Big announcement of the opening act at BOK tomorrow a.m.
Any guesses??
Have heard it is the announcement for AN act, not THE act.
the rutles...
you heard it here first...
Hmmm...An announcement that there will be an opening act. I missed that part of the story. Is that an announcement? Don't we already know there is going to be an opening act?
Guessing Brooks and Dunn or Toby Keith....maybe a coupled show with several performers ala Underwood/Urban. My bet is on country.
Tom Petty is out and about. Not too many acts roaming around in October announcing yet. Eagles? Stevie Wonder?
I'll drive up from Dallas for Tom Petty or Garth. And bring friends.
I heard Carrie Underwood.
Could we do something Really out of the ordinary (meaning NOT country) for once? We have one shot at the opening of this place-- I mean, I know a lot of people around here like country, but we want to draw people from outside of Tulsa ... We need names like U2, Madonna, Elton John--the big names--not the big country names...
** Here's to hoping for something other than a run-of-the-mill country bonanza**
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Originally posted by DScott28604
Could we do something Really out of the ordinary (meaning NOT country) for once? We have one shot at the opening of this place-- I mean, I know a lot of people around here like country, but we want to draw people from outside of Tulsa ... We need names like U2, Madonna, Elton John--the big names--not the big country names...
** Here's to hoping for something other than a run-of-the-mill country bonanza**
The people within driving distance outside of Tulsa Metro are more country fans than inside.
Drive south, try out the radio.
I'm not a country fan (I can appreciate some country music) but Carrie Underwood let alone Garth would be a huge score for the arena. They are doing a series of back to back dates to open the arena, I would be thrilled if it opened with a successful and big name act of any kind and followed immediately with a big act of a different kind. 20,000 tickets, scalpers, buzz and people downtown is what I want to see happen - not necessarily an act that I will enjoy.
GNR...
Foghat?
Kenny Chesney.
Whooptidoo.
Tickets s/b $10 a piece to fill the BOK.
Come on, people. Who are you expecting? Kenny Chesney is one of the bigger touring shows in country music I think. It's a good get and it will sell out.
If I remember correctly, Carrie Underwood is/was his opening act.
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Kenny Chesney.
Whooptidoo.
Really? He is playing at the FORD Center on May this year.
http://www.pollstar.com/tour/searchall.pl?By=All&Content=+Kenny+Chesney&go_green.x=17&go_green.y=14
On the plus side he was the #2 touring act of 2007:
http://countrymusic.about.com/od/news/qt/KC_No2Tourof07.htm
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The Tulsa World (//%22http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20080221_8__Count65626%22) has the goods up already.
Kenny Chesney featuring LeeAnn Rimmes Tickets on sale March 1st. $72.50 each, all reserved seating for a concert to be held September 10th. www.bokcenter.com still doesnt have any info.
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Somewhat disappointed, but like I said. If it sells out the venue then I'm just fine with it. However, there is still zero chance I will be attending any of the announced major events at the BOk center. [xx(]
It's not just Kenny Chesney... LeAnn Rimes will be on hand, too. And, by the way, it's not the opening act. The concert is Sep. 10 and, as reported by the World, just one concert in the first two weeks of opening.
Read: NOT the opening act.
Tickets are $72.50 a piece.
I probably won't buy any...I think country music is kinda the special olympics of music.
But this guy is one of the biggest country acts right now. Here are the top fifty selling acts in the country today from Pollstar.com
1. Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
2. Radiohead
3. Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band
4. Metallica
5. Bon Jovi
6. Neil Young
7. Van Halen
8. Billy Joel
9. Rush
10. Jay-Z
11. Eagles
12. Foo Fighters
13. Robert Plant and Alison Krauss
14. Jack Johnson
15. Lynyrd Skynyrd
16. Rage Against the Machine
17. Kenny Chesney
18. Linkin Park
19. Roger Waters
20. matchbox twenty
21. Avril Lavigne
22. Kid Rock
23. Kanye West
24. Ozzy Osbourne
25. The Police
26. The Cure
27. Incubus
28. Bob Dylan
29. John Mellencamp
30. KISS
31. Elton John
32. Lenny Kravitz
33. Def Leppard
34. Velvet Revolver
35. The Spice Girls
36. Jackson Browne
37. Korn
38. The Black Crowes
39. Santana
40. R.E.M.
41. Feist
42. Michael Bublé
43. Jonas Brothers
44. The Smashing Pumpkins
45. Deep Purple
46. "Will Ferrell's Funny Or Die Comedy Tour"
47. Marilyn Manson
48. Tim McGraw
49. Daughtry
50. Bret Michaels
If you look up tickets to the OKC:
1118 tickets available from $86 to $1097 each.
