move: UTW Takes On Kitchell
Post by: izmophonik on March 23, 2008, 09:50:21 PM
All I know about him is that he's a cheap SOB.  I used to play in a band that played several of his clubs.  He'd book us at a price and then after the show, make up some lame donkey excuse why he didn't have enough money. We're talking $450-$600 here folks.  He did that to us everytime.  We just got used to it and realized we would never get what we were told....ever.