They said so on the radio this morning "to pursue other interests." Wonder if she got sick of listening to Medlock? Anyone know what went on behind the scenes?
Changed Gewn to Gwen in title- Mod
MDG: C'mon baby, Nashville is great!
GF: What about my contract?
MDG: Oh, who cares what you signed!
CM: Hey, what about me?
MDG: What about you? You are doing great! Now you and Michael Bates and Charlie Biggs can have it all to yourself!
GF: Yeah, you guys are so smart, why do you need a professional host? All you gotta do is just throw some nonsense out there like we always did.
CM: Yeah, people like me, they really do!
MDG: Slide on on over here Gwenny . . .
I honestly have not listened much in recent history. Their incessant anti-gay, anti illegal alien, anti-muslim message was very, very old.
That morning show had lost it's informational and entertainment value long before DelGiorno left town.
I've said it a million times already- I sure do miss Ehrling in the morning. Joe Kelley sounds like a nice guy, but he's no Ehrling.
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71
I honestly have not listened much in recent history. Their incessant anti-gay, anti illegal alien, anti-muslim message was very, very old.
That morning show had lost it's informational and entertainment value long before DelGiorno left town.
I've said it a million times already- I sure do miss Ehrling in the morning. Joe Kelley sounds like a nice guy, but he's no Ehrling.
I like Kelly pretty well. He's pleasant and certainly conservative but he tries hard to fairly present different sides of an issue no matter his own feelings which is very refreshing compared to KFAQ.
My issue with the KRMG morning show is that there is not enough real content, they spend so much time on advertising and then the constant traffic and weather that the more substantive content gets lost.
Funny you say that Swake. The main reason I listen to KRMG in the morning is for traffic, weather, and news. I commute through the IDL around to the west side on 75 south, and I like to get caught up on the news on the fly and it's good know if I need to take side streets to work because some numpty wrecked along my normal route.
KRMG doesn't seem to get too hung up on issues which is nice.
KRMG +1
I listen to KRMG while getting ready and usually plug into NPR on my way to work (straight shot to work) to see if anythings going on in the world (KRMG mornings may mention world events, but doesn't go into depth).
I really don't need some talking head telling me what to think about the days events before I know what the days events are. I also am not a fan of the "shock jock" morning things that usually spend most of their time laughing a themselves.
Oh, and I despise chick DJs in general. I'm not saying female radio personalities or even female radio DJs. I mean the chick DJs, the ones that do 104.5 or other rock stations at night and try to act as cool/ditsy as possible. Makes me want to drive down to the station and go on a kill crazy rampage. But I don't, because that would be wrong.
On the 'other' forum they say that Chris smacked a mic on-air during a segment about Terry Simonson, that Gwenny walked off and has not been back since. Of all the crap that has gone on there for her to take a stand about that is stoopid.
Yep, I was listening that morning she apparently started 'not feeling well' and left. But sounded okay before the incident. LOL. Too funny
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71
Funny you say that Swake. The main reason I listen to KRMG in the morning is for traffic, weather, and news. I commute through the IDL around to the west side on 75 south, and I like to get caught up on the news on the fly and it's good know if I need to take side streets to work because some numpty wrecked along my normal route.
KRMG doesn't seem to get too hung up on issues which is nice.
My complaint isn't with really with the weather or traffic, it's just them combined with the massive amount of ad time there isn't much time left. Are there not regulations on how much ad time a radio station can have?
Two years ago, a friend of my wife's called Medlock "immature."
I guess things never change.
Medlock carrying a show my himself ... that'll be a train wreck.
well the donkey is gone. Now we just have Beavis and Butthead on Tuesdays. Hopefully we won't get beavis and Butthead 5 days a week.
quote:
Originally posted by rwarn17588
Two years ago, a friend of my wife's called Medlock "immature."
I guess things never change.
Medlock carrying a show my himself ... that'll be a train wreck.
Well, well. The local Ruling power establishment usually gets exactly what they want.
This time, they got even a little more.
They wanted City Councilor Chris Medlock out of office.
And, they got certainly it.
Now, they've got him controlling a microphone on the public airwaves, for 17 1/2 hours per week, talking about local public policy.
Excedrin Headache #1 for the ruling Power Oligarchy.
Meet city councilors Turner, Henderson and Eagleton:
Oligarchy Excedrine Headaches #2, #3, and #4.
[:X]
I don't think Medlock is going to be a headache for anyone as as much as a sleeping pill. [}:)]
Maybe he ought to do Ambien commercials.
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Excedrin Headache #1 for the ruling Power Oligarchy.
Meet city councilors Turner, Henderson and Eagleton:
Oligarchy Excedrine Headaches #2, #3, and #4.
Excedrine Headaches? I don't think that is the phrase I would've used...
quote:
Originally posted by rwarn17588
I don't think Medlock is going to be a headache for anyone as as much as a sleeping pill. [}:)]
Maybe he ought to do Ambien commercials.
Radio is a real simple business paradign:
It's all about Ratings.
If people tune in, he will prosper.
If they don't, he'll be replaced.
I wish him well as the host of the KFAQ Morning Show, and also wish his former Co-Host Gwen Freeman well in her future vocational pursuits.
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Well, well. The local Ruling power establishment usually gets exactly what they want.
This time, they got even a little more.
They wanted City Councilor Chris Medlock out of office.
And, they got certainly it.
He decided to not run for re-election, instead decided to run for Mayor against an incumbent from his own party.
For you to act like it was some conspiracy against him is absurd. I think some of that honey youv'e been eating has turned into mead, foolish bear.
