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Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: bbriscoe on January 02, 2008, 08:50:14 AM
Any updates on when this junk will get picked up?  Will our regular trash service pickup our Christmas trees?
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: NellieBly on January 02, 2008, 09:00:22 AM
They contracted with a company (from out ot state) for clean up last week and it will start soon. As long as it's picked up before I have to mow around it I am fine with that.

Christmas trees are picked up with regular trash.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: bbriscoe on January 02, 2008, 09:11:46 AM
We've got a pile 11 feet high, 50 feet long and 15 feet deep into our yard.  We can't see our house from the street for all the brush piled up like a wall.  I really hope they pick it up soon or we are going to have rats and snakes living in the pile.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: Conan71 on January 02, 2008, 09:20:26 AM
I thought we had some good piles in our neighborhood.  Getting out and about I'm astounded how many others had it far worse.

My understanding is they are starting up north and working south, though I have a feeling the area around 29th & Columbia might get picked up pretty quick.

They had reported on KRMG that the company they contracted with has 60 days to get it done.  With weather and seeing all the debris around town, I think that's incredibly optimistic.

I think they need to identify debris still lying in streets and move that first, that is a serious hazard especially after dark.  Some appears to have fallen that way, in some neighborhoods it looks as if some of the residents piled it on the city's side of the curb.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: booWorld on January 02, 2008, 07:20:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

I think they need to identify debris still lying in streets and move that first, that is a serious hazard especially after dark.


I agree.  The piles in the streets are dangerous.  The piles near the curbs don't really bother me and can stay for weeks or months as far as I'm concerned.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: Townsend on January 03, 2008, 09:03:30 AM
http://www.kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=142480



"City officials in Tulsa are to open bids Thursday from inspectors who are needed to make sure debris from the recent ice storm is removed in accordance with federal requirements."


Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: safetyguy on January 03, 2008, 10:09:33 AM
We need federal requirements for inspectors to see if limbs are picked up?? Is that just to make sure that the waste contractor is doing what they say said they would do since the feds will end up paying for the debris removal?
Jeebus
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: Conan71 on January 03, 2008, 10:14:40 AM
quote:
Originally posted by safetyguy

We need federal requirements for inspectors to see if limbs are picked up?? Is that just to make sure that the waste contractor is doing what they say said they would do since the feds will end up paying for the debris removal?
Jeebus



It's done to justify more salaries for more jobs we don't need the federal government doing.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: Radar on January 03, 2008, 10:43:21 AM
We have a medium size pile in our yard. Our neighbor to the north has a large pile, neighbor to the south doesn't have anything. Why? Because he's putting his stuff on our pile. WTH??? Who does that? It's not like I care really, I just can't believe he's doing it.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: Conan71 on January 03, 2008, 10:56:28 AM
My neighbors to the north and south had very little limb loss, I encouraged them to just put theirs on my pile.  That's a different thing altogether than what your neighbor did.

I bet he lets his dog crap in your yard too, or tosses those little bombs over the fence into your yard.  Some neighbors are just like that.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: tulsa1603 on January 03, 2008, 11:19:03 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Radar

We have a medium size pile in our yard. Our neighbor to the north has a large pile, neighbor to the south doesn't have anything. Why? Because he's putting his stuff on our pile. WTH??? Who does that? It's not like I care really, I just can't believe he's doing it.



LOL you wouldn't happen to be near 45th and Lewis, would you?  I heard of a guy over there doing the same thing.

I'm sick of the limbs.  I have a HUGE pile, most of it isn't even mine, it's the tree from across the street that landed there.  I'm probably going to have to reseed and/or sod after all this.  

I heard they were going to do midtown first and work out since we were hardest hit.  I say it should be inverse to when you got your power back.  Since I was out so long, I think my limbs should go first!!  [}:)]
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: sgrizzle on January 03, 2008, 12:11:03 PM
I have two branches in my pile.

I feel like I should add more so I don't seem snobby.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: RecycleMichael on January 03, 2008, 12:15:17 PM
I have three or four dump truck loads of branches by my curb. We bought the place for the trees and many of them dropped big branches.

I also have three ricks of wood drying in new found sunlight. Neighbors cut at least three more ricks of wood out of my branches at the curb and hauled them back to their homes.

Firewood and wine are really the only things that improve with age.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: bbriscoe on January 04, 2008, 08:59:18 AM
The mayor was on KRMG this morning saying how efficiently and quickly she wanted to get the branches picked up and how the bid process was nearly complete and all that.  She was also asked why city crews couldn't have already started the job and she gave some lame excuse about how they have regular jobs to do (like what, mowing the grass in the winter?) and having to reallocate resources.  Well this was the biggest disaster in our history so maybe that should qualify for a reallocation of resources.  

