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Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: sgrizzle on October 30, 2007, 10:27:38 PM
I generally get too frustrated when I watch TV news but I found myself watching the channel 8 news tonight. The lead-off story about Fox Collision had to wait until they could work on the prompter because they couldn't even seem to remember what the story was about without it. They covered the standoff/shootout story by only doing an officer impression piece and not mentioning anything about the actual standoff. The "sidewalk to nowhere" story was all over the place and didn't explain the city's side at all. Even with the prompter working Coca-Cola opened a new center in the "Eastland Multiplex" instead of Eastgate Metroplex and their b-roll mainly showed toys-r-us.

I also thought it was a joke that the dentist talking about eating Halloween candy was named "Kaneta Lott."

Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: Conan71 on October 30, 2007, 11:04:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle


I also thought it was a joke that the dentist talking about eating Halloween candy was named "Kaneta Lott."




There's an Austin Powers joke in there somewhere, I can just feel it...
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: Renaissance on October 31, 2007, 12:06:50 AM
I'm Ron Burgundy?
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: TheTed on October 31, 2007, 12:19:17 AM
Channel 2 is constantly pimping shopzilla.com, the website owned by their parent company.

The other day I watched something on I believe it was channel 8. The lead-in: Officer seriously injured. Then the actual story says they don't have any information on the severity of the officer's injuries.

The on screen graphics on all of the local tv stations are rife with errors. Big Al was spelling now Kentucky coach Billy Gillispie's name wrong on screen for weeks.

They can't report properly or even spell, but they sure are quick to promote themselves and their "breaking news."

I DVR the news. It doesn't take long to watch once I fast forward through all the stories that were in that day's paper and all the excess weather coverage to tell me it's gonna be 65 degrees and sunny tomorrow.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: sgrizzle on October 31, 2007, 05:24:19 AM
Found out the "Kaneta Lott" bit was canned, as were about half the stories. Kinda sad they can't make their own news.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: spoonbill on October 31, 2007, 10:30:55 AM
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I've abandon local news almost totally.  Half of the commercials durring the news are FOR the news.  

"Now with Super Dopple Scanner Ultra Tracker Rad-Two Radar so strong it with cook pop-tarts!"

Turns me off.  

All I want to know is, wet or no wet, cold or no cold.

Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: citizen72 on October 31, 2007, 11:01:09 AM
Totally agree about the news. Would have to throw the weather in there as well. None of the guys can forecast themselves out of a paper bag.

Then, a few weeks ago during our last storm everyone one of the stations were going full tilt. One has to ask themselves if they are concerned about informing in a professional way or just worried about their market share. They will track a cloud completely across the state all the time completely captivated that the cloud is in our state. Way too much unnecessary coverage in my opinion.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: breitee on October 31, 2007, 11:40:05 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by spoonbill

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I've abandon local news almost totally.  Half of the commercials durring the news are FOR the news.  

"Now with Super Dopple Scanner Ultra Tracker Rad-Two Radar so strong it with cook pop-tarts!"

Turns me off.  

All I want to know is, wet or no wet, cold or no cold.


Right on the money. ALL of the local stations are guilty of self promotion. "Anchors that cover the news, know the news". Really? would have never guessed that!
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: Kashmir on October 31, 2007, 12:15:20 PM
Like INVESTIGATIVE, HARD HITTING NEWS.  THE NEWS THAT MATTERS!!!

Yeah right.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: spoonbill on October 31, 2007, 12:49:50 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Kashmir

Like INVESTIGATIVE, HARD HITTING NEWS.  THE NEWS THAT MATTERS!!!

Yeah right.



Lets be honest.  Should be "ANCHORS THAT READ THE NEWS, BUT DON'T NECESSARILY UNDERSTAND THE NEWS."

Nodding does not necessitate understanding.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: Hometown on October 31, 2007, 12:56:49 PM
Going downhill?  Hows about been down for a long time.

But check out OETA Nightly Oklahoma Report.  Really excellent, balanced and lots of information.  Puts the other local broadcasts to shame.  It comes on at 6:30 p.m. on Cox cable channel 11.