The closest he will be after May is St. Louis (September), so there might even be enough time for people to want to see him again. I'll assume the promoter knows what they are doing in terms of market saturation even if I have my concerns.
[edit]If I got to choose from RM's list I'd pay $72.50 to go see ## Tom Petty, Radiohead, Bon Jovi - Billy Joe (Wife would MAKE me), Eagles (maybe), Foo Fighters (great show), Jack Johnson (does he play full blown arenas?), Roger Waters, Ozzy (opening acts are usually better than the old man himself), Korn (maybe), REM, and Marilyn Manson (great freak watching). Many of the other bands are good bands, but what's Rage, Skynyrd, or Van Halen without the corresponding lead men? It's also disturbing how many of those bands are 20+ years old (27? more than half anyway).
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Deep Purple is still together?
Anyway, this is a good concert. You likely won't catch me dead at it as I think very little good has come from country music since 1989.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
Deep Purple is still together?
Many of those bands are not still together. But some band members will have or buy out the name rights from the others and tour under that name. Van Halen, Pink Floyd (tours without Roger Waters somehow), Skynyrd, CCR, Rage, The Police, Def Leppard... all tour without original members as far as I know. Anyone know if the Smashing Pumpkins is the real deal?
Of the list I can say I've seen 10, and I haven't been to a big concert in 6+ years. kinda sad how the industry is dominated by old blood.
I would be most likely to pay for:
Tom Petty
Radiohead
Springsteen
Metallica
Neil Young
Plant & Kraus
The Cure
Dylan
Black Crowes
Santana
REM
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
Deep Purple is still together?
Many of those bands are not still together. But some band members will have or buy out the name rights from the others and tour under that name. Van Halen, Pink Floyd (tours without Roger Waters somehow), Skynyrd, CCR, Rage, The Police, Def Leppard... all tour without original members as far as I know. Anyone know if the Smashing Pumpkins is the real deal?
Of the list I can say I've seen 10, and I haven't been to a big concert in 6+ years. kinda sad how the industry is dominated by old blood.
Smashing Pumpkins is 1/2 real. Billy Corgan is leading it and is somehow keeping Jimmy Chamberlin out of rehab. James Iha and Darcy aren't part of it, however.
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
Deep Purple is still together?
Many of those bands are not still together. But some band members will have or buy out the name rights from the others and tour under that name. Van Halen, Pink Floyd (tours without Roger Waters somehow), Skynyrd, CCR, Rage, The Police, Def Leppard... all tour without original members as far as I know. Anyone know if the Smashing Pumpkins is the real deal?
Of the list I can say I've seen 10, and I haven't been to a big concert in 6+ years. kinda sad how the industry is dominated by old blood.
RATM concerts feature all 4 original members.
The Police are all 3 original members.
So I'm only a year behind the times. [^]
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Smashing Pumpkins is 1/2 real. Billy Corgan is leading it and is somehow keeping Jimmy Chamberlin out of rehab. James Iha and Darcy aren't part of it, however.
Smashing Pumpkins is 100% real. Billy Corgan is the Smashing Pumkins.
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Originally posted by guido911
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Smashing Pumpkins is 1/2 real. Billy Corgan is leading it and is somehow keeping Jimmy Chamberlin out of rehab. James Iha and Darcy aren't part of it, however.
Smashing Pumpkins is 100% real. Billy Corgan is the Smashing Pumkins.
No-one would know who they were if not for Iha and, to a smaller percentage, D'arcy. Chamberlin is worthless then and now. Corgan was a decent writer but Iha and the rest were the real musical talent. Now all Corgan has to do is hire people who can do play good SP covers to be his backing guitarists so he sounds good.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
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Originally posted by guido911
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Smashing Pumpkins is 1/2 real. Billy Corgan is leading it and is somehow keeping Jimmy Chamberlin out of rehab. James Iha and Darcy aren't part of it, however.