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Well, well. The local Ruling power establishment usually gets exactly what they want.
This time, they got even a little more.
They wanted City Councilor Chris Medlock out of office.
And, they got certainly it.
He decided to not run for re-election, instead decided to run for Mayor against an incumbent from his own party.
For you to act like it was some conspiracy against him is absurd. I think some of that honey youv'e been eating has turned into mead, foolish bear.
The local ruling establishment, sensing a threat against an unpopular establishment Mayor, brought Commissioner Randi "Pool-Boy Toy" Miller into the race at the last minute as the Spoiler to best siphon off Medlock's core constituency.
While they lost reliable Bill MisFortunate, a political hack who ran as a Reformer yet Reformed NOTHING, they chose a close relative of the denizens of the local moneyed elite:
Chatty Kathy Taylor. Although extremely high maintenance to the taxpayers, she is also thoroughly reliable to make absolutely no changes which threatens the Government funded Honey Pot for the local Oligarch Familias.
But, in the most perverse of possible outcomes, Medlock then loses a race for State Representative, becomes unemployed, and then Abracadabra, Alakazaam: VOILA!
Becomes a Host on a local Conservative Radio Morning Show.
Talking regularly about his favorite topic:
Local Public Policy.AND, most importantly, providing a public forum for dissenters and mavericks where the ruling Oligarch Families CANNOT control the message.
Oh, DRAT THAT MAN!
Don't you know that the Lortons are just gnashing their teeth while boating on their 180' yacht?
Not as much fun when they cannot totally control the local political agenda, is it?
Golly, that must really GALL them....
Hint: The fire at the World Publishing Co. was caused by spontaneous human combustion when the Lortons learned over the weekend that Mr. Medlock was taking over the Hosting duties at KFAQ Morning show...
Their Waking Nightmare continues.....Excedrine Headache #1.
[:D]
FB wrote:
Radio is a real simple business paradign:
It's all about Ratings.
If people tune in, he will prosper.
<end clip>
So I wonder when they'll start.
Medlock's been on the radio for quite a while. And yet KFAQ isn't even the top 10 in the Tulsa radio market and hasn't been for a long time. Remember, Tulsa is a medium-sized market, and KFAQ hasn't seen a 4.0 rating in eons.
And Gwen's departure ain't going to help. And berating your co-host isn't going to win you a lot of friends in the business, either.
quote:
Originally posted by rwarn17588
FB wrote:
Radio is a real simple business paradign:
It's all about Ratings.
If people tune in, he will prosper.
<end clip>
So I wonder when they'll start.
Medlock's been on the radio for quite a while. And yet KFAQ isn't even the top 10 in the Tulsa radio market and hasn't been for a long time. Remember, Tulsa is a medium-sized market, and KFAQ hasn't seen a 4.0 rating in eons.
And Gwen's departure ain't going to help. And berating your co-host isn't going to win you a lot of friends in the business, either.
I suspect that Tulsa as a market is more interested in Pop and Country Music, and Sports, than Talk Radio.
If your rating is accurate, that may be the best they can expect, giving the listening interests of the local populace.
There are many local radio station choices.
I also anticipate that Talk Radio temporarily does better during election cycles, or when there is some major catastophe like 9-11, Hurricane Katrina, or the Space Shuttle accidents, so they might get a bit a lift in 2008 with a Presidential Election.
I checked fall 2006, which was an election year. There was no appreciable change in the ratings for KFAQ. It still didn't crack the top 10 in that period.
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Well, well. The local Ruling power establishment usually gets exactly what they want.
This time, they got even a little more.
They wanted City Councilor Chris Medlock out of office.
And, they got certainly it.
He decided to not run for re-election, instead decided to run for Mayor against an incumbent from his own party.
For you to act like it was some conspiracy against him is absurd. I think some of that honey youv'e been eating has turned into mead, foolish bear.
The local ruling establishment, sensing a threat against an unpopular establishment Mayor, brought Commissioner Randi "Pool-Boy Toy" Miller into the race at the last minute as the Spoiler to best siphon off Medlock's core constituency.
While they lost reliable Bill MisFortunate, a political hack who ran as a Reformer yet Reformed NOTHING, they chose a close relative of the denizens of the local moneyed elite:
Chatty Kathy Taylor. Although extremely high maintenance to the taxpayers, she is also thoroughly reliable to make absolutely no changes which threatens the Government funded Honey Pot for the local Oligarch Familias.
But, in the most perverse of possible outcomes, Medlock then loses a race for State Representative, becomes unemployed, and then Abracadabra, Alakazaam: VOILA!
Becomes a Host on a local Conservative Radio Morning Show.
Talking regularly about his favorite topic:
Local Public Policy.
AND, most importantly, providing a public forum for dissenters and mavericks where the ruling Oligarch Families CANNOT control the message.
Oh, DRAT THAT MAN!
Don't you know that the Lortons are just gnashing their teeth while boating on their 180' yacht?
Not as much fun when they cannot totally control the local political agenda, is it?
Golly, that must really GALL them....
Hint: The fire at the World Publishing Co. was caused by spontaneous human combustion when the Lortons learned over the weekend that Mr. Medlock was taking over the Hosting duties at KFAQ Morning show...
Their Waking Nightmare continues.....Excedrine Headache #1.
[:D]
Chris Medlock is the remaining co-host of the morning show on the 14th ranked station in town out of 19. His main competitor has three times the listeners he does. And these rankings are with Gwen Freeman who was the "radio professional" of the two. You have to think that on his own and without her that his ratings are going to fall even further. Is dead last in Tulsa out of the question?
