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Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: RecycleMichael on December 24, 2007, 02:47:18 PM
It looks like the Freedom Mart people are going to open in the old Albertson's location.


We are getting closer to opening the doors of a community grocer for North Tulsa. I am excited to announce our first job fair December 28th
and 29th from 8-5 in the Rudisill Library Auditorum 1520 N. Hartford Tulsa, OK 74106. We plan to hire customer-focused individuals who can make your shopping experience one to remember.

Thank you very much and have a great holiday.

Corey Carolina
Human Resource Manager
Trinity Grocery Investments, LLC

Now hiring for the following positions:

Customer Service Manager

Meat/Deli Manager

Inventory Manager

Assistant Express Manager

Assistant Grocery Manager

Customer Service Specialist

Customer Specialist

Office Assistant

Sacker

Stocker

To apply please send resume to:

Email: HR@FREEDOM-MART.NET


Let's wish them well and support their efforts.

Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: Conan71 on December 25, 2007, 12:14:30 AM
Great news.  When I'm in the vicinity on business, I will be sure to try and stop in to support the effort.  I tend to be a drop-in shopper anyhow.  I probably hit at least 10 to 12 different store locations around Tulsa throughout the year for my normal grocery shopping.  

If they have great meat and produce, well I'll drive about anywhere for great meat and produce.
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: sgrizzle on December 25, 2007, 04:43:52 PM
Their website is top shelf....

http://freedom-mart.net/
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: RecycleMichael on December 25, 2007, 05:10:31 PM
I am not allowed to do much of the shopping at my household, especially for groceries. My wife does it all right, using coupons, tracking the prices of all staples, and planning the shopping around meals for the week.

I just look for stuff that looks good. I saw free-range, all natural boneless chicken breasts at the store the other day and didn't pay attention that they were over four dollars a pound. When I got home, my wife showed me where the same chicken parts were under two dollars a pound at a different store.

We don't have a grocery store closer than two miles from our home, so I just try to stop at a grocery during my route home. This store is only about two miles from my office and because they are going to be locally owned, might be a good choice for me.

I agree with Conan...I will drive out of my way for great meat and produce. Let's hope these guys make a store worth driving to.
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: Ibanez on December 25, 2007, 07:47:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

Their website is top shelf....

http://freedom-mart.net/



[:O]

That is terrible
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: YoungTulsan on December 25, 2007, 07:56:38 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

Their website is top shelf....

http://freedom-mart.net/



Dear god, that is like a window into 1996.
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: tulsascoot on December 25, 2007, 09:02:04 PM
It's really true, Freedom isn't free! Now we have a store for it. I want to go stock up on freedom as soon as they open.
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: sgrizzle on December 25, 2007, 11:05:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by tulsascoot

It's really true, Freedom isn't free! Now we have a store for it. I want to go stock up on freedom as soon as they open.



Freedom costs a buck 'oh five.
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: inteller on December 27, 2007, 07:12:51 AM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by tulsascoot

It's really true, Freedom isn't free! Now we have a store for it. I want to go stock up on freedom as soon as they open.



Freedom costs a buck 'oh five.



this will be great.  Tulsa needs another ethnic grocery store.
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: TeeDub on December 27, 2007, 10:21:42 AM

Freedom costs a buck o' five?  

Then why did that damn monster want tree fiddy?

God Dammit Loch Ness Monster, I ain't gonna give you no tree fiddy.
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: TheArtist on December 27, 2007, 01:40:44 PM
Well good. Glad to see a local group get together and do this.
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: RecycleMichael on December 27, 2007, 08:07:21 PM
I asked some development people about the group for what they know about them and it turns out they haven't even signed a lease yet.

I think it is odd that they would be having a job fair without even having a building.

I wonder what is going on?
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: tulsa_fan on December 27, 2007, 09:49:04 PM
That is odd, I hope its all good, but I forsee a "it's all Kathy Taylor's fault" if the store doesn't actually come to fruition.
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: RecycleMichael on December 27, 2007, 10:53:14 PM
Channel 8 did a story at 10pm that confirmed that the store location is still for sale. They interviewed a city official who said the potential new grocers were just checking out the labor pool.