Two days ago my co-worker told me that Sapulpa was done picking up their branches.  Now with the widespread devatation in Tulsa, I don't expect us to be done yet, but why the h___ haven't we even gotten started by the time that little sapulpa is done?  

The slowness of governmental red-tape in this town is ridiculous.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: sgrizzle on January 04, 2008, 10:16:17 AM
quote:
Originally posted by bbriscoe

The mayor was on KRMG this morning saying how efficiently and quickly she wanted to get the branches picked up and how the bid process was nearly complete and all that.  She was also asked why city crews couldn't have already started the job and she gave some lame excuse about how they have regular jobs to do (like what, mowing the grass in the winter?) and having to reallocate resources.  Well this was the biggest disaster in our history so maybe that should qualify for a reallocation of resources.  

Two days ago my co-worker told me that Sapulpa was done picking up their branches.  Now with the widespread devatation in Tulsa, I don't expect us to be done yet, but why the h___ haven't we even gotten started by the time that little sapulpa is done?  

The slowness of governmental red-tape in this town is ridiculous.



The city crews had to open two temporary greenwaste sites, clears branches from roadways and other tasks. There is enough being hauled off by individuals to keep every person on the city payroll busy. Broken Arrow said they weren't starting until January either.

If you had cut your limbs to appropriate standards for trash service, they'd be gone by now.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: bbriscoe on January 04, 2008, 10:40:04 AM
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I have three or four dump truck loads of branches by my curb. We bought the place for the trees and many of them dropped big branches.

I also have three ricks of wood drying in new found sunlight. Neighbors cut at least three more ricks of wood out of my branches at the curb and hauled them back to their homes.

Firewood and wine are really the only things that improve with age.



How long before this new wood is ready to burn.  Seems like it should be real good since it all got cut down in the winter when the branches aren't green.  I've already burned a few small pieces mixed in with some older stuff and it burned fine.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: TeeDub on January 04, 2008, 10:44:43 AM

It was always my understanding that you want to let wood "cure" for at least a year before burning.

Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: bbriscoe on January 04, 2008, 10:50:37 AM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by bbriscoe

The mayor was on KRMG this morning saying how efficiently and quickly she wanted to get the branches picked up and how the bid process was nearly complete and all that.  She was also asked why city crews couldn't have already started the job and she gave some lame excuse about how they have regular jobs to do (like what, mowing the grass in the winter?) and having to reallocate resources.  Well this was the biggest disaster in our history so maybe that should qualify for a reallocation of resources.  

Two days ago my co-worker told me that Sapulpa was done picking up their branches.  Now with the widespread devatation in Tulsa, I don't expect us to be done yet, but why the h___ haven't we even gotten started by the time that little sapulpa is done?  

The slowness of governmental red-tape in this town is ridiculous.



The city crews had to open two temporary greenwaste sites, clears branches from roadways and other tasks. There is enough being hauled off by individuals to keep every person on the city payroll busy. Broken Arrow said they weren't starting until January either.

If you had cut your limbs to appropriate standards for trash service, they'd be gone by now.



That's not even close to true grizzle - there are loads of small branch piles the right size around my neighborhood and the trash service hasn't picked up any of them. I'm not even sure if they will pick up my Christmas tree this year.  We will see today.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: tulsascoot on January 04, 2008, 06:52:23 PM
You all could pick them up yourself and take them to the green dump. Or just wait for the city, and complain.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: dggriffi on January 04, 2008, 07:22:53 PM
you can burn freshly cut wood but done in any season it will still be "green".  Dry or "seasoned" wood burns much hotter and is much more efficient.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: sgrizzle on January 04, 2008, 10:07:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by bbriscoe


That's not even close to true grizzle - there are loads of small branch piles the right size around my neighborhood and the trash service hasn't picked up any of them. I'm not even sure if they will pick up my Christmas tree this year.  We will see today.



I know of trash collectors in multiple areas picking up debris that is bagged or bundled with the trash. Proper preparation is no longer than 4' and tied. They aren't gonna try to clean up loose branches in the dark.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: Steve on January 04, 2008, 10:41:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by bbriscoe

Any updates on when this junk will get picked up?  Will our regular trash service pickup our Christmas trees?



