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Title: Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills (Wal-Mart) Remodel
Post by: sgrizzle on January 10, 2008, 06:53:58 PM
Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills Completes $7 Million Renovation

    

NewswireToday - /newswire/ - San Diego, CA, United States, 01/10/2008 - The Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills has completed its significant $7 million renovation that encompasses the entire hotel.
    
    

The Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills (HTSH), a 3-star, full-service hotel located directly across from Oral Roberts University, has completed its significant $7 million renovation. Encompassing the entire hotel, the remodel includes all 287 guest rooms and nine new suites, as well as the hotel's public areas, banquet rooms, Legends Grill restaurant, Falls Lounge, indoor pool and fitness center.

Guests of the completed HTSH can look forward to unique architectural details like imported stone from India (mined for the first time just for the hotel), a glass-enclosed pool with a retractable roof and sliding doors, and a waterfall located in the lobby bar (Falls Lounge). The popular Legends Grill restaurant also received a total renovation, boasting exciting modern décor as well as new lunch and dinner menus.

In addition to new carpet and furniture, all guestrooms have been completely redone, featuring at least one 32-inch plasma television as well as a remodeled bath and marble entry way. Additional hotel amenities including a full-service Starbucks store in the lobby, wireless Internet, and complimentary transportation to close-by hotspots like the new Riverwalk Entertainment District, provide additional convenience for guests.

According to Lacey Lamm, the hotel's General Manager, "This renovation will improve our guest's experiences at every level, from the up-to-date decor and color scheme, to the beautifully redesigned bar and meeting areas."

With its prime location close to downtown Tulsa, as well as many golf courses and shopping malls, the hotel is the perfect for meetings, weddings and social events. HTSH will feature 12,000 square feet of refurbished meeting space that can be divided into 19 configurations, including a theater that can seat 10-500 people.

About the Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills
The Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills was recently acquired by New York hotel developer Sam Chang of the McSam Hotel Group and is managed by Packard Hospitality Group LLC (PHG). The hotel originally opened in 1982 and prior to this renovation, was last updated in 1997. For more information on planning a meeting or event, or to book your next visit to Tulsa, call 918-492-5000.
Title: Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills (Wal-Mart) Remodel
Post by: RecycleMichael on January 10, 2008, 07:00:21 PM
The fact that we have a Hilton Hotel in the parking lot of a Wal-Mart says so much about the dichotomy that is Tulsa.
Title: Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills (Wal-Mart) Remodel
Post by: inteller on January 10, 2008, 07:07:40 PM
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

The fact that we have a Hilton Hotel in the parking lot of a Wal-Mart says so much about the dichotomy that is Tulsa.



i agree.  nevermind that if look at from an aerial, it appears that the hands are praying to the indian casino.
Title: Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills (Wal-Mart) Remodel
Post by: safetyguy on January 11, 2008, 08:39:37 AM
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

The fact that we have a Hilton Hotel in the parking lot of a Wal-Mart says so much about the dichotomy that is Tulsa.



This is a good reason why I didn't choose to hold a meeting with out of town guests!! I would have never heard the end of it.

Who cares if it's remodeled inside when you can look out the window and see a Wal-mart within walking distance. At some hotels that would be okay, but not a Hilton.
Title: Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills (Wal-Mart) Remodel
Post by: tulsa1603 on January 16, 2008, 09:21:24 PM
quote:
Originally posted by safetyguy

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

The fact that we have a Hilton Hotel in the parking lot of a Wal-Mart says so much about the dichotomy that is Tulsa.



This is a good reason why I didn't choose to hold a meeting with out of town guests!! I would have never heard the end of it.

Who cares if it's remodeled inside when you can look out the window and see a Wal-mart within walking distance. At some hotels that would be okay, but not a Hilton.



