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Title: Racial taunting in Owasso school
Post by: RecycleMichael on November 10, 2007, 04:48:30 PM
This is a sad story...

http://www.kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=139529

Students Walk Out Of Class
A small crowd of Owasso 9th and 10th graders protested outside of the Mid-High Friday afternoon. They say since House Bill 1804 became law other students have started harassing them, even calling them derogatory names.

"We come here just like everybody else. But, they make it seem like we're all from Mexico. We're all, we're nothing to them, like we don't do anything here. Like we're just coming here to invade. They want us to go back like we belong there. I mean, I was born in America," said Maria Aguilera, a 10th grader in Owasso.

"You know, I'm sure some of them have some raw feelings and nerve endings, there's confusion and frustration. They're upset about some things. We want to deal with whatever we can to solve what problems we can," added Don Huggins, principal of Owasso Mid High.

School administrators plan to sit down with the students next week to address their problems.
Title: Racial taunting in Owasso school
Post by: Ed W on November 10, 2007, 05:33:06 PM
Doubly sad because it was so predictable.  Do we really need the events of Jena, LA propagating through the rest of our school systems?

I heard the police calls on my radio, but since I came in after the incident started, I didn't really understand what was going on.  But my son was about to get out of school.  I was concerned for his safety since there were at least 4 police units in the area.  He called to tell us that it was just a protest.  I'll hear more about it on Monday, I'm sure.
Title: Racial taunting in Owasso school
Post by: sgrizzle on November 10, 2007, 07:58:22 PM
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Title: Racial taunting in Owasso school
Post by: swake on November 11, 2007, 08:09:06 AM
I would never expect anything like this to happen in the "City of Character"!
Title: Racial taunting in Owasso school
Post by: inteller on November 11, 2007, 01:56:05 PM
quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

This is a sad story...

http://www.kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=139529

Students Walk Out Of Class
A small crowd of Owasso 9th and 10th graders protested outside of the Mid-High Friday afternoon. They say since House Bill 1804 became law other students have started harassing them, even calling them derogatory names.

"We come here just like everybody else. But, they make it seem like we're all from Mexico. We're all, we're nothing to them, like we don't do anything here. Like we're just coming here to invade. They want us to go back like we belong there. I mean, I was born in America," said Maria Aguilera, a 10th grader in Owasso.

"You know, I'm sure some of them have some raw feelings and nerve endings, there's confusion and frustration. They're upset about some things. We want to deal with whatever we can to solve what problems we can," added Don Huggins, principal of Owasso Mid High.

School administrators plan to sit down with the students next week to address their problems.




oh this is utter BS.  I'm sure this harrassment was going on before HB1804.  I thought all the bleeding hearts were empty by now.....I guess not.
Title: Racial taunting in Owasso school
Post by: RecycleMichael on November 11, 2007, 02:16:18 PM
I am sure that the mighty inteller knows the truth, even if all the information in the story says otherwise.

Inteller...are you an Owasso ninth grader?
Title: Racial taunting in Owasso school
Post by: Chicken Little on November 11, 2007, 02:33:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

this is utter BS. I'm sure this harrassment was going on before HB1804.
What makes it BS?  Because you say so?  You don't know anything about these kids or the problems they face.  So, stop talking out your *ss. [xx(]
Title: Racial taunting in Owasso school
Post by: guido911 on November 11, 2007, 03:04:14 PM
CL Wrote:  "So, stop talking out your *ss."

And this means something because CL is an expert in this area.

As for the children, someone should put them in contact Orta or the frivolous lawsuit folks.
Title: Racial taunting in Owasso school
Post by: inteller on November 11, 2007, 06:50:29 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Chicken Little

quote:
Originally posted by inteller

this is utter BS. I'm sure this harrassment was going on before HB1804.
What makes it BS?  Because you say so?  You don't know anything about these kids or the problems they face.  So, stop talking out your *ss. [xx(]



the people that these kids should be mad at are their illegal parents for coming here and creating this problem.
Title: Racial taunting in Owasso school
Post by: restored2x on November 12, 2007, 08:15:51 AM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

quote:
Originally posted by Chicken Little

quote:
Originally posted by inteller

this is utter BS. I'm sure this harrassment was going on before HB1804.
What makes it BS?  Because you say so?  You don't know anything about these kids or the problems they face.  So, stop talking out your *ss. [xx(]



the people that these kids should be mad at are their illegal parents for coming here and creating this problem.



Where in the article does it say that their parents were illegals?

Bad assumption. Maybe they are from Puerto Rico (Born American citizens) - or their parents are LEGAL immigrants. In any case, the kids are citizens and should be treated with the same respect as any American, even if their parents were illegal.