Smashing Pumpkins is 100% real. Billy Corgan is the Smashing Pumkins.
No-one would know who they were if not for Iha and, to a smaller percentage, D'arcy. Chamberlin is worthless then and now. Corgan was a decent writer but Iha and the rest were the real musical talent. Now all Corgan has to do is hire people who can do play good SP covers to be his backing guitarists so he sounds good.
While I agree that James Iha is a very talented musician (those perfect circle tunes are very complex), Billy Corgan basically was the SP. He wrote most the songs, and is a good musician in his own right. What do you have against Jimmy Chamberlin? Good drummer with an impressive meter. Check out this youtube clip of Billy around the time of the Melloncollie release.
Infinite Sadness 95 (//%22http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKo4eT38XS4%22)
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Originally posted by danno
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
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Originally posted by guido911
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Smashing Pumpkins is 1/2 real. Billy Corgan is leading it and is somehow keeping Jimmy Chamberlin out of rehab. James Iha and Darcy aren't part of it, however.
Smashing Pumpkins is 100% real. Billy Corgan is the Smashing Pumkins.
No-one would know who they were if not for Iha and, to a smaller percentage, D'arcy. Chamberlin is worthless then and now. Corgan was a decent writer but Iha and the rest were the real musical talent. Now all Corgan has to do is hire people who can do play good SP covers to be his backing guitarists so he sounds good.
While I agree that James Iha is a very talented musician (those perfect circle tunes are very complex), Billy Corgan basically was the SP. He wrote most the songs, and is a good musician in his own right. What do you have against Jimmy Chamberlin? Good drummer with an impressive meter. Check out this youtube clip of Billy around the time of the Melloncollie release.
Infinite Sadness 95 (//%22http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKo4eT38XS4%22)
I think you may want to go check and see the writer credits on some of the SP's songs on their hit albums. I'm pretty sure Iha was credited or contributed on a lot of them.
Also, FWIW, I attended an outdoor Kenny Chesney concert in the D.C. area back in 2002 and it was packed with like 80,000 people. He can sell out 18,000 easy.
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Originally posted by danno
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
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Originally posted by guido911
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Smashing Pumpkins is 1/2 real. Billy Corgan is leading it and is somehow keeping Jimmy Chamberlin out of rehab. James Iha and Darcy aren't part of it, however.
Smashing Pumpkins is 100% real. Billy Corgan is the Smashing Pumkins.
No-one would know who they were if not for Iha and, to a smaller percentage, D'arcy. Chamberlin is worthless then and now. Corgan was a decent writer but Iha and the rest were the real musical talent. Now all Corgan has to do is hire people who can do play good SP covers to be his backing guitarists so he sounds good.
While I agree that James Iha is a very talented musician (those perfect circle tunes are very complex), Billy Corgan basically was the SP. He wrote most the songs, and is a good musician in his own right. What do you have against Jimmy Chamberlin? Good drummer with an impressive meter. Check out this youtube clip of Billy around the time of the Melloncollie release.
Infinite Sadness 95 (//%22http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKo4eT38XS4%22)
Yep. What Danno said. Corgan was/is notorious for playing all instruments except percussion on the studio albums.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=11827622
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
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Originally posted by guido911
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Smashing Pumpkins is 1/2 real. Billy Corgan is leading it and is somehow keeping Jimmy Chamberlin out of rehab. James Iha and Darcy aren't part of it, however.
Smashing Pumpkins is 100% real. Billy Corgan is the Smashing Pumkins.
No-one would know who they were if not for Iha and, to a smaller percentage, D'arcy. Chamberlin is worthless then and now. Corgan was a decent writer but Iha and the rest were the real musical talent. Now all Corgan has to do is hire people who can do play good SP covers to be his backing guitarists so he sounds good.
ive always heard that Corgan would play their parts in the studio.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
Deep Purple is still together?