I always thought that tragic placement, too.  I always steer out of town guests that need to be south to the Marriott up on 71st even though it could DEFINITELY use a remodel.
Title: Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills (Wal-Mart) Remodel
Post by: safetyguy on January 16, 2008, 09:46:53 PM
Almost all of the other higher end hotels in town have remodeled or are in the process, so maybe Marriott will catch on or they will lose business.
Title: Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills (Wal-Mart) Remodel
Post by: TURobY on January 16, 2008, 10:54:54 PM
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With its prime location close to downtown Tulsa...


I'm more concerned with this statement.
Title: Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills (Wal-Mart) Remodel
Post by: sgrizzle on January 17, 2008, 07:11:47 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TURobY

quote:

With its prime location close to downtown Tulsa...


I'm more concerned with this statement.



Less than 10 miles. That would be considered "next door" in most cities.
Title: Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills (Wal-Mart) Remodel
Post by: TheArtist on January 17, 2008, 09:09:49 AM
Tulsans have an interesting concept of distance. In the river debacle places like BA and Gleenpool complained that the proposed river stuff wasnt anywhere near them. I was like, "Its just a few miles away not on Mars." lol. I have some aquaintances in Cali that were all excited they had found a place to buy near the beach. I asked how far they were from the beach, they said "Only 10 miles". Perhaps ones concept of distance is relative, kind of like the size of a fish, to the size of the "pond" one is used to being in. Small pond, small minds?
Title: Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills (Wal-Mart) Remodel
Post by: Renaissance on January 17, 2008, 10:42:10 AM
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Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by TURobY

quote:

With its prime location close to downtown Tulsa...


I'm more concerned with this statement.



Less than 10 miles. That would be considered "next door" in most cities.



Nope, disagree.  Pure transparent marketing ploy.  Nobody thinks 10 miles is "close," not in Dallas, Houston, Chicago, or NYC.  Not even in Phoenix or LA, although it's a close call in those places depending on what you're talking about.  A lot of these hotels call themselves "convenient to downtown XYZ," but what they mean is that there's a nice convenient (gridlocked) highway that runs next door.  I travel for business all the time, and when I book hotels I always make sure I check the map to make sure that "close" means 2 miles or less from my destination.
Title: Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills (Wal-Mart) Remodel
Post by: mr.jaynes on January 17, 2008, 11:28:53 AM
quote:
Originally posted by safetyguy

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

The fact that we have a Hilton Hotel in the parking lot of a Wal-Mart says so much about the dichotomy that is Tulsa.



This is a good reason why I didn't choose to hold a meeting with out of town guests!! I would have never heard the end of it.

Who cares if it's remodeled inside when you can look out the window and see a Wal-mart within walking distance. At some hotels that would be okay, but not a Hilton.



Once again, i prefer Doubletree, and I would prefer keeping out of town guests there also.
Title: Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills (Wal-Mart) Remodel
Post by: safetyguy on January 17, 2008, 12:44:07 PM
I hope you mean Warren Place Doubletree
Title: Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills (Wal-Mart) Remodel
Post by: mr.jaynes on January 17, 2008, 12:57:57 PM
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Originally posted by safetyguy

I hope you mean Warren Place Doubletree



Both of them.
Title: Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills (Wal-Mart) Remodel
Post by: TUalum0982 on January 17, 2008, 04:16:14 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Floyd

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by TURobY

quote:

With its prime location close to downtown Tulsa...


I'm more concerned with this statement.



Less than 10 miles. That would be considered "next door" in most cities.



Nope, disagree.  Pure transparent marketing ploy.  Nobody thinks 10 miles is "close," not in Dallas, Houston, Chicago, or NYC.  Not even in Phoenix or LA, although it's a close call in those places depending on what you're talking about.  A lot of these hotels call themselves "convenient to downtown XYZ," but what they mean is that there's a nice convenient (gridlocked) highway that runs next door.  I travel for business all the time, and when I book hotels I always make sure I check the map to make sure that "close" means 2 miles or less from my destination.