I heard on the TV news tonight (1-4-08) that starting Monday 1-7, the firm that the City has contracted with will have triple the collection crews on the streets.  My best guess is that it will take through February to clean up all this mess.  Hold tight, we are all in the same boat.  I don't think anyone is getting priority service over anyone else.  And today, in trees around my house, there are still more branches falling because of the winds.  The saga continues....
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: TheArtist on January 05, 2008, 11:37:00 AM
Is there any particular size we have to cut the limbs down to so that this company will pick them up? Or can we just drag the whole tree over near the curb and they will deal with it? [:P]
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: TUalum0982 on January 05, 2008, 12:47:13 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

Is there any particular size we have to cut the limbs down to so that this company will pick them up? Or can we just drag the whole tree over near the curb and they will deal with it? [:P]



I believe they said they wanted them cut to 4-5ft lengths.  



Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: TUalum0982 on January 05, 2008, 12:48:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by tulsascoot

You all could pick them up yourself and take them to the green dump. Or just wait for the city, and complain.



yeah that's what I was thinking also.  I helped my parents take 10 loads of trees to the sites at 71st and Elwood and 61st and Riverside.  If you didnt have 4WD at 61st and Riverside, you were almost gauranteed to get stuck.  It was pretty nasty out there.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: tulsa1603 on January 05, 2008, 05:56:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982

quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

Is there any particular size we have to cut the limbs down to so that this company will pick them up? Or can we just drag the whole tree over near the curb and they will deal with it? [:P]



I believe they said they wanted them cut to 4-5ft lengths.  







So the huge HUGE HUGE tree from across the street that fell across the road, then was placed in MY yard by the city when they came through to clear it for traffic, has to be cut into 5' lengths by me??  [xx(]  I wish this information was being made more public earlier on.  I have a 60' long pile that is about 8' tall and 10' deep, so now I'm supposed to cut it all into 5' lengths?  This stuff has NOT been publicized well.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: mr.jaynes on January 06, 2008, 12:11:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by bbriscoe

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I have three or four dump truck loads of branches by my curb. We bought the place for the trees and many of them dropped big branches.

I also have three ricks of wood drying in new found sunlight. Neighbors cut at least three more ricks of wood out of my branches at the curb and hauled them back to their homes.

Firewood and wine are really the only things that improve with age.



How long before this new wood is ready to burn.  Seems like it should be real good since it all got cut down in the winter when the branches aren't green.  I've already burned a few small pieces mixed in with some older stuff and it burned fine.



All this wood, it will make for a good supply of mulch come springtime....
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: Steve on January 06, 2008, 09:58:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by tulsa1603

quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982

quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

Is there any particular size we have to cut the limbs down to so that this company will pick them up? Or can we just drag the whole tree over near the curb and they will deal with it? [:P]


I believe they said they wanted them cut to 4-5ft lengths.  


So the huge HUGE HUGE tree from across the street that fell across the road, then was placed in MY yard by the city when they came through to clear it for traffic, has to be cut into 5' lengths by me??  [xx(]  I wish this information was being made more public earlier on.  I have a 60' long pile that is about 8' tall and 10' deep, so now I'm supposed to cut it all into 5' lengths?  This stuff has NOT been publicized well.



No, that is not the way I understand it.  All fallen tree debris left by the curb on your property will eventually be picked up by the city contractors, and does not have to be cut or bundled in 4' lengths.  You do have to drag all debris onto the City 5' right of way.  They will be clearing neighborhoods, one at a time.  Of course, there will be a multitude of small sticks and twigs left over, left to you to rake and bag, but the giant limbs will be picked up by the city.  (And this is apparently only for City of Tulsa residents.)  At this point is is purely a waiting game, as to when the clean-up crews will hit your neighborhood.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: booWorld on January 06, 2008, 10:27:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982

quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

Is there any particular size we have to cut the limbs down to so that this company will pick them up? Or can we just drag the whole tree over near the curb and they will deal with it? [:P]



I believe they said they wanted them cut to 4-5ft lengths.  






From the December 13th Tulsa World (//%22http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=071213_1_A1_Homeo31465%22):

quote:

Homeowners wanting to get rid of their fallen tree limbs should simply take them to the curb for collection.

It's not necessary to break them down into bundles, said Dan Crossland, Public Works Department deputy director of public facilities.

"If you can get it out there, we will haul them away," said Crossland, adding that it will be several days. "We are still busy clearing the roadways."



Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: FOTD on January 07, 2008, 12:55:26 PM
Some of those folks in Forrest Hills are reaching when they have their property clear cut and then dump the limbs and debris for the city. 30th and Lewis today looked like who ever lives there just threw everything over the fence rather than doing their civic duty and pay for the total removal themselves....maybe they're having difficulty paying the mortgage....
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: PonderInc on January 07, 2008, 04:46:55 PM
I was originally worried about birds and squirrels losing their nests in the storm.  As soon as people started stacking up their brush piles, I've noticed that they immediately attracted the birds and squirrels.  Not sure if it's a replacement for a nest in a tree, but some the critters certainly hang out in these dense thickets.