Now if only Oklahoma had a decent newspaper, or at least if the Dallas Morning News had a Tulsa Bureau with a Tulsa edition and delivered locally.

We are about to abandon the CBS Evening News after being loyal viewers for decades.  Katie is doing too many touchy feely stories.  Not enough hard news.  And the changes at CBS destroy any sense of loyalty.  They don't care about their past.  We don't care about their past.



Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: citizen72 on October 31, 2007, 01:44:25 PM
Yes, we seriously need another newspaper alternative in Tulsa. I'm afraid the Tulsa World is a strong part of the "Good ole boy network" in Tulsa.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: spoonbill on October 31, 2007, 02:02:37 PM
quote:
Originally posted by citizen72

Yes, we seriously need another newspaper alternative in Tulsa. I'm afraid the Tulsa World is a strong part of the "Good ole boy network" in Tulsa.



So lets start one.  We could call it um. . .TULSA NOW!
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: Kashmir on October 31, 2007, 02:07:22 PM
I swear that our local news is obsessed with lost puppies, sick kittens, and other crazy animal stories.  A dog that walked to Michigan in search of an owner.  An amazing cat that can tell time, etc.  OK, I am exaggerating.  I am allergic to fur, so it may be my own cold, stony heart, but enough with the animal tales.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: Ed W on October 31, 2007, 03:39:59 PM
Fox 23 is the worst of the lot.  During their 'breaking news' coverage of the stand off the other night, their reporter said, "Police are about to enter the apartment, but they're not certain if the man is completely dead."  

Completely dead?  Could he have been partially dead?

It's like watching the news as reported by teenagers.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: spoonbill on October 31, 2007, 04:27:55 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ed W

Fox 23 is the worst of the lot.  During their 'breaking news' coverage of the stand off the other night, their reporter said, "Police are about to enter the apartment, but they're not certain if the man is completely dead."  

Completely dead?  Could he have been partially dead?

It's like watching the news as reported by teenagers.



I can't believe we live in a world where Death is still the #1 killer!
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: perspicuity85 on October 31, 2007, 07:30:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Kashmir

I swear that our local news is obsessed with lost puppies, sick kittens, and other crazy animal stories.  A dog that walked to Michigan in search of an owner.  An amazing cat that can tell time, etc.  OK, I am exaggerating.  I am allergic to fur, so it may be my own cold, stony heart, but enough with the animal tales.




That's soooo true.  Every time I watch local news, they're busy on assignment saving someone's lost cat or something.  Most of the time, the news anchors are making corny jokes amongst themselves instead of reporting.  It's ridiculously unprofessional.  And what's up with channel 8's sports guy, he doesn't look a day over 15!

Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: inteller on October 31, 2007, 09:24:29 PM
going downhill?  Hell man it went downhill years ago....it is underneath the swamp at this point.

The only point in watching the local news these days is to look at the poor but HAWT chics that have somehow been suckered into working the news beat in tulsa.

I haven't seen Krista FLasch on TV lately, I think she figured out it was time to get the FAWK outta here.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: spoonbill on November 01, 2007, 08:20:26 AM
It's hard to create "shock & awe" (the goal of news organizations) in good times. . .and for the most part we are enjoying some very good times in Tulsa.

The issues that are huge like Tulsa's soaring murder rate or crumbeling streets are never fully reported because they are taboo.  They put the mayor, her policies, and her appointees in a bad light.  All they can do is look at the 800 pound gorilla and acknowledge it every now and then so as to not look completely biased.

Our local news organizations and thier owners worked so hard to make sure this mayor was voted into office, they now find themsleves limited as to what they can say.  After all, we saw reporters quit their jobs to become campaign consultants.  Don't think for a minute they weren't compensated heavily by their "former" organization to make this move.

So. . .we are doomed to hear more stories about lost kitty-cats.

(http://www.vaersa.es/703_image_01.jpg)
"Nothing to see here!  Please move along!"
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: alanoftulsa on November 01, 2007, 10:10:42 AM
Fox 23 is the worst of the lot. During their 'breaking news' coverage of the stand off the other night, their reporter said, "Police are about to enter the apartment, but they're not certain if the man is completely dead."