Well in this case close does apply.  You hop on 75N and you are downtown in less then 10 minutes. Tulsa doesn't have any gridlocked highways for the most part.  Unless of course there is a wreck on the BA at 5pm or 169 and all 6 or 8 lanes of traffic must stop and stare.
Title: Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills (Wal-Mart) Remodel
Post by: Renaissance on January 17, 2008, 04:24:22 PM
The only reason this even matters is that it could rebut an argument that downtown Tulsa has enough hotel rooms.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&saddr=Tulsa,+OK&daddr=7900+South+Lewis+Avenue&sll=36.14977,-95.99331&sspn=0.275008,0.468292&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=12&om=0

10.7 miles.  18 minutes.  

It would actually be faster to get downtown from the Hotel Renaissance at 71st and Memorial.

http://maps.google.com/maps?daddr=Tulsa,+OK&geocode=12567139114216894787,36.067788,-95.856208&dirflg=&saddr=6808+S+107th+East+Ave,+Tulsa,+OK+74133+(Renaissance+of+Tulsa+Hotel+The)&f=d&hl=en&dq=hotel+loc:+Tulsa,+OK&sll=36.14977,-95.99331&sspn=0.17814,0.275832&ie=UTF8&ll=36.108756,-95.924721&spn=0.103875,0.159645&t=h&z=13&om=0

11.5 miles, 17 minutes

My point is--the Ambassador is close to downtown.  The Crowne Plaza is close to (in) downtown.  Southern Hills Hilton is about as far from downtown as you can stay and still be in Tulsa, OK.
Title: Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills (Wal-Mart) Remodel
Post by: TheArtist on January 17, 2008, 06:12:13 PM
Perhaps they should have said, "convenient to downtown".
Title: Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills (Wal-Mart) Remodel
Post by: bmuscotty on January 17, 2008, 10:17:09 PM
You have to remember the hotel building was there first, not Wal Mart. I think it was called the Grandview back then. That whole area was an empty lot. There used to be a house on the corner of 81st & Lewis where the Sonic is now.
Title: Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills (Wal-Mart) Remodel
Post by: mr.jaynes on January 18, 2008, 09:06:54 AM
I remember the Grandview: I believe it was Oral Roberts' project at one time, wasn't it? And if I remember correctly, no smoking and no alcohol served....
Title: Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills (Wal-Mart) Remodel
Post by: restored2x on January 18, 2008, 09:28:30 AM
Yup - when I came to Tulsa in 1995, I stayed there for a few days and then actually got a job there. OREA built and owned the hotel. My paychecks were from OREA. We had to sign the same employment agreement thing that ORU and ORM employees did.

They sold the hotel to Ralph Jones. (Great guy - I think he owns the MicroTel at the fairgrounds and has a vested interest in the gambling thing at the racetrack). He sold it to Hilton people after a small remodel.

Great to see it redone. That place leaked like crazy because of faulty design and cheap up-keep.

Actually met my wife there when we both worked there. [^]
Title: Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills (Wal-Mart) Remodel
Post by: mr.jaynes on January 18, 2008, 10:41:58 AM
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Originally posted by restored2x

Yup - when I came to Tulsa in 1995, I stayed there for a few days and then actually got a job there. OREA built and owned the hotel. My paychecks were from OREA. We had to sign the same employment agreement thing that ORU and ORM employees did.



That agreement being what exactly? What did you have to agree to?
Title: Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills (Wal-Mart) Remodel
Post by: restored2x on January 18, 2008, 10:59:30 AM
No alcohol consumption. No tobacco of any kind. Moral clause and agreement. Violation of agreement = grounds for termination.

Weird thing is - they had a smoke hole out back. We also had smoking and non-smoking rooms for guests.
Title: Hilton Tulsa Southern Hills (Wal-Mart) Remodel
Post by: mr.jaynes on January 18, 2008, 05:16:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by restored2x

No alcohol consumption. No tobacco of any kind. Moral clause and agreement. Violation of agreement = grounds for termination.

Weird thing is - they had a smoke hole out back. We also had smoking and non-smoking rooms for guests.



And I would literally go balistic in that kind of environment!