Found this on another forum that I frequent "SkyscraperPage" and had to share. You can imagine the responses it got. This is the most baffling thing I have ever seen. Its unreal.
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3294/parkinghoustonec9.jpg)
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Originally posted by TheArtist
Found this on another forum that I frequent "SkyscraperPage" and had to share. You can imagine the responses it got. This is the most baffling thing I have ever seen. Its unreal.
If you look real close, you can see a tree!
I've always kinda' wondered what hell looked like...
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
I've always kinda' wondered what hell looked like...
And if you've been to Houston in July you know what hell looks AND feels like.
They could use a little more parking, I think
Hmm? I don't remember where I parked?
Perhaps I should put a tennis ball on my antenna next time.
...thought it were Tulsa at first.
But, many of their parking spaces have cars in them.
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Originally posted by Wrinkle
...thought it were Tulsa at first.
But, many of their parking spaces have cars in them.
Lol. I thought it was amazing to find a downtown worse than Tulsas. I thought we were the worst period. Its baffling that there is so much parking, but its equally baffling that there are so many cars. They must have a good economy and busy businesses, but at the same time, if that were the case then you would think more businesses would want to locate there or businesses to take advantage of the people. Though its probably empty in the evenings. Definitely no foot traffic. I wonder if the suburbanites there complain that there isnt any place to park like they complain about it here? Perhaps its just an area where there are a bunch of car dealerships?
At first glance prior to reading your caption, I thought the city had been carpet-bombed or a tornado had ripped through.
There's got to be a AWESOME mall at the other end of that parking lot.
I'm sorry to rain on the parade, but that picture is at LEAST 20 years old, probably close to 30 years old. While there is indeed still plenty of surface parking in downtown Houston, a great many of the lots in that picture no longer exist.
I don't know about the age of the photo, but was questioning if it even actually downtown Houston. Seems more like the west end Galleria area or such.
all those cars were people from Tulsa who had moved to Houston. Houston now has buildings for them.
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Originally posted by inteller
all those cars were people from Tulsa who had moved to Houston. Houston now has buildings for them.
Ouch. Luckily Tulsa demolished their buildings and replaced them with surface parking!
Downtown Houston 2007
(http://media.ketknbc.com/images/downtown-houston-4a.jpg)
Large ariel view, showing plenty of remaining surface parking (2.5megs):
http://www.oneparkplacehouston.com/images/pressroom/ariel_view.jpg
and I have to say that picture makes downtown look less dense than it is. it is like the opposite of the various tulsa pictures that make Tulsa look more dense than what it is.
Any view from street level will make it look more dense since surface parking adds nothing to perspective - that is to say, you can not see it on a level photo. The tall buildings layer each other and add depth in a surface photo, thereby negating any space between them.
The picture above is pretty reflective of the total density - else look at the larger picture I linked to and you can see even in the middle of the large buildings there is surface parking. If you want the best perspective download a copy of Google Earth and take a walk around.
Downtown Houston is about as dense as the built-up portion of downtown Tulsa. Just Tulsa's area and buildings are not as large. Well, a few other notable differences (new buildings, people...)
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
Downtown Houston is about as dense as the built-up portion of downtown Tulsa.
still competing for the horse**** comment of the year? How can you type that with a straight face? Have you even been to Houston?
I'm all for growth and spread. A city can't be all squashed into a small area. I see jobs and a booming economy when I look at the photo. It is a old photo you can tell by looking at the shape of the cars. As for the comment about the trees, The trees in Tulsa have caused enough trouble if ya ask me. Trees belong in a forest not next to buildings and homes where people live. I like trees as much as the next guy, but to me everything has it's place. JMO, Thanx.[:)]
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Originally posted by inteller
How can you type that with a straight face?
Wow, calm down man.
The Boston and Main area of Tulsa is very built up and dense. From there to the BOk Tower and about a block on either side... that is the "built up" area I am referring to. It has an occasional surface lot but by and large is built up. Next to that area it descends into many surface lots, small scale buildings, with an occasional tall structure. By the time you get to the arena it is mostly surface lots and smaller buildings.