Completely dead? Could he have been partially dead?


Yes he could have been partially dead.  This close to Halloween there are Zombies running around everywhere....
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: swake on November 01, 2007, 10:31:16 AM
quote:
Originally posted by spoonbill


The issues that are huge like Tulsa's soaring murder rate or crumbeling streets are never fully reported because they are taboo.  They put the mayor, her policies, and her appointees in a bad light.  All they can do is look at the 800 pound gorilla and acknowledge it every now and then so as to not look completely biased.

Our local news organizations and thier owners worked so hard to make sure this mayor was voted into office, they now find themsleves limited as to what they can say.  After all, we saw reporters quit their jobs to become campaign consultants.  Don't think for a minute they weren't compensated heavily by their "former" organization to make this move.



This is nonsense.

Our local TV stations chase murder and all crime around like a puppy chases Milk Bones.

You might want to check it out, our murder rate and crime rate overall that soared under the previous (Republican) mayor has been slowing sliding downward for a few years. It's still too high but it IS declining. And that is what you would never know watching the local news. Crime equals ratings.  They aren't protecting the mayor. Anyway, even if they were, which mayor do you think they are protecting, the current one or the last one?

As for streets, do you really think the streets issue started 18 months ago? It was the last mayor that pushed through the 3rd penny so hard right before the last city election so the current mayor has less ability to focus funds on what she sees as city needs as opposed to what he saw.

But, keep on with the "Blame Taylor" drum, it's soothing at night.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: spoonbill on November 01, 2007, 10:38:54 AM
quote:
Originally posted by swake

quote:
Originally posted by spoonbill


The issues that are huge like Tulsa's soaring murder rate or crumbeling streets are never fully reported because they are taboo.  They put the mayor, her policies, and her appointees in a bad light.  All they can do is look at the 800 pound gorilla and acknowledge it every now and then so as to not look completely biased.

Our local news organizations and thier owners worked so hard to make sure this mayor was voted into office, they now find themsleves limited as to what they can say.  After all, we saw reporters quit their jobs to become campaign consultants.  Don't think for a minute they weren't compensated heavily by their "former" organization to make this move.



This is nonsense.

Our local TV stations chase murder and all crime around like a puppy chases Milk Bones.

You might want to check it out, our murder rate and crime rate overall that soared under the previous (Republican) mayor has been slowing sliding downward for a few years. It's still too high but it IS declining. And that is what you would never know watching the local news. Crime equals ratings.  They aren't protecting the mayor. Anyway, even if they were, which mayor do you think they are protecting, the current one or the last one?

As for streets, do you really think the streets issue started 18 months ago? It was the last mayor that pushed through the 3rd penny so hard right before the last city election so the current mayor has less ability to focus funds on what she sees as city needs as opposed to what he saw.

But, keep on with the "Blame Taylor" drum, it's soothing at night.




One thing we can both agree on is that our last mayor was worthless too.  It's not a Republican/Democrat thing.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: swake on November 01, 2007, 10:40:23 AM
Here's a sampling of each stations local headlines (all have the new immigration law on top) RIGHT NOW:

KOTV:
Woman Brutally Beaten
Man Struck And Killed Overnight

KTUL:
Officers Arrest Man In Bank Robbery

KJRH
Changes for sex offender registery  
One shot, one killed at Tulsa Halloween party
Pedestrian struck, killed near Tulsa's Hunter Park  

KOKI
Fatal auto pedestrian accident this morning
Shooting leaves one dead
Police shoot standoff suspect
New sex offender laws
New police office opens downtown
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: spoonbill on November 01, 2007, 10:49:40 AM
quote:
Originally posted by swake

Here's a sampling of each stations local headlines (all have the new immigration law on top) RIGHT NOW:

KOTV:
Woman Brutally Beaten
Man Struck And Killed Overnight

KTUL:
Officers Arrest Man In Bank Robbery

KJRH
Changes for sex offender registery  
One shot, one killed at Tulsa Halloween party
Pedestrian struck, killed near Tulsa's Hunter Park  

KOKI
Fatal auto pedestrian accident this morning
Shooting leaves one dead
Police shoot standoff suspect
New sex offender laws
New police office opens downtown





Must be a slow news day.