Why would you have a job fair when there are no jobs? That doesn't seem very "fair" to the people coming out who need a job.

Stand in a line, fill out some paperwork and we will get back to you if we ever get our act together...
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: waterboy on December 28, 2007, 08:30:11 AM
quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

Channel 8 did a story at 10pm that confirmed that the store location is still for sale. They interviewed a city official who said the potential new grocers were just checking out the labor pool.

Why would you have a job fair when there are no jobs? That doesn't seem very "fair" to the people coming out who need a job.

Stand in a line, fill out some paperwork and we will get back to you if we ever get our act together...



Meanwhile, it stalls any effort by the other possible grocer that showed interest. What happened to the one from St.Louis area?
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: breitee on December 28, 2007, 08:50:52 AM
Check out the main web site. How embarrasing!

http://freedom-mart.net/index.htm
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: RecycleMichael on December 28, 2007, 08:52:53 AM
Good question. It is probably just a stunt to sidetrack the competition.

I really don't care who opens a grocery store there, as long as they do a good job and have a good selection of groceries. I would naturally cheer for the locals to do it before the guy from St. Louis, but getting it done and done right is more important to me.

Someone should go to the job fair today and ask questions. Why would you have a job fair when you have no jobs?
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: inteller on December 28, 2007, 09:05:14 AM
quote:
Originally posted by breitee

Check out the main web site. How embarrasing!

http://freedom-mart.net/index.htm




yeah but the blasian is rockin!
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: breitee on December 28, 2007, 09:08:19 AM
Nice teeth in the upper right corner, and don't worry, "Winky" has got your back. Who designed this thing?
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: cannon_fodder on December 28, 2007, 09:44:48 AM
(http://freedom-mart.net/banner1.jpg)

No comment necessary on that really.

I'm too cheap to pay the $5 to perform a full entity search, but considering that "[t]he owners of Trinity Investments are mostly from the urban communities of north Tulsa" and that its  "focus is on motivating and uplifting urban communities and the inhabitants" I find it strange that their registered agent and address is in Broken Arrow.

https://www.sooneraccess.state.ok.us/corp_inquiry/corp_inquiry-find.asp

      TRINITY GROCERY INVESTMENTS, LLC     Domestic Limited Liability Company      Legal

   (RA) Registered Agent:    TRINITY GROCERY INVESTMENTS, LLC
4400 S 202ND E AVE
BROKEN ARROW, OK 74014

   (RA) Effective Date:    11/21/2007

Very well could, and probably does mean nothing.  But if your focus is North Tulsa and you are trying to pass yourself off as a North Tulsa business owned by North Tulsans... wouldn't you want a North Tulsa address?  What, none of the "most" owners in North Tulsa wanted their address attached to the project?

and yes, I think it is dirty to advertise and interview for jobs that do not exist.  Are they assuming people on the North Side have nothing better to do with their time?  Seriously, what gives?
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: inteller on December 28, 2007, 10:46:12 AM
quote:
Originally posted by breitee

Nice teeth in the upper right corner, and don't worry, "Winky" has got your back. Who designed this thing?



you know, it almost seems like sambo, blaxploitation type of web site.  Like a joke or something.

Now that someone has dug up the address of the site owner (in BA)...it really makes you wonder.
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: breitee on December 28, 2007, 10:54:43 AM
Seems VERY fishy. Why would you want to use stereotypes to advertise for non existant jobs for a piece of property that you do not even own?
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: waterboy on December 28, 2007, 02:35:16 PM
I didn't like the sterotypes either. North Tulsa is not Okie for "home of black people and a few other minorities". I hope it was just naivete or a sophomoric attempt by a well meaning family member of the founders. I do like their mission to serve areas underserved by other grocers but those areas are not necessarily racially homogeneous.
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: TheArtist on December 28, 2007, 02:50:04 PM
I worked for a builder who lives in BA and builds a lot of homes in north Tulsa. Did some work in one of their new houses over there by the grocery store.  They were a very nice, young, energetic, couple. Cudos to them for starting the home building business and making, what appeared to me, a success at it, and doing so by focusing on that area. Again, dont know if its them thats part of this grocery store thing, but it would perhaps make sense, especially since where they build so many of their homes are right next to where this now empty grocery store is.