It is a "Waking Nightmare" but I'm thinking moreso to the people running that train wreck of a station.
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear
quote:
Originally posted by rwarn17588
FB wrote:
Radio is a real simple business paradign:
It's all about Ratings.
If people tune in, he will prosper.
<end clip>
So I wonder when they'll start.
Medlock's been on the radio for quite a while. And yet KFAQ isn't even the top 10 in the Tulsa radio market and hasn't been for a long time. Remember, Tulsa is a medium-sized market, and KFAQ hasn't seen a 4.0 rating in eons.
And Gwen's departure ain't going to help. And berating your co-host isn't going to win you a lot of friends in the business, either.
I suspect that Tulsa as a market is more interested in Pop and Country Music, and Sports, than Talk Radio.
If your rating is accurate, that may be the best they can expect, giving the listening interests of the local populace.
There are many local radio station choices.
I also anticipate that Talk Radio temporarily does better during election cycles, or when there is some major catastophe like 9-11, Hurricane Katrina, or the Space Shuttle accidents, so they might get a bit a lift in 2008 with a Presidential Election.
KRMG is the number one rated station in Tulsa, and has been in the top two or three for decades.
Arbitron ratings for Tulsa show KFAQ is now 15th.
http://www1.arbitron.com/tlr/public/report.do;jsessionid=gbxbdzgk+TsEGgtQtgZ3iw**.piuapp02
KMOD-FM Album Oriented Rock 7.7 7.9 7.5 8.7
KWEN-FM Country 7.5 8.1 9.5 7.9
KRMG-AM News Talk Information 6.7 6.2 6.4 6.5
KVOO-FM Country 7.1 6.9 7.1 6.3
KBEZ-FM Adult Contemporary 4.7 4.2 5.5 4.7
KMYZ-FM Alternative 4.0 4.4 3.7 4.4
KXBL-FM Classic Country 4.7 4.8 4.7 4.2
KTBT-FM Rhythmic Contemporary Hit Radio 5.0 4.0 4.4 4.1
KJSR-FM Classic Rock 4.0 5.6 3.8 4.0
KHTT-FM Pop Contemporary Hit Radio 5.7 6.3 4.5 3.9
KRAV-FM Adult Contemporary 3.7 3.6 3.3 3.9
KXOJ-FM Contemporary Christian 2.0 2.0 2.7 3.2
KKCM-FM Contemporary Christian 1.4 3.1 2.6 3.0
KTSO-FM Classic Hits 2.1 2.4 3.0 3.0
KFAQ-AM News Talk Information 2.4 3.5 3.4 2.9
KJMM-FM Urban Contemporary 3.9 2.4 2.7 2.6
KQLL-FM Classic Hits 4.0 3.4 3.1 2.6
KIZS-FM Spanish Adult Hits 2.7 1.4 1.8 2.4
KTBZ-AM All Sports 1.1 1.2 1.1 1.0
KGTO-AM Urban Adult Contemporary 1.1 0.8 1.0 0.9
KXTD-AM Mexican Regional 0.9 0.7 * 0.9
KCFO-AM Religious * 0.7 0.4 0.8
KYAL-FM All Sports 0.9 1.6 1.5 0.7
KRVT-AM Adult Standards/MOR 0.5 0.5 0.5 0.6
KITO-FM Classic Country 0.4 * * *
KTFX-AM Mexican Regional 0.6 * * *
KTKX-AM Mexican Regional * 0.7 * *
KFAQ is the Dennis Kucinech of local radio. Loyal supporters, but mostly crazy.
No fair RM.
Using facts again!
I've noticed that Phil & Brent are getting a bit more edgy. Reminds me of the Bob & Tom show now.
If you have never heard Bob & Tom you should, unless you're easily offended.
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael
Arbitron ratings for Tulsa show KFAQ is now 15th.
http://www1.arbitron.com/tlr/public/report.do;jsessionid=gbxbdzgk+TsEGgtQtgZ3iw**.piuapp02
KMOD-FM Album Oriented Rock 7.7 7.9 7.5 8.7
KWEN-FM Country 7.5 8.1 9.5 7.9
KRMG-AM News Talk Information 6.7 6.2 6.4 6.5
KVOO-FM Country 7.1 6.9 7.1 6.3
KBEZ-FM Adult Contemporary 4.7 4.2 5.5 4.7
KMYZ-FM Alternative 4.0 4.4 3.7 4.4
KXBL-FM Classic Country 4.7 4.8 4.7 4.2
KTBT-FM Rhythmic Contemporary Hit Radio 5.0 4.0 4.4 4.1
KJSR-FM Classic Rock 4.0 5.6 3.8 4.0
KHTT-FM Pop Contemporary Hit Radio 5.7 6.3 4.5 3.9
KRAV-FM Adult Contemporary 3.7 3.6 3.3 3.9
KXOJ-FM Contemporary Christian 2.0 2.0 2.7 3.2
KKCM-FM Contemporary Christian 1.4 3.1 2.6 3.0
KTSO-FM Classic Hits 2.1 2.4 3.0 3.0
KFAQ-AM News Talk Information 2.4 3.5 3.4 2.9
KJMM-FM Urban Contemporary 3.9 2.4 2.7 2.6
KQLL-FM Classic Hits 4.0 3.4 3.1 2.6
KIZS-FM Spanish Adult Hits 2.7 1.4 1.8 2.4
KTBZ-AM All Sports 1.1 1.2 1.1 1.0
KGTO-AM Urban Adult Contemporary 1.1 0.8 1.0 0.9
KXTD-AM Mexican Regional 0.9 0.7 * 0.9
KCFO-AM Religious * 0.7 0.4 0.8
KYAL-FM All Sports 0.9 1.6 1.5 0.7
KRVT-AM Adult Standards/MOR 0.5 0.5 0.5 0.6
KITO-FM Classic Country 0.4 * * *
KTFX-AM Mexican Regional 0.6 * * *
KTKX-AM Mexican Regional * 0.7 * *
KFAQ is the Dennis Kucinech of local radio. Loyal supporters, but mostly crazy.