Many of those bands are not still together. But some band members will have or buy out the name rights from the others and tour under that name. Van Halen, Pink Floyd (tours without Roger Waters somehow), Skynyrd, CCR, Rage, The Police, Def Leppard... all tour without original members as far as I know. Anyone know if the Smashing Pumpkins is the real deal?
Of the list I can say I've seen 10, and I haven't been to a big concert in 6+ years. kinda sad how the industry is dominated by old blood.
Smashing Pumpkins is 1/2 real. Billy Corgan is leading it and is somehow keeping Jimmy Chamberlin out of rehab. James Iha and Darcy aren't part of it, however.
saw them for one dollar in norman at hollywood theater in 91... when they were still cool :P
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Originally posted by brunoflipper
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
Deep Purple is still together?
Many of those bands are not still together. But some band members will have or buy out the name rights from the others and tour under that name. Van Halen, Pink Floyd (tours without Roger Waters somehow), Skynyrd, CCR, Rage, The Police, Def Leppard... all tour without original members as far as I know. Anyone know if the Smashing Pumpkins is the real deal?
Of the list I can say I've seen 10, and I haven't been to a big concert in 6+ years. kinda sad how the industry is dominated by old blood.
Smashing Pumpkins is 1/2 real. Billy Corgan is leading it and is somehow keeping Jimmy Chamberlin out of rehab. James Iha and Darcy aren't part of it, however.
saw them for one dollar in norman at hollywood theater in 91... when they were still cool :P
Only two of their songs I ever liked...
And if you want to see drummers (I am one) with great meter, check out:
Neal Peart (Rush)
Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater)
Nobody can beat those guys. Period.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
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Originally posted by guido911
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Smashing Pumpkins is 1/2 real. Billy Corgan is leading it and is somehow keeping Jimmy Chamberlin out of rehab. James Iha and Darcy aren't part of it, however.
Smashing Pumpkins is 100% real. Billy Corgan is the Smashing Pumkins.
No-one would know who they were if not for Iha and, to a smaller percentage, D'arcy. Chamberlin is worthless then and now. Corgan was a decent writer but Iha and the rest were the real musical talent. Now all Corgan has to do is hire people who can do play good SP covers to be his backing guitarists so he sounds good.
Agreed for the most part, though IMO, Corgan works best when other people are backing him, rather than him being the Whole Enchilada himself.
Rumor in Chi-town was that D'Arcy was on the outs because she'd become a crack addict, and Corgan didn't want any part of that.
And yeah I said crack. Not heroin, crack.
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Agreed for the most part, though IMO, Corgan works best when other people are backing him, rather than him being the Whole Enchilada himself.
Rumor in Chi-town was that D'Arcy was on the outs because she'd become a crack addict, and Corgan didn't want any part of that.
And yeah I said crack. Not heroin, crack.
Yeah, she and Iha were together and then she just vanished. Melissa Auf De Mer did fine in her place.
Two reasons I think Billy Corgan can't do it all by himself:
1. TheFutureEmbrace
2. Mary Star of the Sea
Both CD's are the real secret behind why the Dyson vaccum has so much suction. Crack it open and look.
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Originally posted by Hoss
Neal Peart (Rush)
Nobody can beat those guys. Period.
Rush is clearly one of the most amazing bands ever. One of the best drummers paired with one fo the best guitarists and bassists.
Yeah, one of the two best, I'd agree with you.
I remember about 25 years ago seeing a cover band here locally. They played "Free Will" by Rush. The bass player played a fretless bass and played the keyboard part to that song with the head of the neck on the bass- unreal.
I would go to the Rush concert in a heartbeat, but I would be content to see the "Ye Olde Renaissance Faire" crowd that seems to follow them...(my neighbors are big fans: capes, robes, and shields)
I would LOVE to see Tom Petty.
I heard it was going to be The Tubes......
There are talks of Led Zeppelin having a world tour in the next year. They were here once, so maybe we could get them back.
So, the good news is that Chesney won't be the actual opening act. He is number 2.
As for #1, I vote for Tom Petty. He could sell the arena out, especially if there's a quality opening act. My dream act would be Eric Clapton and J.J. Cale doing some rock/blues songs along with younger bands that play a similar kind of music, such as The Black Keys (who played at Cain's last year). The bluesy rock scene has come back with a vengeance, especially in Britain. A concert like that would put Tulsa on the map for a music genre that is currently thought of as too new for the area by many.