Just checked the location of the address listed above. Its residential, so likely the home mailing address of one of the parties involved. I dont believe its the couple I knew for thats not where I remembered them living. Unless they have moved and it has been years since I have seen them. I dont think there is anything wrong with living in one area and still caring about and having an interest in another.
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: RecycleMichael on December 28, 2007, 04:31:01 PM
KRMG had this on their website...

(Tulsa, OK) -- Trinity Grocery Investments, LLC holds a job fair at the Rudisill Library Friday and Saturday. It's a positive sign for the neighborhood which has been without a grocery store since last summer. The Albertson's at Pine and Peoria closed in June. There's no word on when the new store might open. However, several hundred people filled out applications at the job fair in anticipation of the Trinity group opening a Freedom Mart in the area.


Is that a good sign that so many people want to work at a north Tulsa grocery or a bad sign that so many people are willing to take an $8 an hour job?
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: TheArtist on December 28, 2007, 04:53:50 PM
This is actually kind of curious to me as to how opening a large grocery store would actually work. It not simply a matter of, hiring people, opening the doors and turning on the lights. How do you get in contact with aaaall those hundreds of vendors who supply the store with goods, negotiate prices, placements of everything, prices in the store, cash registers, signage, etc.? Is there a "middle man" person or company that can do the coordination of getting the products on the shelf? Or will they have to call up the bread and pastry company, fresh meat and fruits, the soup company, milk and cheese producers, Proctor and Gamble, PepsiCo, sacks and grocery carts, etc. and get all that ordered and shipped to the store and negotiate prices themselves?  How would all that work? Won't all of that take a bit of time?  And they dont even have the store yet...
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: TheArtist on December 28, 2007, 04:58:38 PM
quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

KRMG had this on their website...

(Tulsa, OK) -- Trinity Grocery Investments, LLC holds a job fair at the Rudisill Library Friday and Saturday. It's a positive sign for the neighborhood which has been without a grocery store since last summer. The Albertson's at Pine and Peoria closed in June. There's no word on when the new store might open. However, several hundred people filled out applications at the job fair in anticipation of the Trinity group opening a Freedom Mart in the area.


Is that a good sign that so many people want to work at a north Tulsa grocery or a bad sign that so many people are willing to take an $8 an hour job?




Hey, I am sure there are a lot of kids and young people up there, just like in any other part of town who need to start somewhere. Heck I had to walk miles to work the first several years and first few jobs I ever had.
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: Rico on December 28, 2007, 05:25:34 PM
quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

KRMG had this on their website...

(Tulsa, OK) -- Trinity Grocery Investments, LLC holds a job fair at the Rudisill Library Friday and Saturday. It's a positive sign for the neighborhood which has been without a grocery store since last summer. The Albertson's at Pine and Peoria closed in June. There's no word on when the new store might open. However, several hundred people filled out applications at the job fair in anticipation of the Trinity group opening a Freedom Mart in the area.


Is that a good sign that so many people want to work at a north Tulsa grocery or a bad sign that so many people are willing to take an $8 an hour job?




Don't really know if this qualifies as an answer to your question.... However; When Sager opens his Deli/Grocery that he has said will be part of the 1st Street Lofts, I would work for free to help the project be successful...

Well.... I may need a Pastrami and a break to check out the happenings... But mostly for free.  

Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: sgrizzle on December 28, 2007, 10:04:10 PM
Apparently KJRH forgot to check the REAL newssource (here) before running their story:
http://www.kjrh.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=59813037-69cd-4cf2-b93d-f8d2e11e16b4
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: Double A on December 28, 2007, 11:09:39 PM
Suddenly, the kool-aid glee club turns into a bunch of negative nancy naysayers. How peculiar?
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: RecycleMichael on December 28, 2007, 11:45:14 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Double A

Suddenly, the kool-aid glee club turns into a bunch of negative nancy naysayers. How peculiar?


It is possible to be hopeful, but still ask questions. Why must you call whatever we do insulting names?
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: Conan71 on December 28, 2007, 11:49:09 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Rico

quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

KRMG had this on their website...

(Tulsa, OK) -- Trinity Grocery Investments, LLC holds a job fair at the Rudisill Library Friday and Saturday. It's a positive sign for the neighborhood which has been without a grocery store since last summer. The Albertson's at Pine and Peoria closed in June. There's no word on when the new store might open. However, several hundred people filled out applications at the job fair in anticipation of the Trinity group opening a Freedom Mart in the area.


Is that a good sign that so many people want to work at a north Tulsa grocery or a bad sign that so many people are willing to take an $8 an hour job?




Don't really know if this qualifies as an answer to your question.... However; When Sager opens his Deli/Grocery that he has said will be part of the 1st Street Lofts, I would work for free to help the project be successful...

Well.... I may need a Pastrami and a break to check out the happenings... But mostly for free.  





Pretty O/T but since you brought Sager up, is he a crook?  Or are his finances just real binary?  Seems like he gets sued pretty often.
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: Conan71 on December 29, 2007, 12:08:03 AM
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

(http://freedom-mart.net/banner1.jpg)

No comment necessary on that really.




SGrizzle is just being modest about the web work he did for them...
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: Double A on December 29, 2007, 09:53:37 AM
quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

quote:
Originally posted by Double A

Suddenly, the kool-aid glee club turns into a bunch of negative nancy naysayers. How peculiar?


It is possible to be hopeful, but still ask questions. Why must you call whatever we do insulting names?



Nobody buys your Pollyanna act.
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: TheArtist on December 29, 2007, 11:13:12 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Double A

Suddenly, the kool-aid glee club turns into a bunch of negative nancy naysayers. How peculiar?



Like we haven't made fun of other websites before? lol

And the questions seem legit to me. I hope they get the store and are able to open it. My feeling is that they are probably "new" at all of this and have made some mistakes. Dont we all? And we could certainly rely on our ever vigilant friends on here to point them out to us so that we can hang our heads in shame and learn from them lol.

Your comments suggest more about how you see and treat others because your obviously putting that perspective on us.  Someone is either, completely for or completely against. They are either pollyanna or negative nancies.  I can criticize the dickens out of someone and still be hopeful for them and welcome them with open arms. And btw, we really would like to see you at some of our get togethers. I like hearing your opinions and viewpoints. Every once in a while you do manage to stumble across a good point. [;)]
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: waterboy on December 29, 2007, 11:47:29 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

quote:
Originally posted by Double A

Suddenly, the kool-aid glee club turns into a bunch of negative nancy naysayers. How peculiar?



Like we haven't made fun of other websites before? lol

And the questions seem legit to me. I hope they get the store and are able to open it. My feeling is that they are probably "new" at all of this and have made some mistakes. Dont we all? And we could certainly rely on our ever vigilant friends on here to point them out to us so that we can hang our heads in shame and learn from them lol.

Your comments suggest more about how you see and treat others because your obviously putting that perspective on us.  Someone is either, completely for or completely against. They are either pollyanna or negative nancies.  I can criticize the dickens out of someone and still be hopeful for them and welcome them with open arms. And btw, we really would like to see you at some of our get togethers. I like hearing your opinions and viewpoints. Every once in a while you do manage to stumble across a good point. [;)]



He doesn't have time. Too busy being an apologist for the North side and their representation on the council. Smart guy with poor eyesight.