My aunt used to clear trees from her pasture using a brush hog.  They'd stack up all the brush in a big pile and she would always plan on burning them off when the weather was conducive.  Invaribly, she'd notice all the creatures who had taken up residence in her brush piles, and never had the heart to burn them....
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: RecycleMichael on January 07, 2008, 05:56:04 PM
I can't wait till they open up Oxley Nature Center. All the downed limbs there are probably filled with critters.

Going to Oxley right before sundown is an amazing experience with nature for the whole family.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: Radar on January 07, 2008, 11:08:00 PM
We aren't talking about puppies or kittens, these brush piles need to go.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: FOTD on January 07, 2008, 11:36:01 PM
It would help if the affluent neighborhoods hire local private crews to 1)help the local economy and 2) allow the city to concentrate on areas that can least afford the existing financial burden brought on by the ice storm of the century.

It's as though many in Tulsa want to rely on a government subsidy.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: tulsa1603 on January 08, 2008, 12:08:09 AM
quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

It would help if the affluent neighborhoods hire local private crews to 1)help the local economy and 2) allow the city to concentrate on areas that can least afford the existing financial burden brought on by the ice storm of the century.

It's as though many in Tulsa want to rely on a government subsidy.



I spend quite a bit of time in the more affluent areas, and many of those homeowners ARE paying private firms to clear their branches and haul them off.  Sure, some are putting them out at the curb, but aren't they entitled to the free removal as much as anyone else?  I know of one client who had a $40,000 tree trimming bill (included haul off), and that's not easy to stomach no matter how wealthy you might be.  I have another client who actually did a lot of the clean up himself.  This is a burden on everyone.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: FOTD on January 08, 2008, 12:29:50 AM
quote:
Originally posted by tulsa1603

quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

It would help if the affluent neighborhoods hire local private crews to 1)help the local economy and 2) allow the city to concentrate on areas that can least afford the existing financial burden brought on by the ice storm of the century.

It's as though many in Tulsa want to rely on a government subsidy.




I spend quite a bit of time in the more affluent areas, and many of those homeowners ARE paying private firms to clear their branches and haul them off.  Sure, some are putting them out at the curb, but aren't they entitled to the free removal as much as anyone else?  I know of one client who had a $40,000 tree trimming bill (included haul off), and that's not easy to stomach no matter how wealthy you might be.  I have another client who actually did a lot of the clean up himself.  This is a burden on everyone.



Just making the point that private homeowners need to do more than purposely putting all the debris on the streets when simultaneously they have crews there cutting the trees down.


Substantial funds expended here too and it included hauling off the limbs and all the ancient black jack oaks lost rather than letting debris pile up. All my neighbors did likely except for one but they are continuing to trim and clean before they have the remains hauled off.

Just trying to help along the trickle down theory. Lots of debris. They say end of March. Bet it's longer. Hope not. It is an incredible site still to this day. Amazing all the damage.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: bbriscoe on January 08, 2008, 08:55:02 AM
quote:
Originally posted by FOTD


It's as though many in Tulsa want to rely on a government subsidy.



Its fine with me if the City would just unincorporate my house, then I could just burn the entire pile and be done with it today.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: Breadburner on January 08, 2008, 09:57:33 AM
They should be taken to the Trees to Energy Plant......
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: TulsaSue on January 09, 2008, 09:17:39 PM
So has anyone seen these out-of-state workers yet? Has anyone's tree limbs been picked up?  What do you guys know about where they are?  My son said that someone at his school has had their tree limbs picked up but he wasn't able to find out where they lived. We don't know if we should wait or pay a fortune to get them hauled off.  Please let us know if you hear anything.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: charky on January 10, 2008, 09:07:51 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TulsaSue

So has anyone seen these out-of-state workers yet? Has anyone's tree limbs been picked up?  What do you guys know about where they are?  My son said that someone at his school has had their tree limbs picked up but he wasn't able to find out where they lived. We don't know if we should wait or pay a fortune to get them hauled off.  Please let us know if you hear anything.



Yes. They were in our neighborhood yesterday (55th and Urbana). Of course I had my truck parked along the curb (idiot) and they couldn't get my limbs.

They told my wife that they'll make a few more passes...so if you have more limbs...get them out to the curb.

Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: sgrizzle on January 10, 2008, 09:14:20 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TulsaSue

So has anyone seen these out-of-state workers yet? Has anyone's tree limbs been picked up?  What do you guys know about where they are?  My son said that someone at his school has had their tree limbs picked up but he wasn't able to find out where they lived. We don't know if we should wait or pay a fortune to get them hauled off.  Please let us know if you hear anything.



Wait, it will take awhile but it's free. They weren't even all here until Yesterday (the 9th) to get started.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: sgrizzle on January 10, 2008, 09:14:52 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Breadburner

They should be taken to the Trees to Energy Plant......



Rumor monger
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: NellieBly on January 10, 2008, 09:18:25 AM
They started in my neighborhood yesterday (Johansen Acres). Didn't get much done and they only took the big ones. There are still large piles of all sizes of branches, though. They also made a mess, leaving sticks in the street. Apparently they are going to come back through and finish cleaning up smaller piles later.

Don't bag the smaller bundles. Use them as kindling in a fireplace or outdoor fire pit. At least just tie them up in bundles for the regular trash. Don't bag yard waste!!
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: Townsend on January 10, 2008, 10:06:30 AM
Mapped Schedule

http://www.cityoftulsa.org/documents/DebrisRemovalMap01-09-2008_1.pdf

Supposed to be updated daily.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: AngieB on January 10, 2008, 12:12:48 PM
Thanks for the map link!

I just saw my first limb grabber truck at 21st & Yorktown.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: MichaelBates on January 10, 2008, 01:12:14 PM
Our side of 23rd Street west of Yale was picked up yesterday. It looks like they did a very thorough job.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: Conan71 on January 10, 2008, 01:46:37 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mr.jaynes

quote:
Originally posted by bbriscoe

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I have three or four dump truck loads of branches by my curb. We bought the place for the trees and many of them dropped big branches.

I also have three ricks of wood drying in new found sunlight. Neighbors cut at least three more ricks of wood out of my branches at the curb and hauled them back to their homes.

Firewood and wine are really the only things that improve with age.



How long before this new wood is ready to burn.  Seems like it should be real good since it all got cut down in the winter when the branches aren't green.  I've already burned a few small pieces mixed in with some older stuff and it burned fine.



All this wood, it will make for a good supply of mulch come springtime....



Not the kind of mulch you want near your house or garage, unless you like termites and other bug critters to live along your foundation.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: dgoldsm on January 10, 2008, 08:05:18 PM
[^]Why doesn't Tulsa go green?

Has anyone suggested using the fallen trees, limbs, and branches for building materials?

Why not sell the natural resource to a company that could make plywood or particle board?

Couldn't this also be material used by Habitat for Humanity
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: sgrizzle on January 10, 2008, 08:23:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by dgoldsm

[^]Why doesn't Tulsa go green?

Has anyone suggested using the fallen trees, limbs, and branches for building materials?

Why not sell the natural resource to a company that could make plywood or particle board?

Couldn't this also be material used by Habitat for Humanity



Right now they are just picking it up. Haven't heard much about the end product.

It could be used for particle board or similar products but it's doubtful you could make any decent sized wood material out of it.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: TulsaSue on January 11, 2008, 07:15:24 AM
Well, they picked up most of mine late yesterday.  I live in South Maple Ridge. A lot of my neighborhood still has piles. I guess I was lucky.  We live on a corner, and we still have some by one street, but the big pile is gone.  Whew!!!! Now I can deal with the leaves, etc. left over.  And my poor trees.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: joiei on January 11, 2008, 12:24:59 PM
I live and work in the Utica Square area and Swan Lake area.  I have not seen one of those trucks yet?  What do they look like?
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: NellieBly on January 11, 2008, 01:03:42 PM
You can't miss them. Big truck with a trailer. They have a big yellow claw they use to pick up the branches.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: TulsaSue on January 12, 2008, 08:43:24 AM
The ones I've seen have double beds. They are VERY BIG! Some are black and some are yellow. Only my block on my street is picked up.  I'm not complaining, but I don't understand their method. Maybe they're going around blocks rather than up and down streets.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: TUalum0982 on January 12, 2008, 12:12:28 PM
Didnt see this mentioned so I thought I would throw it out...the dump site at 71st and Elwood west of the river is closing tomorrow (sunday) @ 5pm.  I would suggest getting there no later then 415pm as they dont let anyone in after around 430pm or so.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: NellieBly on January 13, 2008, 09:52:24 AM
They picked up about a fourth of my limbs yesterday. They work pretty fast.