I admit, I was a bit harsh, but I don't like to see any politician pampered by the media.  And, she dosen't get nearly enough tough questions or challenges.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: Rico on November 01, 2007, 10:56:11 AM
Originally posted by swake.
quote:


You might want to check it out, our murder rate and crime rate overall that soared under the previous (Republican) mayor has been slowing sliding downward for a few years. It's still too high but it IS declining. And that is what you would never know watching the local news.



I wish the above were true swake... Have a look at the numbers... (//%22http://www.tulsapolice.org/records/crime_tables.html%22)

The murder rate, as you can see, will likely set a new record. Some will be on a level equal to previous years.. But the crime rate is in no way being taken as seriously as it should be...

Public Safety is still not priority number one.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: patric on November 01, 2007, 11:10:58 AM
quote:
Originally posted by spoonbill

The issues that are huge like Tulsa's soaring murder rate or crumbeling streets are never fully reported because they are taboo.  They put the mayor, her policies, and her appointees in a bad light.

Our local news organizations and thier owners worked so hard to make sure this mayor was voted into office, they now find themsleves limited as to what they can say.  After all, we saw reporters quit their jobs to become campaign consultants.  Don't think for a minute they weren't compensated heavily by their "former" organization to make this move.



This is extremely uninformed.  Local media are at odds all the time with the powers to be.  For instance, the only reason you saw video from the  standoff with the bipolar man shot by the sniper is because reporters resisted when they were being forced to turn over their video to police.
Even after they fought confiscation and threats of arrest, I dont think anyone aired the actual shooting itself (which shows a lot of restraint).

It's absurd to think broadcasters toe the line with the Taylor administration, but I will agree too many daily assignments are influenced by what they see in the corporate PR mill that is the Tulsa Whirled.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: swake on November 01, 2007, 11:48:26 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Rico

Originally posted by swake.
quote:


You might want to check it out, our murder rate and crime rate overall that soared under the previous (Republican) mayor has been slowing sliding downward for a few years. It's still too high but it IS declining. And that is what you would never know watching the local news.



I wish the above were true swake... Have a look at the numbers... (//%22http://www.tulsapolice.org/records/crime_tables.html%22)

The murder rate, as you can see, will likely set a new record. Some will be on a level equal to previous years.. But the crime rate is in no way being taken as seriously as it should be...

Public Safety is still not priority number one.



Using that data, total crimes reported year to date through September of each year:

2003   22,857
2004   23,659
2005   22,710
2006   22,174
2007   22,055


Makes my point exactly. We peaked under LaFortune in 2004 and have been slowly going down ever since. The murder rate is not the total picture of crime in Tulsa today, it's just what makes headlines.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: RecycleMichael on November 01, 2007, 11:55:46 AM
22,000 crimes?

We got to catch that guy.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: PonderInc on November 02, 2007, 11:59:07 AM
B/c I don't watch TV news, I'm always shocked by the stupidity when I see it.  Local news is total crap.  If nothing bad happened that day, they find something hideous SOMEWHERE in the country to talk about (I thought it was supposed to be LOCAL news!  Not national fearmongering...).  They also go out of their way to create some "fear" that you should have.  ("Is your snack food killing you?!")

All it does is cause fear among people and perpetuate the myth that the world is dangerous and all people are bad..."horrible things are happening everywhere and no one is safe!"  "Your neighbor might be a child molester!"  "Radon gas kills Kentucky family!" (or whatever).

What goes unreported every day is that several hundred thousand people went about their business, safe and unmolested.  Neighbors helped each other.  People smiled at one another, and laughed together.  Strangers were kind.  Thousands volunteered their time all over town.  Folks in grocery lines let others jump ahead.  Kids fell off their bikes and total strangers stopped to offer comfort and first aid.

Whenever there's a disaster, we're always amazed at how many people respond, and how many people want to help.  We shouldn't be amazed.  People do inspiring, kind, and generous things every single day...it just doesn't make the news.

Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: swake on November 02, 2007, 12:26:54 PM
There are about 30,000 crimes a year in Tulsa, with the 900,000+ people in the metro that come into Tulsa on a regular basis plus visitors you can expect to be a victim of a crime in Tulsa about once every 30 years or so. 80% of those crimes are property crimes so odds are that if you lived to be 80 years old and spent your whole life living in Tulsa you might over the course of your entire life be a crime victim 2-3 times and most likely never experienced any kind of violent crime, in your entire life.

Stay out of high crime areas, lock your doors and don't do drugs and your odds get much, much better than even these numbers.

So much for "rampant" crime.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: mr.jaynes on November 04, 2007, 11:11:14 AM
There are some who allege that news is tilted to the left, others who feel that news tilts rightward. Some allege that news tilts to whatever the prevailing ideology is in charge of the country at any given time. Others allege that there is no bias at all. All sides make good, fact-based arguments for their position.

I somewhat lean towards a no-bias position, but am moving beyond that to another position. To wit, it's not even a matter of bias. For me, local and even national news in any market or outlet seems driven by sensationalism, and said sensationalism always tends toward what news (or what passes for it these days) is coming out of Hollyweird.

In 2007, we've been inundated with the Anna Nicole Smith-Lindsay Lohan-Britney Spears-Paris Hilton stories that seem to be treated with importance equal to the Iraq War and the Gulf States' recovery after Hurricane Katrina. And I think that news in general has become more tabloidized over the years.

By the way, did anyone catch Brian Williams on Saturday Night Live last night?



Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: Ibanez on November 04, 2007, 01:42:59 PM
Local news is terrible...but as long as Natalie Sentz is still on KJRH I will continue to watch.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: mr.jaynes on November 04, 2007, 01:44:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by wavoka

Local news is terrible...but as long as Natalie Sentz is still on KJRH I will continue to watch.



Who is Natalie Sentz?
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: Ibanez on November 04, 2007, 01:57:31 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mr.jaynes

quote:
Originally posted by wavoka

Local news is terrible...but as long as Natalie Sentz is still on KJRH I will continue to watch.



Who is Natalie Sentz?



The picture doesn't do her justice.

I've met her a couple of times out in public and she is beautiful.

The love of my life. Just don't tell my wife. (//%22http://www.kjrh.com/content/aboutus/bios/story.aspx?content_id=28921cc7-a43f-430f-ba49-0afc751a6cc9%22)
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: mr.jaynes on November 04, 2007, 02:22:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by wavoka

quote:
Originally posted by mr.jaynes

quote:
Originally posted by wavoka

Local news is terrible...but as long as Natalie Sentz is still on KJRH I will continue to watch.



Who is Natalie Sentz?



The picture doesn't do her justice.

I've met her a couple of times out in public and she is beautiful.

The love of my life. Just don't tell my wife. (//%22http://www.kjrh.com/content/aboutus/bios/story.aspx?content_id=28921cc7-a43f-430f-ba49-0afc751a6cc9%22)



Ever notice whenever you see your local TV people out in public and they just seem different somehow?
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: Kashmir on November 04, 2007, 02:30:01 PM
In the summer we were food shopping at Wally mart.  We were on the bread aisle and Mr. Kashmir says "OMIGOD, LOOK!"  It was Lori Fullbright from channel 6 looking at the wonder bread.  I said "WHAT??" and he said "Look, they have the cheddar jalapeno totillas!!!"  (he had been searching madly for them for a while...and didn't notice Lori.)  Unfortunately, Lori saw the whole freak out over tortillas and probably thinks we are real freaks.
LOL!
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: mr.jaynes on November 04, 2007, 02:32:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Kashmir

In the summer we were food shopping at Wally mart.  We were on the bread aisle and Mr. Kashmir says "OMIGOD, LOOK!"  It was Lori Fullbright from channel 6 looking at the wonder bread.  I said "WHAT??" and he said "Look, they have the cheddar jalapeno totillas!!!"  (he had been searching madly for them for a while...and didn't notice Lori.)  Unfortunately, Lori saw the whole freak out over tortillas and probably thinks we are real freaks.
LOL!