More up to date rating are here, still Arbitron,
Fall '07 ratings, KFAQ is "up" to 14th, but has a smaller share than on RM's ratings
http://www.radio-info.com/content/arbitron.php?market=065
Thanks swake.
Tho it would have been kind of funny if the Mexitulsan stations had higher ratings.[}:)]
quote:
Originally posted by swake
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael
Arbitron ratings for Tulsa show KFAQ is now 15th.
http://www1.arbitron.com/tlr/public/report.do;jsessionid=gbxbdzgk+TsEGgtQtgZ3iw**.piuapp02
KMOD-FM Album Oriented Rock 7.7 7.9 7.5 8.7
KWEN-FM Country 7.5 8.1 9.5 7.9
KRMG-AM News Talk Information 6.7 6.2 6.4 6.5
KVOO-FM Country 7.1 6.9 7.1 6.3
KBEZ-FM Adult Contemporary 4.7 4.2 5.5 4.7
KMYZ-FM Alternative 4.0 4.4 3.7 4.4
KXBL-FM Classic Country 4.7 4.8 4.7 4.2
KTBT-FM Rhythmic Contemporary Hit Radio 5.0 4.0 4.4 4.1
KJSR-FM Classic Rock 4.0 5.6 3.8 4.0
KHTT-FM Pop Contemporary Hit Radio 5.7 6.3 4.5 3.9
KRAV-FM Adult Contemporary 3.7 3.6 3.3 3.9
KXOJ-FM Contemporary Christian 2.0 2.0 2.7 3.2
KKCM-FM Contemporary Christian 1.4 3.1 2.6 3.0
KTSO-FM Classic Hits 2.1 2.4 3.0 3.0
KFAQ-AM News Talk Information 2.4 3.5 3.4 2.9
KJMM-FM Urban Contemporary 3.9 2.4 2.7 2.6
KQLL-FM Classic Hits 4.0 3.4 3.1 2.6
KIZS-FM Spanish Adult Hits 2.7 1.4 1.8 2.4
KTBZ-AM All Sports 1.1 1.2 1.1 1.0
KGTO-AM Urban Adult Contemporary 1.1 0.8 1.0 0.9
KXTD-AM Mexican Regional 0.9 0.7 * 0.9
KCFO-AM Religious * 0.7 0.4 0.8
KYAL-FM All Sports 0.9 1.6 1.5 0.7
KRVT-AM Adult Standards/MOR 0.5 0.5 0.5 0.6
KITO-FM Classic Country 0.4 * * *
KTFX-AM Mexican Regional 0.6 * * *
KTKX-AM Mexican Regional * 0.7 * *
KFAQ is the Dennis Kucinech of local radio. Loyal supporters, but mostly crazy.
More up to date rating are here, still Arbitron,
Fall '07 ratings, KFAQ is "up" to 14th, but has a smaller share than on RM's ratings
http://www.radio-info.com/content/arbitron.php?market=065
May be a slight case or crate of Apples and Oranges here.
KFAQ ranked as 14th is not the same as the ranking for the KFAQ Morning show.
Right?
Regardless of whether the KFAQ Morning Show is 14th or 4th, if that satisfies station management and ownership of the station, then the format and the host will stay.
If they want CHANGE, then they may better themselves, or they may be worse off with a change.
Gosh, I've fostered my own EPIPHANY!
If we elect
MR. CHANGE: Barack Hussein Obama as President, could things CHANGE for the WORSE??
Hellllooooooooooo, Mr. and Mrs. America?
[8D]
I know I'm going to get savaged for mentioning this, but the summary ratings that swake and RM have quoted are for the entire day, from 6 a.m. to midnight, and for listeners age 12 and up. They don't necessarily translate to the relative popularity of morning drive shows.
Stations sell time based on daypart ratings (e.g. 6 a.m. to 10 a.m.). Advertisers tend to be concerned about key demographics, particularly the 25-54 age range, which has the most disposable income.
It's mathematically possible that KFAQ is beating KRMG for the morning drive shift with adults 25-54, but, because KRMG's national talk shows -- particularly Limbaugh and Hannity -- are more popular and better established in Tulsa than KFAQ's national line-up, KRMG does better when you average out the entire day and all demographics. I haven't seen actual numbers, but it's my understanding that KRMG hasn't beaten KFAQ in morning drive for adults 25-54 since early in DelGiorno's tenure.
You may now commence to calling me names and accusing me of drinking the KKKFAQoolaid, etc.
Do you prefer the grape or the cherry? Here is an easy fix: have one of the bigwigs over there disclose the arbitron ratings. See, simple?
quote:
Originally posted by MichaelBates
I know I'm going to get savaged for mentioning this, but the summary ratings that swake and RM have quoted are for the entire day, from 6 a.m. to midnight, and for listeners age 12 and up. They don't necessarily translate to the relative popularity of morning drive shows.
Stations sell time based on daypart ratings (e.g. 6 a.m. to 10 a.m.). Advertisers tend to be concerned about key demographics, particularly the 25-54 age range, which has the most disposable income.