I really have a problem with the big hydrolic/oil stains that have appeared every five feet along the streets in their wake. It's a real mess.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: Steve on January 13, 2008, 11:29:37 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TulsaSue

The ones I've seen have double beds. They are VERY BIG! Some are black and some are yellow. Only my block on my street is picked up.  I'm not complaining, but I don't understand their method. Maybe they're going around blocks rather than up and down streets.



I don't understand their methods either.  They have been driving down my street (26th between Yale/Darlington) for several days now, and cleared 7 contiguous yards on the north side of my street yesterday.  I still have my giant pile.  Then they disappeared after 2:00 PM.  I guess beggars can't be choosers; I really wasn't expecting to see them at all until much later.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: jne on January 14, 2008, 09:30:05 AM
I'm near 31st and Harvard.  I still haven't seen any of these big trucks, but I guess they are working nearby in the daytime.  All I've noticed is what looks like private removal services in light pickup trucks and small trailers.  Just looked at the map - apparantly, I'm in sub-zone J (not yet started).  If it doesn't happen soon, I may just have to get a few friends over here and take care of it myself. I would be glad to do so if I had the time right now, but I have no problem  letting my tax dollars provide some help. Does 1.5  million for contracted inspectors sound a little steep to anyone else for a 3 million dollar project?
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: Steve on January 14, 2008, 09:57:39 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by TulsaSue

The ones I've seen have double beds. They are VERY BIG! Some are black and some are yellow. Only my block on my street is picked up.  I'm not complaining, but I don't understand their method. Maybe they're going around blocks rather than up and down streets.



I don't understand their methods either.  They have been driving down my street (26th between Yale/Darlington) for several days now, and cleared 7 contiguous yards on the north side of my street yesterday.  I still have my giant pile.  Then they disappeared after 2:00 PM.  I guess beggars can't be choosers; I really wasn't expecting to see them at all until much later.



They cleaned up my debris this morning at 8:20 AM and should have my block (26th & Yale) finished by noon today.  There is a god.  Now all I have to do is rake up and bag minor twigs left by the curb and I am done with it.  At least until the next ice storm or "microburst."
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: Townsend on January 15, 2008, 04:44:52 PM
http://www.kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=143063

FEMA Denies Individual Aid
AP - 1/15/2008 4:25 PM - Updated 1/15/2008 4:28 PM
OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) -- The federal government has denied Oklahoma's request to help repair uninsured damage suffered by victims of last month's ice storm. Oklahoma Governor Brad Henry said Tuesday he is disappointed and frustrated that the Federal Emergency Management Agency rejected the state's request for individual assistance. He says he plans to appeal the ruling.

Henry requested individual assistance on Jan. 9 for residents of Oklahoma and Tulsa counties. He said then that more counties will be added to the request if individual assistance is approved for the state's two most populous counties.

The December ice storm knocked out power to more than 640,000 Oklahoma homes and businesses, many of which were not able to have power restored for more than a week.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: tulsa1603 on January 16, 2008, 09:07:28 PM
Driving down Riverside today, I noticed that the park at 61st is becoming a MOUNTAIN of debris.  What are they going to do with it all?  Are they hauling it all there, then hauling it all somewhere else?  That would seem inefficient..  It's so big, i can't imagine they'll burn it....and all it would take is one imbalanced person and a pack of matches to cause a HUGE disaster.  Anyone know the details of what's going to happen with it?
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: safetyguy on January 16, 2008, 09:45:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by tulsa1603

Driving down Riverside today, I noticed that the park at 61st is becoming a MOUNTAIN of debris.  What are they going to do with it all?  Are they hauling it all there, then hauling it all somewhere else?  That would seem inefficient..  It's so big, i can't imagine they'll burn it....and all it would take is one imbalanced person and a pack of matches to cause a HUGE disaster.  Anyone know the details of what's going to happen with it?



I thought another contractor was going to mulch it down... We will have mulch coming out of every orifice!!
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: patric on January 17, 2008, 12:03:17 PM
I cant figure out any rhyme or reason to some of the collection...
The claw crew was here at 7am Sunday and picked up about half a dozen houses on our side of the street.  They made it through half the pile across the street before leaving again, but this time they didnt come back and havent been seen since.
Wonder what that was about?

EDIT:  They returned Friday afternoon, but not where they left off.  Wonder if that counts as the "second pass"?
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: jne on January 18, 2008, 12:51:22 PM
My area has now been lit up as a 'first pass in progress' site for a few days now. I still haven't seen any progress.  You seen any trucks around Cannon?  Its a very small segment, it seems like you would see something immediately if work were actually started in the area.  Does 'work in progress' mean, gassing up cars, outfitting monitors, taking a look at the map, and "fixin' to pick up them sticks"??
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: dayzella on January 18, 2008, 01:01:24 PM
They did a first pass on our house on Wednesday - took a teeny end off the 5 foot high line that went all the way down our curb and then the branch picker-uppers took off again.