And Lori Fulbright is...?
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: Conan71 on November 04, 2007, 02:59:39 PM
quote:
Originally posted by PonderInc

B/c I don't watch TV news, I'm always shocked by the stupidity when I see it.  Local news is total crap.  If nothing bad happened that day, they find something hideous SOMEWHERE in the country to talk about (I thought it was supposed to be LOCAL news!  Not national fearmongering...).  They also go out of their way to create some "fear" that you should have.  ("Is your snack food killing you?!")

All it does is cause fear among people and perpetuate the myth that the world is dangerous and all people are bad..."horrible things are happening everywhere and no one is safe!"  "Your neighbor might be a child molester!"  "Radon gas kills Kentucky family!" (or whatever).

What goes unreported every day is that several hundred thousand people went about their business, safe and unmolested.  Neighbors helped each other.  People smiled at one another, and laughed together.  Strangers were kind.  Thousands volunteered their time all over town.  Folks in grocery lines let others jump ahead.  Kids fell off their bikes and total strangers stopped to offer comfort and first aid.

Whenever there's a disaster, we're always amazed at how many people respond, and how many people want to help.  We shouldn't be amazed.  People do inspiring, kind, and generous things every single day...it just doesn't make the news.





I'm guessing you and I are fairly close enough in age where you might remember when news was exactly that- news.  It's in the last 25 years it's become a form of entertainment with multiple news outlets on cable and satellite, and infinite more places to find it on the web.

I guess demographic studies must show that people won't tune in for Pollyanna stories anymore, only blood, fear, and debauchery.

It's the ultimate in reality television (which I can't stand either).
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: mr.jaynes on November 04, 2007, 03:01:08 PM
"Dog bites man" stories don't seem to resonate as much as "Man bites dog" stories do.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: buck on November 06, 2007, 01:11:31 PM
I agree Natalie Sentz is adorable. You just have to get up at the butt crack of dawn to see her. Channel 2 by far has the best looking female reporters.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: Alex on November 08, 2007, 11:27:20 AM
What I don't get is why the station seems to refuse to put Natalie in the anchor chair or even let her sub in when one of the regular anchors is out.  And yet they list her as the fourth of the team in their promotions.  Clearly she is popular and she is good at what she does.  When they finally let her do a piece with personality like at the home and garden show or something not involving a car wreck or fire, she is even more adorable when she gets to smile and show her real self.  Now that Erin is off on maternity leave, I thought this was a perfect chance to let Natalie have a studio spot again.  I would tune in much more frequently if Natalie sat in the studio each morning and we saw more than 2 minutes of her.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: tim huntzinger on November 08, 2007, 12:29:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mr.jaynes



By the way, did anyone catch Brian Williams on Saturday Night Live last night?




I did and he was absolutely fantastic, he was funny as all get out.  Almost as funny as Algore when he was on.

Here are Alexa.com rankings for Tulsa TV news sites: KOTV/104604; KTUL/189804; KJRH/336657; FOX23/392617
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: inteller on November 08, 2007, 09:42:39 PM
quote:
Originally posted by buck

I agree Natalie Sentz is adorable. You just have to get up at the butt crack of dawn to see her. Channel 2 by far has the best looking female reporters.




you said natalie sentz and butt crack...uhhuhuhuhuhuh...

What ever happened to Ohmydilly Nelson?
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: mr.jaynes on November 08, 2007, 11:10:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by tim huntzinger

quote:
Originally posted by mr.jaynes



By the way, did anyone catch Brian Williams on Saturday Night Live last night?




I did and he was absolutely fantastic, he was funny as all get out.  Almost as funny as Algore when he was on.

Here are Alexa.com rankings for Tulsa TV news sites: KOTV/104604; KTUL/189804; KJRH/336657; FOX23/392617



Al Gore did a pretty good job when he'd hosted, just as Brian Williams did. When the host isn't necessarily an actor or isn't blatantly pushing a movie, it's always fun to watch. Not that I don't enjoy SNL, I do because as it's a tradition for me. It's just that I like to see all kinds of different hosts.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: patric on November 09, 2007, 10:08:17 AM
quote:
Originally posted by mr.jaynes

"Dog bites man" stories don't seem to resonate as much as "Man bites dog" stories do.