Artist, don't worry about how they'll stock that grocery. If they have a phone number and decent credit those vendors will seek them out and their reps will stock and floor plan the place. There are also grocery warehousers, (Fadlers?), that serve the retail grocers. Think of a grocer the same way as a restaurant. Restaurant supply houses own most everything in the place including silverware. The restauranteur is simply a manager of the elements (labor, design, accounting, advertising, etc.)

Last number I remember was that the average grocery store had over 30,000-50,000 different items. Probably closer to 100,000. Most individual grocers are doomed though. Unless you are a member of a co-op or have multiple locations the economics and complexity are staggering. That is why I am more inclined to think the St.Louis grocer who was already established would have a better chance in north Tulsa.
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: sgrizzle on December 29, 2007, 12:10:10 PM
Any time someone comes out and says they have a pla and things are moving along but they are "looking for investors" I'm skeptical. Some previous hits include:
1. The Channels
2. Sand Springs ampitheater
3. Sand Springs year-round snowskiing
4. The American Project
5. Kanbar/Kaufman's downtown revitalization
6. Freedom-Mart
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: inteller on December 29, 2007, 03:21:41 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

Apparently KJRH forgot to check the REAL newssource (here) before running their story:
http://www.kjrh.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=59813037-69cd-4cf2-b93d-f8d2e11e16b4




what, trying to guilt them into doing an interview on your cadre meetups too?
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: Double A on December 29, 2007, 07:01:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

Any time someone comes out and says they have a pla and things are moving along but they are "looking for investors" I'm skeptical. Some previous hits include:
1. The Channels
2. Sand Springs ampitheater
3. Sand Springs year-round snowskiing
4. The American Project
5. Kanbar/Kaufman's downtown revitalization
6. Freedom-Mart



Revisionism. Lovely.
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: sgrizzle on December 29, 2007, 11:03:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Double A

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

Any time someone comes out and says they have a plan and things are moving along but they are "looking for investors" I'm skeptical. Some previous hits include:
1. The Channels
2. Sand Springs ampitheater
3. Sand Springs year-round snowskiing
4. The American Project
5. Kanbar/Kaufman's downtown revitalization
6. Freedom-Mart



Revisionism. Lovely.



Revisionism?
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: RecycleMichael on December 29, 2007, 11:53:33 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

Revisionism?


Revisionism

1) "The advocacy of a revision of some accepted theory, doctrine or a view of historical events."

2) "The belief that you can recycle Mr. Potato Head's eyes."
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: sgrizzle on December 30, 2007, 01:56:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

Revisionism?


Revisionism (Noun)

1) "The advocacy of a revision of some accepted theory, doctrine or a view of historical events."

2) "The belief that you can recycle Mr. Potato Head's eyes."




I was mainly wondering what DoubleA thought I revised.
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: RecycleMichael on December 30, 2007, 04:43:07 PM
I think he was just calling you lovely.
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: Rico on December 30, 2007, 07:36:14 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by Rico

quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

KRMG had this on their website...

(Tulsa, OK) -- Trinity Grocery Investments, LLC holds a job fair at the Rudisill Library Friday and Saturday. It's a positive sign for the neighborhood which has been without a grocery store since last summer. The Albertson's at Pine and Peoria closed in June. There's no word on when the new store might open. However, several hundred people filled out applications at the job fair in anticipation of the Trinity group opening a Freedom Mart in the area.


Is that a good sign that so many people want to work at a north Tulsa grocery or a bad sign that so many people are willing to take an $8 an hour job?




Don't really know if this qualifies as an answer to your question.... However; When Sager opens his Deli/Grocery that he has said will be part of the 1st Street Lofts, I would work for free to help the project be successful...

Well.... I may need a Pastrami and a break to check out the happenings... But mostly for free.  





Pretty O/T but since you brought Sager up, is he a crook?  Or are his finances just real binary?  Seems like he gets sued pretty often.



The most brief reason I can give for some of the actions taken against Mister Sager..... Well let's put it this way.

Sinatra before he passed was somewhat outspoken in dealing with the public and individuals...