As I see it, the whole point of the arena is to attract a caliber of concerts that Tulsa would not have attracted without the arena. I may be biased because I don't listen to country, but Kenny Chesney does not at all seem to be of that caliber.
For now, I'm setting my hopes on Tom Petty or Rush, and of course my dream concert with Eric Clapton.
perspicuity,
trust me, Chesney would NOT be coming to Tulsa without the new arena. On this tour he is playing Solider Field in Chicago, The Cleveland Browns Stadium, MGM Grand Arena, LP Field (NFL Titans), Lincoln Financial Field (Eagles), Ford Field (Lions), Lucas Oil Stadium (Colts), Turner Field (Braves), - which all seat tens of thousand more than the BOk Center.
The only venue smaller than the BOk that I found was in Jacksonville and in grand Rapids (where there will be 2 back to back shows seating 12,000 each) - the standard venue size seems to be over 50,000. So perhaps that explains why we can support a concert in OKC and one in Tulsa a few months later.
For that matter neither would Dion. Though I will not go to either, they are probably going to be great acts for the arena and are damn sure "big acts" that I'm happy will be in town.
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Originally posted by perspicuity85
As I see it, the whole point of the arena is to attract a caliber of concerts that Tulsa would not have attracted without the arena. I may be biased because I don't listen to country, but Kenny Chesney does not at all seem to be of that caliber.
You're biased because you don't listen to country.
Chesney is huge. Just understand that he's an incredibly popular country artist who will not only fill the arena but create high demand for tickets. This is still Oklahoma, after all. And he wouldn't have come here without the BOK Center, except perhaps--perhaps--to play Country Thunder in Pryor. So, at a minimum, this is pulling entertainment options back from the suburbs toward the core; but more likely, it's pulling entertainment options to the metro area that would not have come otherwise.
my dad went to see Kenny Chesney in Vegas.
Said it was the loudest concert he'd ever been to...and he's seen Led Zeppelin.
[:D]
Personally, I have no interest in going, but he said it was a great show, except for the volume.
I hate that. Why do they think louder = better? I don't mean it has to be quite to have a normal conversation. But I'd like to be able to shout something in my wifes ear and have her hear it.
Double so for bars. More often than not I leave a bar with live music because I'd rather have a conversation, or at least be able to order a drink. And it's not possible with some hack who has to crank the volume to pretend he can play music.
/I'm officially old.
And if you want to see drummers (I am one) with great meter, check out:
Neal Peart (Rush)
Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater)
Nobody can beat those guys. Period.
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Yeah those guys are great, but what about Terry Bozzio or Danny Carey? Those guys are sick.
I had my donkey thoroughly handed to me this morning by the two country music experts at work. I was thinking just about verbatim what Persp. was. I kept thinking "That's the big announcement, pancakes?"
I listen to enough country I recognize the name and voice but don't really follow who's who. I still think Randy Travis and Clint Black are big stars. [;)] Chesney is a lot bigger star than I gave him credit for.
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Originally posted by Conan71
I had my donkey thoroughly handed to me this morning by the two country music experts at work. I was thinking just about verbatim what Persp. was. I kept thinking "That's the big announcement, pancakes?"
I listen to enough country I recognize the name and voice but don't really follow who's who. I still think Randy Travis and Clint Black are big stars. [;)] Chesney is a lot bigger star than I gave him credit for.
I am not a country music fan by any means but I definitely know the name "kenny chesney" and a few of his songs. The following paragraph was taken from wikipedia
"To date, he has also produced thirty-one Top Ten singles on the U.S. Billboard Hot Country Songs charts, thirteen of which reached Number One. In addition, Chesney has received six ACM (including three consecutive Entertainer of the Year Awards),[2] as well as three CMA awards. Chesney is also one of the most popular touring acts in country music, regularly selling out the venues at which he performs;[3][4] his 2007 Flip-Flop Summer Tour was the highest-grossing country road trip of 2007.[5] His most recent album, Just Who I Am: Poets & Pirates, was released on September 11, 2007."
I would say he is a big star.