It's propably more a factor of what piques viewer interest than some liberal-conservative agenda.
Take for example the report of a child molested in a Tulsa public school.  Is the story more about the crime, or the TPS spokeswoman who stormed out of the interview when confronted with questions implying that TPS was keeping it quiet?
http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/1107/471112.html

Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: mr.jaynes on November 09, 2007, 10:36:08 AM
quote:
Originally posted by patric

quote:
Originally posted by mr.jaynes

"Dog bites man" stories don't seem to resonate as much as "Man bites dog" stories do.


It's propably more a factor of what piques viewer interest than some liberal-conservative agenda.



Again, a matter of sensationalism. I mean, even Fox News does some reporting from Hollyweird and passes it off as "Hard Hitting News."

Incidentally, it's curious to learn that Fox's best-known anchor, Shepard Smith, put in a little time at Fox's A Current Affair, the standard by which tabloid TV is judged.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: ARGUS on November 12, 2007, 09:01:09 AM
Natalie is such a talent they are all scared of her! She is easily one of the most beuatiful, humble,  and girl next door type - regular people (with CIA training at the "Farm") of all women in the area. (I know; I look at them all)
Natalie Sentz ROCKS! Golf clap for Natalie!!!!
Did I say she was/is the under used weapon of KJRH?
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: ARGUS on November 12, 2007, 09:02:33 AM
I wish she (Natalie) would help me spell better.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: Admin on November 12, 2007, 10:06:57 AM
While TulsaNow forumgoers are fan of Ms. Sentz, the feeling is not mutual as she has stated this before:

quote:

I can at least say I was absolutely right when telling others why I didn't believe Tulsa Now was anything but a bunch of goof-off's with no working knowledge of the field and too much time on their hands... not working.



Let's try to talk a bit more about news programs and a little less about the on-air staff.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: mr.jaynes on November 12, 2007, 10:11:48 AM
quote:
Originally posted by ARGUS

I wish she (Natalie) would help me spell better.



Getting a wee bit obsessed, aren't we?
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: Ibanez on November 12, 2007, 10:39:05 AM
quote:
Originally posted by ARGUS

I wish she (Natalie) would help me spell better.



As long as we're wishing....

I wish Natalie would go out with me.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: mr.jaynes on November 12, 2007, 11:14:35 AM
quote:
Originally posted by mr.jaynes

quote:
Originally posted by wavoka

quote:
Originally posted by mr.jaynes

quote:
Originally posted by wavoka

Local news is terrible...but as long as Natalie Sentz is still on KJRH I will continue to watch.



Who is Natalie Sentz?



The picture doesn't do her justice.

I've met her a couple of times out in public and she is beautiful.

The love of my life. Just don't tell my wife. (//%22http://www.kjrh.com/content/aboutus/bios/story.aspx?content_id=28921cc7-a43f-430f-ba49-0afc751a6cc9%22)



Ever notice whenever you see your local TV people out in public and they just seem different somehow?



I'll elaborate. Regardless if I'm in Tulsa, New Orleans, and the Biloxi area, I may see an anchor or reporter out in the community, and there seems to be a bit of the star-trip in the way they carry themselves, that they're apparently uncomfortable doing the things we as the general public do on a daily basis (grocery shopping, eating out at a restaurant, whatever).
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: Kashmir on November 12, 2007, 02:30:10 PM

I hear ya on the Hollywood stuff.  
What happened to Casey Norton on KOTV?
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: patric on November 12, 2007, 10:51:09 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mr.jaynes

Again, a matter of sensationalism. I mean, even Fox News does some reporting from Hollyweird and passes it off as "Hard Hitting News."

Incidentally, it's curious to learn that Fox's best-known anchor, Shepard Smith, put in a little time at Fox's A Current Affair, the standard by which tabloid TV is judged.