Just like Houston, but on a smaller scale on all accounts. I'm not saying downtown Tulsa competes with downtown Houston so breath a little bit. Simply making a comparison. Downtown Houston is not filled in as much as man other cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, San Fran, Phili and on...).
Here, I'll post this again:
http://www.oneparkplacehouston.com/images/pressroom/ariel_view.jpg
I don't want to post the pic because it's huge. I hope you'll see what I mean since it is spot on. Then calm down and avoid freaking out because I mentioned that downtown Houston has similarities to Tulsa.
I think some trees in a city is just fine. But whoever came up with the idea of putting ice on them like that ought to be fired. I can understand the sentement, it looking pretty and all, but they went waaay overboard with the application.
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Originally posted by TheArtist
I think some trees in a city is just fine. But whoever came up with the idea of putting ice on them like that ought to be fired. I can understand the sentement, it looking pretty and all, but they went waaay overboard with the application.
God decided it was time to redecorate and get rid of those dreadful Bradford pear trees. Too bad a lot of big oaks, birch's, and elms got taken out as well.
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
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Originally posted by inteller
How can you type that with a straight face?
Wow, calm down man.
The Boston and Main area of Tulsa is very built up and dense. From there to the BOk Tower and about a block on either side... that is the "built up" area I am referring to. It has an occasional surface lot but by and large is built up. Next to that area it descends into many surface lots, small scale buildings, with an occasional tall structure. By the time you get to the arena it is mostly surface lots and smaller buildings.
Just like Houston, but on a smaller scale on all accounts. I'm not saying downtown Tulsa competes with downtown Houston so breath a little bit. Simply making a comparison. Downtown Houston is not filled in as much as man other cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, San Fran, Phili and on...).
Here, I'll post this again:
http://www.oneparkplacehouston.com/images/pressroom/ariel_view.jpg
I don't want to post the pic because it's huge. I hope you'll see what I mean since it is spot on. Then calm down and avoid freaking out because I mentioned that downtown Houston has similarities to Tulsa.
you made a statement that downtown houston was "about as" dense as tulsa....implying that it is not as dense as Tulsa which is wrong on so many fronts.
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Originally posted by inteller
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
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Originally posted by inteller
How can you type that with a straight face?
Wow, calm down man.
The Boston and Main area of Tulsa is very built up and dense. From there to the BOk Tower and about a block on either side... that is the "built up" area I am referring to. It has an occasional surface lot but by and large is built up. Next to that area it descends into many surface lots, small scale buildings, with an occasional tall structure. By the time you get to the arena it is mostly surface lots and smaller buildings.
Just like Houston, but on a smaller scale on all accounts. I'm not saying downtown Tulsa competes with downtown Houston so breath a little bit. Simply making a comparison. Downtown Houston is not filled in as much as man other cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, San Fran, Phili and on...).
Here, I'll post this again:
http://www.oneparkplacehouston.com/images/pressroom/ariel_view.jpg
I don't want to post the pic because it's huge. I hope you'll see what I mean since it is spot on. Then calm down and avoid freaking out because I mentioned that downtown Houston has similarities to Tulsa.
you made a statement that downtown houston was "about as" dense as tulsa....implying that it is not as dense as Tulsa which is wrong on so many fronts.
No, he said that a portion of downtown Tulsa had equivalent density to downtown Houston. Comparing subsets of data. I realize that might be far too complex a concept for you, but do try to overachieve in the comprehension department just this once.
The point was to give the readers who have never been to downtown Houston a relative example of the density one would find. This was a point clearly understood by everyone... except you.
1. "About as" does not imply either side has an advantage. It is a phrase that conveys the impression that the two related items are similar. I am "about as tall" as Ben Uzoh. That does not mean he nor I am necessarily taller. That phrase carrying that meaning is "almost as."
That's why there are two separate phrases.
2. Aside from common meaning in the English language, this meaning could be further diffused from the sentence in which it was used:
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Downtown Houston is about as dense as the built-up portion of downtown Tulsa. Just Tulsa's area and buildings are not as large. Well, a few other notable differences (new buildings, people...)