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
perspicuity,
trust me, Chesney would NOT be coming to Tulsa without the new arena.
Chesney played at the Convention Center on June 3, 2004. http://www.livedaily.com/news/6083.html
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Originally posted by perspicuity85
As I see it, the whole point of the arena is to attract a caliber of concerts that Tulsa would not have attracted without the arena. I may be biased because I don't listen to country, but Kenny Chesney does not at all seem to be of that caliber.
You're biased because you don't listen to country.
Chesney is huge. Just understand that he's an incredibly popular country artist who will not only fill the arena but create high demand for tickets. This is still Oklahoma, after all. And he wouldn't have come here without the BOK Center, except perhaps--perhaps--to play Country Thunder in Pryor. So, at a minimum, this is pulling entertainment options back from the suburbs toward the core; but more likely, it's pulling entertainment options to the metro area that would not have come otherwise.
I get it, but I want something bigger than Oklahoma. I want something that may not have come to Oklahoma at all without the BOk Center. I know Chesney is a big deal to country fans, but I want someone that is a big deal to all fans, like Bob Dylan, Eric Clapton, or Elton John. Sorry, guess I'm just a perfectionist.
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Originally posted by perspicuity85
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Originally posted by Floyd
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Originally posted by perspicuity85
As I see it, the whole point of the arena is to attract a caliber of concerts that Tulsa would not have attracted without the arena. I may be biased because I don't listen to country, but Kenny Chesney does not at all seem to be of that caliber.
You're biased because you don't listen to country.
Chesney is huge. Just understand that he's an incredibly popular country artist who will not only fill the arena but create high demand for tickets. This is still Oklahoma, after all. And he wouldn't have come here without the BOK Center, except perhaps--perhaps--to play Country Thunder in Pryor. So, at a minimum, this is pulling entertainment options back from the suburbs toward the core; but more likely, it's pulling entertainment options to the metro area that would not have come otherwise.
I get it, but I want something bigger than Oklahoma. I want something that may not have come to Oklahoma at all without the BOk Center. I know Chesney is a big deal to country fans, but I want someone that is a big deal to all fans, like Bob Dylan, Eric Clapton, or Elton John. Sorry, guess I'm just a perfectionist.
Haven't all 3 of them played here before?
perspicuity,
Look at the venues he played in 2004 from the link you gave me.
http://www.livedaily.com/news/6083.html
A fair number of large outdoor amphitheaters, some FORD center type places, and then concert halls, convention centers, and state fairs.
Then look at the list of venues he is playing in 2008:
NFL Stadiums
The largest arenas
MLB Stadiums
Giant outdoor venues
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Solider Field in Chicago, The Cleveland Browns Stadium, MGM Grand Arena, LP Field (NFL Titans), Lincoln Financial Field (Eagles), Ford Field (Lions), Lucas Oil Stadium (Colts), Turner Field (Braves)
I just named a few. Add to tat U of Phoenix stadium (home of the Super Bowl) and a ton of other super venues.
http://www.pollstar.com/tour/searchall.pl?Content=A-KENCHE&StartSearch.x=12&StartSearch.y=18&By=All&PSKey=Y
In the last 4 years I'll go out on a limb and say he has risen to super stardom. Going from state fairs and the Tulsa Convention Center to filling NFL stadiums.
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Originally posted by perspicuity85
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Originally posted by Floyd
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Originally posted by perspicuity85
As I see it, the whole point of the arena is to attract a caliber of concerts that Tulsa would not have attracted without the arena. I may be biased because I don't listen to country, but Kenny Chesney does not at all seem to be of that caliber.
You're biased because you don't listen to country.
Chesney is huge. Just understand that he's an incredibly popular country artist who will not only fill the arena but create high demand for tickets. This is still Oklahoma, after all. And he wouldn't have come here without the BOK Center, except perhaps--perhaps--to play Country Thunder in Pryor. So, at a minimum, this is pulling entertainment options back from the suburbs toward the core; but more likely, it's pulling entertainment options to the metro area that would not have come otherwise.
I get it, but I want something bigger than Oklahoma. I want something that may not have come to Oklahoma at all without the BOk Center. I know Chesney is a big deal to country fans, but I want someone that is a big deal to all fans, like Bob Dylan, Eric Clapton, or Elton John. Sorry, guess I'm just a perfectionist.