It's mathematically possible that KFAQ is beating KRMG for the morning drive shift with adults 25-54, but, because KRMG's national talk shows -- particularly Limbaugh and Hannity -- are more popular and better established in Tulsa than KFAQ's national line-up, KRMG does better when you average out the entire day and all demographics. I haven't seen actual numbers, but it's my understanding that KRMG hasn't beaten KFAQ in morning drive for adults 25-54 since early in DelGiorno's tenure.
You may now commence to calling me names and accusing me of drinking the KKKFAQoolaid, etc.
You're okay MB. I thought the Arbitron book broke down time slots and ages clearly. Shows how much I've retained from my days in advertising.
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71
You're okay MB. I thought the Arbitron book broke down time slots and ages clearly. Shows how much I've retained from my days in advertising.
The actual ratings book does break things down by time slot and ages, but that information is provided only to subscribers, not to the general public. The numbers you find on websites, like those RM and swake posted, are aggregates of the entire day and all demographics.
quote:
Originally posted by MichaelBates
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71
You're okay MB. I thought the Arbitron book broke down time slots and ages clearly. Shows how much I've retained from my days in advertising.
The actual ratings book does break things down by time slot and ages, but that information is provided only to subscribers, not to the general public. The numbers you find on websites, like those RM and swake posted, are aggregates of the entire day and all demographics.
It only FIGURES that SWAKE and RecycleMichael published a half-truth.
They LOVE the Lorton's World, too, where the Half-Truth is their Coin-of-the Realm.
<FM wrote:
It only FIGURES that SWAKE and RecycleMichael published a half-truth.
<end clip>
It wasn't a half-truth. Those numbers are real and accurate. It doesn't change the fact that KFAQ is a mediocre-ratings radio station in a medium-sized market.
quote:
Originally posted by rwarn17588
<FM wrote:
It only FIGURES that SWAKE and RecycleMichael published a half-truth.
<end clip>
It wasn't a half-truth. Those numbers are real and accurate. It doesn't change the fact that KFAQ is a mediocre-ratings radio station in a medium-sized market.
Well, either of those bloviating blowhards either KNEW they were telling a half-truth by representing 18-hours of radio market capture as related to the KFAQ MORNING SHOW'S performance, or else they were too STUPID to know.
Which is it?
INTENTIONAL Bias, or mere STUPIDITY?
Let's be generous, and blame it on intentional bias.
They cooked intepretation of the full day's rating numbers to advance their hatred of KFAQ and Mr. Medlock.
About what I'd expect from Tulsa Trailer Trash.
Go Recyle This!
[:O]
Or, I'm betting, you're simply too dense to read and actually comprehend the numbers.
[}:)]
First of all, I don't hate KFAQ or the DJ.
Secondly, we provided as many facts are as available without being a subscriber. I don't doubt that what Michael Bates posted is true, I just don't have the ability to see if a particular time slot is rated any higher than any other time. It may be true, it may be false.
You never, ever, provide any facts, just off-the wall accusations.
You put the "you" in innuendo.
So Gwen Freeman would quit a successful morning show over one little incident? Riiiiight. Either there were more than one episode and/or the show was tanking. Probably both, actually.
See, Michael Bates, the problem folk would have with you on this is emblematic of how you operate with everything else. You would clearly have the inside story or at least some version of it to share with readers but you do not. Instead, you put up some bull$#!^ strawman argument that no one can say definitively that KRMG's AM show beats KFAQ's. That is not the issue. The issue is that something so outrageous happened that Gwen walked off the set and vowed - contract or no contract - to not come back.
Stay on point, boys.
quote:
Originally posted by tim huntzinger
So Gwen Freeman would quit a successful morning show over one little incident? Riiiiight. Either there were more than one episode and/or the show was tanking. Probably both, actually.
See, Michael Bates, the problem folk would have with you on this is emblematic of how you operate with everything else. You would clearly have the inside story or at least some version of it to share with readers but you do not. Instead, you put up some bull$#!^ strawman argument that no one can say definitively that KRMG's AM show beats KFAQ's. That is not the issue. The issue is that something so outrageous happened that Gwen walked off the set and vowed - contract or no contract - to not come back.
Stay on point, boys.
Tim, I was responding to the direction the thread had taken.
As to your point, yes, I do know more than I'm telling, and when it's appropriate, I may have more to say, but it's not appropriate right now.
quote:
Originally posted by MichaelBates
I know I'm going to get savaged for mentioning this, but the summary ratings that swake and RM have quoted are for the entire day, from 6 a.m. to midnight, and for listeners age 12 and up. They don't necessarily translate to the relative popularity of morning drive shows.
Stations sell time based on daypart ratings (e.g. 6 a.m. to 10 a.m.). Advertisers tend to be concerned about key demographics, particularly the 25-54 age range, which has the most disposable income.
It's mathematically possible that KFAQ is beating KRMG for the morning drive shift with adults 25-54, but, because KRMG's national talk shows -- particularly Limbaugh and Hannity -- are more popular and better established in Tulsa than KFAQ's national line-up, KRMG does better when you average out the entire day and all demographics. I haven't seen actual numbers, but it's my understanding that KRMG hasn't beaten KFAQ in morning drive for adults 25-54 since early in DelGiorno's tenure.
You may now commence to calling me names and accusing me of drinking the KKKFAQoolaid, etc.
KRMG John Erling Frette's decline vis-a-vis the KFAQ Morning Show was precisely the reason that big John got retired.
While he hadn't lost his entire audience, the 25-54 age bracket had largely moved elsewhere.