See that there the building and area is not as large, one could construe the density was not as great.
3. On top of that, I specified the "built-up portion of downtown Tulsa," which would
imply that only a select portion of Tulsa compares to downtown Houston. Thus, seeing that only a portion of downtown compares one should deduce that as a whole downtown Tulsa is not as dense as Houston.
4. Who really cares? Dear god man, you felt the need to attack me and swear on the boards over a post?
If it really means that much to you:
Tulsa's downtown is far inferior to Houston and in no way should the similarities in surface parking ever be made, referenced, or compared.
Better?
Is that a real image or has it been photoshopped?
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Originally posted by Ed W
Is that a real image or has it been photoshopped?
I think it's a real image. But as noted above, it is a real OLD image.
And it is only an image of the outskirts of downtown Houston. (Sort of like posting a picture of the portion of downtown Tulsa showing only the portions EAST of Detroit and pretending that it shows us "downtown Tulsa")
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Originally posted by AVERAGE JOE
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Originally posted by inteller
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
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Originally posted by inteller
How can you type that with a straight face?
Wow, calm down man.
The Boston and Main area of Tulsa is very built up and dense. From there to the BOk Tower and about a block on either side... that is the "built up" area I am referring to. It has an occasional surface lot but by and large is built up. Next to that area it descends into many surface lots, small scale buildings, with an occasional tall structure. By the time you get to the arena it is mostly surface lots and smaller buildings.
Just like Houston, but on a smaller scale on all accounts. I'm not saying downtown Tulsa competes with downtown Houston so breath a little bit. Simply making a comparison. Downtown Houston is not filled in as much as man other cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, San Fran, Phili and on...).
Here, I'll post this again:
http://www.oneparkplacehouston.com/images/pressroom/ariel_view.jpg
I don't want to post the pic because it's huge. I hope you'll see what I mean since it is spot on. Then calm down and avoid freaking out because I mentioned that downtown Houston has similarities to Tulsa.
you made a statement that downtown houston was "about as" dense as tulsa....implying that it is not as dense as Tulsa which is wrong on so many fronts.
No, he said that a portion of downtown Tulsa had equivalent density to downtown Houston. Comparing subsets of data. I realize that might be far too complex a concept for you, but do try to overachieve in the comprehension department just this once.
The point was to give the readers who have never been to downtown Houston a relative example of the density one would find. This was a point clearly understood by everyone... except you.
as someone who visits Houston more often than I would like, any comparisons to Tulsa and Houston should stop at the words "Houston" and "Tulsa".
Yes, it's old. Houston isn't my fav city at all, but they are making huge strides in the downtown area to make it more liveable and with mass transportation.
IMO, I think Houston has many advantages over "T" Towne, it's near the coast, they have no income tax and lower gas tax. The cost of living is lower and The climate is much better, warmer and milder, The rainfall can be high at times but you can't have everything at least it's warm and they don't get much snow. Tulsa is too cold for much of the year, but Tulsa does have nice summers. Both Tulsa and Houston are port cities believe it or not. I'm a bit old fashioned and like to live in warmer climates, and sunny climates all year 'round- but that's just me.[B)]
That's true of a lot of people kraut, but generally it's economics that drives most relocation decisions. How many people decided to move to Minneapolis because it has really nice summers for 3 months a year and 6 full months of blistering cold winter? Des Moines is further North than Tulsa and has been in a recent boom. Albuquerque has similar weather and is booming. Kansas City is much colder, farther from the coast, and has been seeing great vitality recently.
Heck, Portland is dreary most of the time.
Seems to be economics plays a bigger roll than climate in most instances. Of course all the other factors come into play too, but so many varied climate cities are doing well: desert (Albuquerque, Vegas, Phoenix), rain forestish (Portland), coastal (Houston, San Diego), mountain (Denver area) and plains (KC). I hope Tulsa has the economics in place as well as infrastructure to attract new residents - only then would most people look at climate in my opinion.