I thought that they weren't really going to come back, that I might as well go ahead and rename the house Fort Fairgrounds and work with the Nature Conservancy to turn the front yard into a wildlife retreat ...

On Thursday, the branch picker-uppers came back.  And they must have brought an empty truck bed with them, because all of our branches have been taken.  We are now branch free.  Free of branch!  Woo!

:)
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: citizen72 on January 20, 2008, 03:35:54 PM
We live in Chimney Hills. Our branches were picked up this past week. Did a really good job. We are quite pleased.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: RecycleMichael on January 20, 2008, 05:30:54 PM
My property stretches lengthwise through the whole block. They got half of mine on Friday (the west side), and I hope they get the east side soon. They did a pretty good job and have done 3 or 4 hundred homes in my neighborhood in a week.

I got a bunch of firewood, probably more than I can burn in ten years, but still had plenty of branches too small to do much with. I have a chipper that handles a branch up to an inch and a half, but this much would have taken hundreds of hours to grind.

My props to the guys for doing a "tree"-mendous job. In the words of Elvis, "thank you, thank you very mulch."
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: citizen72 on January 20, 2008, 06:35:47 PM
Yes thank you so very much.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: Steve on January 20, 2008, 06:41:05 PM
I can't complain as my debris was picked up 6 days ago, but there is still a section of my midtown street that they have not touched.

I noticed in my subdivision Lortondale they have gone down most all east/west streets to date with the first pass, but they have not touched any debris left on the north/south running streets.  Friends of mine in Ranch Acres say the opposite is true in their neighborhood.  I have not seen any debris trucks in my neighborhood in about 3 days.  Doesn't seem to be much method in the madness.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: ARGUS on January 25, 2008, 02:31:41 AM
Vector Vector! Please come here Mr. Tree Limb picker-upper. One truck drove down my street but alas did not stop....ruined my whole day!
Perhaps this 7 day work week should be cut back to 6 days a week so they could have time to spend the money here toooooo!
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: AngieB on January 25, 2008, 06:35:37 AM
Debris removal map updated 01/24
http://cityoftulsa.org/documents/DebrisRemovalMap01-24-2008.pdf
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: jne on January 25, 2008, 12:46:45 PM
My large pile remains...
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: joiei on January 25, 2008, 01:09:45 PM
I still see lots of piles in Upper Midtown, 41st to 11th and Lewis to the river
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: patric on January 28, 2008, 11:44:01 AM
When the claw crew was last here on the 18th, they left a row of about six houses behind and have since moved on to another neighborhood.
They left midway through one neighbors pile.

Thought one of the $15/hr inspectors might have caught that...
Oversight or cutting corners?
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: sgrizzle on January 28, 2008, 12:17:23 PM
According to the CoT map, they haven't really cleared anywhere in midtown yet.
http://cityoftulsa.org/documents/DebrisRemovalMap01-25-2008.pdf
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: ARGUS on February 02, 2008, 11:30:08 AM
They got mine!!!! YeeeHaw! Well almost all of my branches....one of my brushpiles wea too far from the curb....it was a huge pile of HUGE logs.
Here's a question: WHY DID THE CITY VOLUNTEER TO DO THIS ANYWAY???? IT SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS ON OUR OWN AS INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: brunoflipper on February 02, 2008, 11:42:34 AM
they took all of ours yesterday...

funny thing is, there are christmas trees up and down the block... everyone had thrown them on the piles and, i guess, the debris gang decide they were not their responsibility...
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: Wilbur on February 02, 2008, 06:43:25 PM
I don't get it.  They came into my neighborhood and hit a block or two.  The city's website showed our neighborhood was currently being worked on.  But then, they didn't show up again for over a week and the city's website showed them not working in our area.  Today, they were back for a little bit, but then left again and the city's website does not show them in my area.

Not complaining.  Just don't understand.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: patric on February 02, 2008, 10:53:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Wilbur

Not complaining.  Just don't understand.


Councilor Maria Barnes was too kind when she described the useful(less)ness of the city's cleanup map.

Seems like there are a lot of gaps in the pickup to be considered systematic at this point.  They stopped halfway through one of my neighbors about two weeks ago, so im wondering if they broke down and passed us on to another crew.

I know it's a big job (and a lot of citizens are glad they dont have to tackle it alone) but I think it's going to be a lot bigger than even the city imagined.  