And, the Tulsa Beacon's outing of the $200K annually paid to his wife Margeret as a "Lobbyist" for TPS, EMSA, TTC, TMUA to ensure "peace" with perhaps Big John's potential grifting shake-down racket lost him enormous credibility maybe contributed as well?
[:O]
quote:
Originally posted by MichaelBates
Quote
Tim, I was responding to the direction the thread had taken.
As to your point, yes, I do know more than I'm telling, and when it's appropriate, I may have more to say, but it's not appropriate right now.
Fine with me. I was just pointing out that the whole argument can be put to bed if either station would publicize its numbers. I am guessing that they are forbidden from doing so by Arbitron?
Ehrling? Who? That is soooo 2002. Get over it . . .
Just for the record, I think Chris is doing OK, and I thought Gwen was just fine, too.
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by rwarn17588
<FM wrote:
It only FIGURES that SWAKE and RecycleMichael published a half-truth.
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It wasn't a half-truth. Those numbers are real and accurate. It doesn't change the fact that KFAQ is a mediocre-ratings radio station in a medium-sized market.
Well, either of those bloviating blowhards either KNEW they were telling a half-truth by representing 18-hours of radio market capture as related to the KFAQ MORNING SHOW'S performance, or else they were too STUPID to know.
Which is it?
INTENTIONAL Bias, or mere STUPIDITY?
Let's be generous, and blame it on intentional bias.
They cooked intepretation of the full day's rating numbers to advance their hatred of KFAQ and Mr. Medlock.
About what I'd expect from Tulsa Trailer Trash.
Go Recyle This!
[:O]
I plainly stated that they were the ratings for the station. I never said for the show. You seem to have some issues with reading comprehension. The site I linked to also plainly states that the ratings are for listeners over 17 from 6am to 12pm. If I was trying to hide anything why would I give you the raw data that I am citing?
It's not like KRMG has slightly better ratings, KRMG's ratings are triple what KFAQ's are. I don't know what the day part ratings are, but I have a hard time believing that KFAQ is winning the most important part of the day, morning drive, but still only has one third of the total listeners that KRMG has. Until someone provides real demonstrable facts that say otherwise, the facts we actually do have lead me to believe that KFAQ is not winning the morning show segment, I would bet it's not even close.
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Originally posted by swake
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by rwarn17588
<FM wrote:
It only FIGURES that SWAKE and RecycleMichael published a half-truth.
<end clip>
It wasn't a half-truth. Those numbers are real and accurate. It doesn't change the fact that KFAQ is a mediocre-ratings radio station in a medium-sized market.
Well, either of those bloviating blowhards either KNEW they were telling a half-truth by representing 18-hours of radio market capture as related to the KFAQ MORNING SHOW'S performance, or else they were too STUPID to know.
Which is it?
INTENTIONAL Bias, or mere STUPIDITY?
Let's be generous, and blame it on intentional bias.
They cooked intepretation of the full day's rating numbers to advance their hatred of KFAQ and Mr. Medlock.
About what I'd expect from Tulsa Trailer Trash.
Go Recyle This!
[:O]
I plainly stated that they were the ratings for the station. I never said for the show. You seem to have some issues with reading comprehension. The site I linked to also plainly states that the ratings are for listeners over 17 from 6am to 12pm. If I was trying to hide anything why would I give you the raw data that I am citing?
It's not like KRMG has slightly better ratings, KRMG's ratings are triple what KFAQ's are. I don't know what the day part ratings are, but I have a hard time believing that KFAQ is winning the most important part of the day, morning drive, but still only has one third of the total listeners that KRMG has. Until someone provides real demonstrable facts that say otherwise, the facts we actually do have lead me to believe that KFAQ is not winning the morning show segment, I would bet it's not even close.
Sorry, we're catching you SHAPE-Shifting again,i.e. dissembling.
To quote your earlier post:
Chris Medlock is the remaining co-host of the morning show on the 14th ranked station in town out of 19. His main competitor has three times the listeners he does.
Medlocks main TALK-SHOW competitor is Joe Kelly on KRMG.
YOU DO NOT KNOW, and cannot show that Joe Kelly has three times the listeners of the KFAQ Morning show.
Your serial lies are just digging you a deeper hole.
Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire.
Please Bear...
You offer no proof, yet call others liars when they put out credible, tangible and verifiable information.
You have no credibility, yet feel compelled to attack others who do.
Show your own facts or just shut up.
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael
Please Bear...
You offer no proof, yet call others liars when they put out credible, tangible and verifiable information.
You have no credibility, yet feel compelled to attack others who do.
Show your own facts or just shut up.
Swake the Snake is telling half-truths, and he got called on it.
Why do YOU care?
Because you are a Co-Dependent Contributing Dissembler on this forum, trying to say the KFAQ Morning Show ratings are Low, when in fact you do not and cannot show that they are.
You dredged up the overall station Arbitron Ratings, which do NOT show how any particular time slot is performing.
The question remains to be answered:
Was your slanting of the Arbitron "facts" intentional bias, or merely stupidity?
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Swake the Snake is telling half-truths, and he got called on it.
Such a Friendly Bear.
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Originally posted by swake
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Swake the Snake is telling half-truths, and he got called on it.
Such a Friendly Bear.
Bears have a universally bad attitude when they first come out of hibernation.
It's best to steer clear of them for awhile.
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by swake
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Swake the Snake is telling half-truths, and he got called on it.
Such a Friendly Bear.
Bears have a universally bad attitude when they first come out of hibernation.
It's best to steer clear of them for awhile.
Is that some sort of a threat? Are we going to have a problem?