Was Sinatra a crook.....? I don't think he was..

Did some people want to punch him in the wallet..?  But of course..

Michael has been involved in many business deals with some that that became the definition of the man.

Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: breitee on January 02, 2008, 09:06:49 AM
Does anyone know anybody who went to this "job fair"? It would be interesting to hear what they were told.
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: RecycleMichael on January 15, 2008, 07:12:51 AM
Still no sale/lease of the property...

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectID=11&articleID=20080115_1_A1_spanc25481

Albertsons property attracting interest

By ALTHEA PETERSON World Staff Writer
1/15/2008

Ruby Griffith used to do most of her grocery shopping at the Albertsons off North Peoria Avenue. Now, since the store's August closing, she said she travels all the way to Owasso's Wal-Mart. "It would be nice if they had a store in this area again," said Griffith, 67. "Then you wouldn't have to travel so far for just mayonnaise or anything like that."

However, recent signs of hope might mean that a new grocery store is coming soon. Tulsa City Councilor Jack Henderson said one group of prospective buyers of the property at 1601 N. Peoria Ave. held a job fair in late December to get a better view of the available workforce. "That's what we really need, a grocery store," Henderson said.

Richard Monaghan of EB Richard Ellis, the broker of the Albertsons property, confirmed the store had not been sold yet. However, he said there is interest from various groups. "There's a number of prospects evaluating the property," he said. Keen Realty will be auctioning off land adjacent to Albertsons next month, Monaghan said. The land is also owned by Albertsons, but the deal will be a separate transaction from the store property.

The group that hosted the December job fair was Trinity Grocery Investments LLC, a local investment group. Representatives of Trinity could not be reached for comment. The Albertsons property at Pine and Peoria has been a site for recent protests about the proposed Tulsa River Tax and the reappointment of Police Chief Ron Palmer. Unfortunately, it has not been the site of upstart businesses, said resident Charles Davis, 31. "A grocery store out here would be nice," he said. "I mean, look at north Tulsa. We have nothing . . . I hate it. I have to go all the way out south to go to the store. I would love a new store here."

Easier said than done, Henderson said. "That's my number one concern right now," Henderson said of bringing another grocer in to replace Albertsons. Councilor Roscoe Turner of District 3 declined to comment on the Albertsons. "I don't have anything to say about it right now," he said.
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: RecycleMichael on March 29, 2008, 08:23:13 PM
I guess the group never got their act together and signed a lease.

DoubleA called us all names when we questioned this, but we were right and he was once again wrong. He was probably just defending Roscoe.

Why is this not a campaign issue?

Why is no one questioning the company for having a job fair when they don't have jobs to fill?

What happened to the personal information of the hundreds of applicants?
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: breitee on March 31, 2008, 08:50:35 AM
Consider the source.
Title: Freedom Mart opening @ Pine and Peoria
Post by: Double A on March 31, 2008, 10:35:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I guess the group never got their act together and signed a lease.

DoubleA called us all names when we questioned this, but we were right and he was once again wrong. He was probably just defending Roscoe.

Why is this not a campaign issue?

Why is no one questioning the company for having a job fair when they don't have jobs to fill?

What happened to the personal information of the hundreds of applicants?



I never said this was a done deal. I knew this was a long shot. The point I was making is that the people who usually cheer lead for every bogus plan the GOB network puts forward suddenly became naysayers and cynics. I guess this wasn't GOB endorsed. BTW, if da Mare and the EDC hadn't been preoccupied with moving into her new crystal castle to artificially inflate occupancy rates downtown by taking empty office space off the market to help real estate owners who didn't need it on the taxpayer's dime, maybe they could have handled this proactively(you know that B.S. buzzword they love to bandy about) instead of getting caught unaware(not even remotely proactive) so this important TIF district wouldn't have been left without an anchor. BTW, how's da Mare's Working In Neighborhoods department going? I'm still waiting to hear when or if those quadrant representative positions that have been budgeted are staffed.