3 Million Cubic Yards and rising...
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: EricP on February 03, 2008, 11:15:58 AM
I paid a friend of a friend 50 bucks to pick up our pile which consisted of an entire 20 year old bradford pear. Had it done by Christmas. In reality I think the pickup for the city will continue well into April, May... who knows.

This week the new tree will be going in while the rest of the neighborhood will be waiting for limb pickup at LEAST another month (I live in BA.) I know not everyone can afford it, but I'll be damned if I am going to let all that crap sit in my yard.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: bokworker on February 04, 2008, 11:28:03 AM
Question for RM.... there have been a couple of cold mornings lately that I noticed steam coming out of the huge piles of mulched debris at 61st and Riverside.... what are the chances that we get some sort of a spontanious combustion bon-fire going?
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: safetyguy on February 04, 2008, 11:55:33 AM
quote:


3 Million Cubic Yards and rising...



I was at a meeting recently that Mike McCool (Emergency Management Director) spoke at and at that point they estimated 2 million cubic yards of waste. Considering that on average most of the contractors trucks can haul 100 cubic yards at a time that equals 20,000 truckloads!!

It's a good thing the contractors are using Hybrid dump trucks for this job to save on fuel costs!![}:)]
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: sgrizzle on February 04, 2008, 12:13:33 PM
I might worry about the mulch pile burning more than the limbs...

I've heard the 3 million cubic yards estimate as well.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: jne on February 08, 2008, 08:41:47 AM
Looks like the map has been wiped clean.  The world shows zones scheduled.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20080207_222__Tulsa64430

Looks like my area is not going to be addressed any time soon...
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: Wilbur on February 08, 2008, 11:06:49 AM
Looks like the City has dropped the map idea in favor of a list.  And, of course, the list is incorrect, at least for my area of town.

Come on folks.  It's not that difficult.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: jne on February 08, 2008, 11:09:07 AM
Are there any drop off sites still open?  I may have to take this into my own hands. I'm sick of watching this pile kill the grass and collect trash.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: jne on February 09, 2008, 03:53:53 PM
I have seen a miracle.
My limbs are no more.
They made quick work and I would trust the dude working the arm to remove my appendix with that big claw!
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: Wilbur on February 09, 2008, 04:47:57 PM
Mine finally got picked up today too.  Took just over two loads!
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: Kashmir on February 10, 2008, 12:29:18 PM
quote:
Originally posted by jne

I have seen a miracle.
My limbs are no more.
They made quick work and I would trust the dude working the arm to remove my appendix with that big claw!



Ditto here!  The 4 year old had a blast watching the guys work.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: patric on February 18, 2008, 01:12:53 PM
They picked up our area on the LAST day of the "first pass" today.  Had to laugh.
http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=7888141
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: Conan71 on February 18, 2008, 01:56:58 PM
Second pass came down my block this morning near 15th & Harvard.  Really doesn't mean anything to anyone else.  They still had not gotten the first pass until a week or so back just a block away.

I'm anxious to see how much of the twigs I've got left that they will take.  I've got a few hangers still up in the tree out front.  I'm guessing they will get blown out in the next 80 mph microburst this spring.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: patric on February 19, 2008, 12:05:03 PM
May have spoken to soon.  
While the first sweep is now officially "completed" here in midtown I can go a block in any direction and find piles untouched since December.
Most of the piles are too large to have been blocked just by a vehicle parked in the street, so I dont have a clue as to their 'system'.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: ARGUS on February 19, 2008, 04:10:34 PM
31st and Lewis second pass was made this morning.
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: Steve on February 20, 2008, 07:46:57 PM
The second pass came down my street on Monday, 2-18.  26th street between Yale & Darlington.

I want to know what can be done about residents that don't care about their debris.  The neighbor next door to me has waist-high tree limbs all along the sides and back of his property, yet he has done nothing to move this debis to the curb for "FREE" pickup.  I have oftered to help him clear his lot, to deaf ears.  He just doesn't seem to care. Do I just have to wait and then file a code enforcement complaint to get this slob to clear his lot?
Title: What's the deal with the tree branches?
Post by: tulsa1603 on February 21, 2008, 02:37:52 PM
Mine (FLorence Park) are all gone as of Tuesday.  I raked and swept up all the leaves and remaining twigs, but the trash men didn't take the bundled twigs.  So now I have two relatively small bundles of twigs that I guess will have to wait until the third pass??  WE're talking SMALL bundles.  I guess the trash service must be on orders not to take any limb-like material while this is going on. [xx(]  I might sneak them into a garbage bag just to be rid of all remnants of that mess.  Just glad to be able to use my sidewalk and steps again!