Haven't all 3 of them played here before?
yep. Dylan played the Zoo Amp and Clapton and Elton John played in the Ford Center. In fact, it was just last year (iirc) that Clapton played there.
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Originally posted by grahambino
yep. Dylan played the Zoo Amp and Clapton and Elton John played in the Ford Center. In fact, it was just last year (iirc) that Clapton played there.
I meant in Tulsa. I know Clapton and Elton John have played here, just wasn't sure about Bob Dylan.
Yes, Bob Dylan played Cain's, almost exactly four years ago.
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Originally posted by kylieosu
Yes, Bob Dylan played Cain's, almost exactly four years ago.
That show sucked.
Driller stadium was awesome.
Love the Bob.
Update on Kenny Chesney (//%22http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23466563/%22) for all you doubters out there who don't think he can sell tickets.
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Kenny Chesney easily snagged 12 nominations on Tuesday to lead contenders for the annual Academy of Country Music awards, and Rodney Atkins, who has had four straight No. 1 singles, was second with six
I've been thinking about the BOK Arena opening act. We need someone who's an amazing performer, who hasn't toured OK in the recent past, who's too big to have played in the Ford Center, and who would draw worldwide attention to our fabulous new arena.
I think the answer is obvious....
...assuming Elvis lives...
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
Deep Purple is still together?
Many of those bands are not still together. But some band members will have or buy out the name rights from the others and tour under that name. Van Halen, Pink Floyd (tours without Roger Waters somehow), Skynyrd, CCR, Rage, The Police, Def Leppard... all tour without original members as far as I know. Anyone know if the Smashing Pumpkins is the real deal?
Of the list I can say I've seen 10, and I haven't been to a big concert in 6+ years. kinda sad how the industry is dominated by old blood.
Smashing Pumpkins is 1/2 real. Billy Corgan is leading it and is somehow keeping Jimmy Chamberlin out of rehab. James Iha and Darcy aren't part of it, however.
I consider them 100% real. Iha and Wretsky were, at best, expendible musicians. Iha did co-write a few songs here and there, but his guitar work was largely just noisy squeals and feedback, and although I love her, D'arcy is probably the least distinctive bassist in rock. Anyway, Billy played bass and all guitars on at least one of their albums. The new musicians are capable and probably superior musicians to the originals. And, unlike Zwan, Billy is not deliberately trying to write songs that purposely don't sound like the Pumpkins (except for the last song on the Zwan album.) As long as Billy is singing and Jimmy is pounding on the drums (listen to the end of "Starz" and tell me that's not the real Pumpkins) they're the Pumpkins to me (Adore probably should have been a Corgan solo album.)
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No-one would know who they were if not for Iha and, to a smaller percentage, D'arcy. Chamberlin is worthless then and now.
That's gotta be the most absurd thing I've read here, even worse than the Repub kookery you see here on the daily basis. Seriously, Jimmy is my favorite drummer and has an extremely distinct sound which is rare for a percussionist. He's the reason the heaviest Pumpkins songs have that reckless energy that makes them so great.
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Corgan was a decent writer but Iha and the rest were the real musical talent. Now all Corgan has to do is hire people who can do play good SP covers to be his backing guitarists so he sounds good.
If Iha and Wretsky were the real musical talent, then why did Corgan play 100% of the guitars and 100% of the bass on Siamese Dream? And James Iha has been quoted saying that the Pumpkins albums were almost entirely Chamberlin and Corgan. And it is also a known fact that Billy played bass on "Drown" from the Singles soundtrack. And why did Billy play the lion's share of the solos on most songs? Iha is pretty good at manipulating feedback and making squeals, while Billy has a soulful, lyrical lead style which I greatly prefer. And there is no comparison in songwriting ability. Did you hear Iha's solo album? Terrible, just terrible. Iha has written a couple of good songs and helped Billy out a few times (he co-wrote Soma, which is a near-perfect song) but for the most part his songwriting is way too cheerful for my tastes. Iha and Wretsky might have been a big part of the chemistry of the Pumpkins, but Chamberlin and Corgan were the muscle behind the band.
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