Are you talking about the fox cable news channel?  Comparing that to the local fox affiliate's news  operation is like comparing apples to oranges.
You can get national news anywhere 24/7, but people will still wait up for the local news.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: mr.jaynes on November 13, 2007, 11:45:49 AM
quote:
Originally posted by patric

quote:
Originally posted by mr.jaynes

Again, a matter of sensationalism. I mean, even Fox News does some reporting from Hollyweird and passes it off as "Hard Hitting News."

Incidentally, it's curious to learn that Fox's best-known anchor, Shepard Smith, put in a little time at Fox's A Current Affair, the standard by which tabloid TV is judged.


Are you talking about the fox cable news channel?  Comparing that to the local fox affiliate's news  operation is like comparing apples to oranges.
You can get national news anywhere 24/7, but people will still wait up for the local news.



I'm referring to Fox News Channel. Although I'm not yet residing in Tulsa full-time (I'm making preparations for the event even as we speak), I've seen Fox23's news when I've visited-even see some of it on the Net. It's not half bad for local news, though I can't yet comment on how good or bad it is at the moment (because I'm still in Biloxi). It's obviously not yet a Fox Owned and Operated station, doesn't take its marching orders from Roger Ailes, which is not a bad thing.

Fox News Channel, well, considering that its parent company owns tabloids galore: if it's not shilling its biased point of view for the politicians and policies it tacitly endorses, it does tend towards tabloidistic sensationalism-the latter all news has denigrated into in one degree or another.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: patric on November 13, 2007, 02:09:38 PM
Does Marler still work for TPS?
http://voicesoftulsa.com/viewtopic.php?p=6135#6135
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: sgrizzle on November 13, 2007, 02:19:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by patric

Does Marler still work for TPS?
http://voicesoftulsa.com/viewtopic.php?p=6135#6135



Yes
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: mr.jaynes on December 26, 2007, 12:35:35 AM
quote:
Originally posted by buck

I agree Natalie Sentz is adorable. You just have to get up at the butt crack of dawn to see her. Channel 2 by far has the best looking female reporters.



Well, I saw KJRH over the past few days after coming back, and there's a reporter Marlo something or other that seems to have looks and talent to match.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: movingtotulsa on December 29, 2007, 07:12:34 PM
In regards to Casey Norton, he went to Seattle back in September. He is the lead anchor for the weekend news on their ABC affiliate.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: mr.jaynes on December 30, 2007, 11:44:04 AM
In fact, looking at the majority of the talent pool on each of the stations' newscasts, I think it's fair to assume that they are all destined to move to bigger TV markets and even to national broadcasting.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: Steve on December 30, 2007, 06:34:20 PM
I think it quite unusual that Carol Lambert has been with the local ABC Ch. 8 for like 25-30 years now.  I remember when she first joined Ch. 8 and was a young perky blonde.  She must have found her niche and home, and is very comfortable in her position.  Can't fault her for that.  I guess it is testimonial to her popularity that she has been with the station for so long, as most local news personnel seem to come and go on a five year cycle.

I still miss Don Woods & Gusty, Lee Woodward & King Lionel, Mac Creager sports, etc.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: safetyguy on December 30, 2007, 10:30:19 PM
I know one of the KJRH staff that left within the past year and she said she was moving on to a larger market to further her career.
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: ARGUS on December 31, 2007, 10:57:05 AM
Local TV  news coverage is LACKING. Where is the LOCAL investigating news??? We have TONS of real actual NEWS to cover right here in the area. We get little stories that just take 20 minutes to think up run out and shoot and then play on the local news. I have told a lot of my friends this (TV sales) they agreed 50/50 that I was correct. They could have done a story on how the Minnonite(sp?) were doing during the power outage (what power outage?)
Natalie Sentz is a real looker and nice as the day is long. Hi Natalie....from that Realtor that bbq's. Big wink to you!
Title: Local TV news going downhill?
Post by: mr.jaynes on December 31, 2007, 02:49:18 PM
And just to read from a teleprompter and adlib a little banter with the coanchor and/or the TV audience at home, to be paid relatively well for their efforts! I hear Shepard Smith on Fox News will get $8m a year for simply anchoring and whatever else he does.

Are we in the wrong racket in terms of our jobs? Seems like news anchor is the way to go!