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Originally posted by swake
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by swake
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Swake the Snake is telling half-truths, and he got called on it.
Such a Friendly Bear.
Bears have a universally bad attitude when they first come out of hibernation.
It's best to steer clear of them for awhile.
Is that some sort of a threat? Are we going to have a problem?
You'll definitely have a problem in this Forum if a bear catches you messing with the facts.
Because Yogi Bear:
He's smarter than the average bear. Yabba dabba dooooooooooo!
Oh, here the numbers are:
Fall 07 Arbitron, Persons 12+, 5am-9am:
KRMG: 11,300; KFAQ: 4,000
Mmmmm, mmmmm, liking that kool-aid now?
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
Oh, here the numbers are:
Fall 07 Arbitron, Persons 12+, 5am-9am:
KRMG: 11,300; KFAQ: 4,000
Mmmmm, mmmmm, liking that kool-aid now?
What exactly do they talk about on KRMG? Or is it just mainly the news?
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
Oh, here the numbers are:
Fall 07 Arbitron, Persons 12+, 5am-9am:
KRMG: 11,300; KFAQ: 4,000
Mmmmm, mmmmm, liking that kool-aid now?
Thank you, Tim, for posting that. I was getting tired of listening to the rantings of that silly old Pooh-Bear.
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
Oh, here the numbers are:
Fall 07 Arbitron, Persons 12+, 5am-9am:
KRMG: 11,300; KFAQ: 4,000
Mmmmm, mmmmm, liking that kool-aid now?
OH MY GOD, you mean it's almost 3 to 1 KRMG over KFAQ?
I can't friggin believe it....Who could have ever made an educated guess at that based on previous data?? Who?
Thank you, Tim.
This explains why Bates parsed his words "it's my understanding ..."
Which means:
-- Bates lied;
-- Or Bates didn't \know what the more recent numbers were, so he made an educated guess based on older data;
-- Or the station lied to Bates.
I think No. 2 and 3 are the most likely scenarios. At least I hope so.
Whatever topics are current. Senator Coburn was on last week, Mayor Taylor was on recently, you know, newsmakers. They have more directed interviews, zip-zip right along. More sports. AND, MORE IMPORTANTLY, THREE TIMES MORE LISTENERS IN THE MORNING.
Well, all KFAQ has to do is let me take on Medlock. Watch the ratings go through the ROOF.[^][:D][:P]
Send e-mail to bgann@journalbroadcastgroup.com. Tell 'em you guys want the Tulsa Sign Nazi on KFAQ! Roy D. Mercer can kiss my sign NAZI arse!
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Originally posted by rwarn17588
Thank you, Tim.
This explains why Bates parsed his words "it's my understanding ..."
Which means:
-- Bates lied;
-- Or Bates didn't \know what the more recent numbers were, so he made an educated guess based on older data;
-- Or the station lied to Bates.
I think No. 2 and 3 are the most likely scenarios. At least I hope so.
Well somebody lied, just like our president. Right Recycle? I see how this works
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
Oh, here the numbers are:
Fall 07 Arbitron, Persons 12+, 5am-9am:
KRMG: 11,300; KFAQ: 4,000
Mmmmm, mmmmm, liking that kool-aid now?
Uh, what exactly is the PROVENANCE of your quoted numbers, since that is SUBSCRIBER-ONLY data?
Did your data actually eminate from some bodily orifice?
Got a LINK to the data...???
Hmmmmmmh?
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Originally posted by tulsasignnazi
Well, all KFAQ has to do is let me take on Medlock. Watch the ratings go through the ROOF.[^][:D][:P]
Send e-mail to bgann@journalbroadcastgroup.com. Tell 'em you guys want the Tulsa Sign Nazi on KFAQ! Roy D. Mercer can kiss my sign NAZI arse!
if Medlock will shoot you on the air then I say go for it.
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
Oh, here the numbers are:
Fall 07 Arbitron, Persons 12+, 5am-9am:
KRMG: 11,300; KFAQ: 4,000
Mmmmm, mmmmm, liking that kool-aid now?
Uh, what exactly is the PROVENANCE of your quoted numbers, since that is SUBSCRIBER-ONLY data?
Did your data actually eminate from some bodily orifice?
Got a LINK to the data...???
Hmmmmmmh?
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Quote
Uh, what exactly is the PROVENANCE of your quoted numbers, since that is SUBSCRIBER-ONLY data?
Did your data actually eminate from some bodily orifice?
Got a LINK to the data...???
Hmmmmmmh?
Actually, I was looking for dead people up your booty chute, but this Grey and Green were already there working over this terrorist with a taser, so I says, 'Hey boys, ya'll got the Arbitron for the fall book?' and they of course would not share it, but this nice gerbil hooked me up widdit as long as I would not reveal the source. So he(?) emailed me the PDF of that page of the report, and we all lived happily ever after.
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
Oh, here the numbers are:
Fall 07 Arbitron, Persons 12+, 5am-9am:
KRMG: 11,300; KFAQ: 4,000
Mmmmm, mmmmm, liking that kool-aid now?
Uh, what exactly is the PROVENANCE of your quoted numbers, since that is SUBSCRIBER-ONLY data?
Did your data actually eminate from some bodily orifice?
Got a LINK to the data...???
Hmmmmmmh?
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Quote
Uh, what exactly is the PROVENANCE of your quoted numbers, since that is SUBSCRIBER-ONLY data?
Did your data actually eminate from some bodily orifice?
Got a LINK to the data...???
Hmmmmmmh?