Not all Hispanics are from Mexico. Not all Hispanics are illegal.
Title: Racial taunting in Owasso school
Post by: Chicken Little on November 12, 2007, 11:12:43 AM
quote:
"I was born in America," said Maria Aguilera, a 10th grader in Owasso.
Why should this young person be treated any differently than any other American?  Give me a good reason.
Title: Racial taunting in Owasso school
Post by: mr.jaynes on November 12, 2007, 11:56:16 AM
quote:
Originally posted by restored2x

quote:
Originally posted by inteller

quote:
Originally posted by Chicken Little

quote:
Originally posted by inteller

this is utter BS. I'm sure this harrassment was going on before HB1804.
What makes it BS?  Because you say so?  You don't know anything about these kids or the problems they face.  So, stop talking out your *ss. [xx(]



the people that these kids should be mad at are their illegal parents for coming here and creating this problem.



Not all Hispanics are from Mexico. Not all Hispanics are illegal.



And culturally, there's a big difference between Mexicans and Puerto Ricans, who are different from Dominicans, who are different from Cubans, etc.
Title: Racial taunting in Owasso school
Post by: Kashmir on November 12, 2007, 12:19:27 PM
HA!  When I was in Intermediate HS at Union, (I know, whoo-hoo, Union, south-side, I get it)  The native Spanish speaking students would take Spanish I, II, etc and ace the class.  "Lucky bastards!" we fumed.  Why weren't we lucky enough to be born someplace else!!  WHY WEREN'T WE MEXICAN TOO???  Then we too could take Spanish and blow it off. [:P] SO you got real smart about making some new friends in your Spanish class and know what?  You made a great new friend who just happened to be from Mexico.  Maybe we had a glamorized view if Mexico as the place of sombreros and enchiladas and bars but I remember guys thinking some of those girls were HAWT. But in my crowd, I don't remember anyone being mean.

Title: Racial taunting in Owasso school
Post by: Kashmir on November 12, 2007, 12:20:50 PM
Forgot to add that was 15-16 years ago...damn.
Title: Racial taunting in Owasso school
Post by: Chicken Little on November 12, 2007, 12:26:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mr.jaynes

quote:

restored2x
Not all Hispanics are from Mexico. Not all Hispanics are illegal.



And culturally, there's a big difference between Mexicans and Puerto Ricans, who are different from Dominicans, who are different from Cubans, etc.

But, apparently, to inteller those are "BS" distinctions.  So, apparently, is the the distinction between American and foreign national.  And Guido thinks that it's all "frivolous".  Keep talking guys.  You are digging your self a deep hole that makes you look a lot less like people who care about the law, and a lot more like racists.  I'd love for you all to show us that you aren't.  So, should an American with the last name of Aguilera be treated any differently than a Smith or a Jones?  Hint:  the only answer is "no".
Title: Racial taunting in Owasso school
Post by: cannon_fodder on November 12, 2007, 12:37:38 PM
One amusing aspect is how this is some amazing NEW problem.  America has hated every successive immigrant group starting right after the Puritans (who hated the Quakers).  The English hated the Germans when they came, who hated the Irish, who hated the Italians, who hated the Eastern Europeans who then migrated West to hate the Asians while everyone hated the emancipated Africans who can now join in hating the Hispanics.  

The only real question is who the Hispanics will hate in 50 years. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Title: Racial taunting in Owasso school
Post by: Chicken Little on November 12, 2007, 01:49:14 PM
C'mon, iteller.  Where are those welcoming, "open arms"?  Guido?  You gonna turn your back on a poor little American girl?  Why?
Title: Racial taunting in Owasso school
Post by: guido911 on November 12, 2007, 07:22:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Chicken Little

C'mon, iteller.  Where are those welcoming, "open arms"?  Guido?  You gonna turn your back on a poor little American girl?  Why?



Who are you to accuse me of turning my back on anyone? I served this country, which is damn sure more than many on this forum. As for you, you have turned your back on the will of the Oklahoma people and the rule of law in this country.
Title: Racial taunting in Owasso school
Post by: Ed W on November 12, 2007, 07:35:40 PM
Where is it lawful to harass anyone on the basis of ethnicity?  Can any of us look at someone and know if they're illegals?  Or is that assumption based on their brown skin?

I must have missed that day in civics class.
Title: Racial taunting in Owasso school
Post by: Chicken Little on November 13, 2007, 11:55:17 AM
quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:
Originally posted by Chicken Little

C'mon, iteller.  Where are those welcoming, "open arms"?  Guido?  You gonna turn your back on a poor little American girl?  Why?



Who are you to accuse me of turning my back on anyone? I served this country, which is damn sure more than many on this forum. As for you, you have turned your back on the will of the Oklahoma people and the rule of law in this country.

I have the utmost respect for people who serve this country.  In my book, however, it does not give you carte blanche to turn your back on an American.  You served as a soldier (marine, airman, sailor), now serve as a citizen.

Why is it "frivolous" when a bunch of jerky kids in Owasso discriminate against an American girl because she is Hispanic?  Last I checked, that was illegal, friend.  That kind of criminality is not excused in HB 1804.  Do you think that it should be?

Singling out an American girl like this is flat-out criminal, and if you think that I'm going to let you off the hook for minimalizing this criminal behavior and marginalizing this young American, you are wrong.  Do you give two sh*ts about the law, or don't you?