Actually, I was looking for dead people up your booty chute, but this Grey and Green were already there working over this terrorist with a taser, so I says, 'Hey boys, ya'll got the Arbitron for the fall book?' and they of course would not share it, but this nice gerbil hooked me up widdit as long as I would not reveal the source. So he(?) emailed me the PDF of that page of the report, and we all lived happily ever after.
[:)]
Translation:
The provenance of the quoted ratings is suspect.
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Rating schmatings....personally, I couldn't care less, haven't listened to KFAQ for a long time anyway. What I want is the inside scoop on Gwen's departure! I didn't hear her get p*ssed off at Medlock...but it was over Simonson? Why would she take such a huge stand over him? Scoop, people! [:P]
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Originally posted by TulsaMINI
Rating schmatings....personally, I couldn't care less, haven't listened to KFAQ for a long time anyway. What I want is the inside scoop on Gwen's departure! I didn't hear her get p*ssed off at Medlock...but it was over Simonson? Why would she take such a huge stand over him? Scoop, people! [:P]
Who the hell cares about her departure and that radio station. I think this thread is longer than the one when MDG left. What we know is that two converted DJ's/Tulsa bashers without any real life experience are no longer publicly embarassing our city.
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Quote
Translation:
The provenance of the quoted ratings is suspect.
[:O]
Translation: shove it, stupid. (//%22http://www.flickr.com/photos/43648691@N00/2283256289/%22)
[:D]
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Quote
Translation:
The provenance of the quoted ratings is suspect.
[:O]
Translation: shove it, stupid. (//%22http://www.flickr.com/photos/43648691@N00/2283256289/%22)
[:D]
Attention Mr. Moderator:
It appears that Mr. H. has broken the Forum Rules and Decorum by intemperate language.
Sanctions, please.
[B)]
What a little crybaby! Whaddya gonna do, go cry to your mama? Wahhhh wahhhhh! Grow up . . .
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear
quote:
Originally posted by tim huntzinger
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Quote
Translation:
The provenance of the quoted ratings is suspect.
[:O]
Translation: shove it, stupid. (//%22http://www.flickr.com/photos/43648691@N00/2283256289/%22)
[:D]
Attention Mr. Moderator:
It appears that Mr. H. has broken the Forum Rules and Decorum by intemperate language.
Sanctions, please.
[B)]
Yes, sanctions please.
I am all for some moderator intervention here.
How is Bear able to post with impunity? Bear has called me names, calls me a liar, talks about the death of RM totally without moderation and now he wants moderation?
This poster constantly and rudely attacks this forum, forum members, Tulsanow, Tulsa in general and anyone of prominence in this city. He makes wild and unsubstantiated claims while calling people every name in the book without any moderation. He is not trying to have a constructive conversation and he is actively attacking this forum. I have heard that he is the reason that Tulsa Today closed it's forum. That should be telling about what he's trying to accomplish here.
This is not about what he says, even though a great deal of it is probably libelous, it's how he says it and how he treats other people. I have only ever called for one other person to be banned, and that was the Davazz, and he had exactly the same problem that Bear does. It's time for the bear to join the list of former members of this forum. He doesn't just need moderation, needs to go. Permanently.
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Quote
Translation:
The provenance of the quoted ratings is suspect.
[:O]
Translation: shove it, stupid. (//%22http://www.flickr.com/photos/43648691@N00/2283256289/%22)
[:D]
That'll leave a mark.
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Originally posted by swake
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Quote
Translation:
The provenance of the quoted ratings is suspect.
[:O]
Translation: shove it, stupid. (//%22http://www.flickr.com/photos/43648691@N00/2283256289/%22)
[:D]
Attention Mr. Moderator:
It appears that Mr. H. has broken the Forum Rules and Decorum by intemperate language.
Sanctions, please.
[B)]
Yes, sanctions please.
I am all for some moderator intervention here.
How is Bear able to post with impunity? Bear has called me names, calls me a liar, talks about the death of RM totally without moderation and now he wants moderation?
This poster constantly and rudely attacks this forum, forum members, Tulsanow, Tulsa in general and anyone of prominence in this city. He makes wild and unsubstantiated claims while calling people every name in the book without any moderation. He is not trying to have a constructive conversation and he is actively attacking this forum. I have heard that he is the reason that Tulsa Today closed it's forum. That should be telling about what he's trying to accomplish here.
This is not about what he says, even though a great deal of it is probably libelous, it's how he says it and how he treats other people. I have only ever called for one other person to be banned, and that was the Davazz, and he had exactly the same problem that Bear does. It's time for the bear to join the list of former members of this forum. He doesn't just need moderation, needs to go. Permanently.
Sorry you feel this way.
FB posts within the Forum Rules and Decorum.
FB doesn't make threats.
FB doesn't use profanity.
Posts are relevant to the Topic.
And, FB doesn't post people's real names, even posters such as yourself......
Which, as the offspring of Royalty, have THREE last names. THREE.
What an INVESTMENT in vitriole you appear to be carrying.
Why is that?
Is that really healthy?
May you feel well, and have a Good Day!
Still sore over the historical Dirty Indian Mafia postings concerning your Casino Vice Lord brethren-in-laws?
Let's Smoke a Peace Pipe!
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quote:
Originally posted by tim huntzinger
What a little crybaby! Whaddya gonna do, go cry to your mama? Wahhhh wahhhhh! Grow up . . .
I'm gonna tell the Teacher.
And, she's going to put you in the Corner during Recess, if you can't play nice with Others.
[}:)]
Okay, this thread is going nowhere. It's something between driving around in circles and Romper Room.