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Talk About Tulsa => Development & New Businesses => Topic started by: spoonbill on October 24, 2007, 03:14:51 PM

Title: New Lofts at Cherry Street
Post by: spoonbill on October 24, 2007, 03:14:51 PM
Looks like more lofts at Cherry Street.  Interesting design.
(http://www.tannerconsulting-llc.com/lofts.jpg)
(http://www.tannerconsulting-llc.com/lofts3.jpg)

Is anyone buying these?
Title: New Lofts at Cherry Street
Post by: spoonbill on October 24, 2007, 03:32:32 PM
Just drove by these.  Nearly complete.  Very big construction sign.  Turn north on rockford next to Hideaway.
Title: New Lofts at Cherry Street
Post by: breitee on October 24, 2007, 03:38:11 PM
Yeah, fits in perfectly with the character and architecture of the existing neighborhood just like the other condo project that was recently built.
Title: New Lofts at Cherry Street
Post by: swake on October 24, 2007, 03:51:24 PM
I like them, it will be good for the area
Title: New Lofts at Cherry Street
Post by: spoonbill on October 24, 2007, 04:03:46 PM
I think they are sharp! But I can't see anyone buying a $400,000 condo on the expressway.  Perhaps a $200,000 condo.
Title: New Lofts at Cherry Street
Post by: dsjeffries on October 24, 2007, 04:16:00 PM
While I like the idea of lofts on Cherry Street, I do not however, like these.  They should front the street.  Since they don't, they become detached from the neighborhood, add nothing to the aesthetic, and do nothing to create a more walkable neighborhood...

From page 52 of the "6th Street Infill Plan" (http://www.cityoftulsa.org/Community/Revitalization/documents/6thStreetEntire.pdf)
quote:
Subsequent discussions indicated that infill apartment construction in the 6th Street neighborhood was of poor quality and did not "fit" the surrounding neighborhood. Neighbors pointed to examples of "shoebox"-like apartment buildings, most of which were in need of maintenance. These were six to eight-unit apartment buildings, placed tightly on standard 50 foot by 140 foot lots. These infill apartment buildings were built in the 1970s and 1980s and did not line up with established setbacks; had featureless front facades; and parking lots running along the sides of the buildings. They contrasted sharply with the existing neighborhood buildings, which featured consistent setbacks for apartment buildings and houses, parking and access behind the structures via alleyways, and large porches. Though most of the existing houses and apartment buildings in this neighborhood had no driveway, infill apartment buildings generally made use of installed driveways.


These lofts have as much charm and character as the apartments featured on that page... (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2344/1733776560_a6e666e504.jpg)
Title: New Lofts at Cherry Street
Post by: Conan71 on October 24, 2007, 04:28:29 PM
quote:
Originally posted by swake

I like them, it will be good for the area



Maybe they will build some just like these on Main St. in Jenks.
Title: New Lofts at Cherry Street
Post by: swake on October 24, 2007, 05:11:35 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by swake

I like them, it will be good for the area



Maybe they will build some just like these on Main St. in Jenks.



There are already some really nice new brick ones just a block north of main. There's also about two blocks of recently cleared land just a block south of Main that I think are also going to be more lofts. I've also heard there will be a small condo tower next to TTCU just off of Main.
Title: New Lofts at Cherry Street
Post by: Renaissance on October 24, 2007, 06:03:10 PM
I dig the double balcony.  Most of the lofts I've looked at buying don't have enough patio space, which is key for entertaining.  

I agree that they should address the street where possible.  Of course, with added density comes efficient use of property, meaning that a row of lofts might fit better perpendicular to the street.
Title: New Lofts at Cherry Street
Post by: Double A on October 24, 2007, 06:49:14 PM
It looks like a glamorized dorm to me. The only lofts on Cherry St. that aren't lot cramming, out of scale, out of street orientation, scrape and rapes, are the (LEED certified?) lofts on Rockford. If I could afford one of those, I would definitely buy one.
Title: New Lofts at Cherry Street
Post by: Rico on October 24, 2007, 07:10:11 PM
I really want to see these condos... which is what they are, in 10 years or so...

Only the finest building materials will make this, or any of these structures, worth anywhere near the selling price.

You want to call them "loft style" fine... but they are not lofts... nor will they retain their value like a true loft.

If I were spending that much I would call Sager and have him carve out one in the 1st Street Building...

Those will be lofts...

The boom on Cherry Street is so much like the condo craze of the 70's... Check how they retained their value.
Title: New Lofts at Cherry Street
Post by: brunoflipper on October 24, 2007, 08:04:35 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Rico

I really want to see these condos... which is what they are, in 10 years or so...

Only the finest building materials will make this, or any of these structures, worth anywhere near the selling price.

You want to call them "loft style" fine... but they are not lofts... nor will they retain their value like a true loft.

If I were spending that much I would call Sager and have him carve out one in the 1st Street Building...

Those will be lofts...

The boom on Cherry Street is so much like the condo craze of the 70's... Check how they retained their value.


so far he's really chruning those out... cripes, how much money did we give that guy and for what? they are standing there gutted with little daily progress...
Title: New Lofts at Cherry Street
Post by: Chicken Little on October 24, 2007, 08:22:05 PM
These are going to be better.  Better street presentation, no driveway, alley access.  Much better design.

(http://kotv.com/newsimages/640/15576d05-59cf-4938-b953-63b4c96425cd.jpg)

http://kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=121521
Title: New Lofts at Cherry Street
Post by: pmcalk on October 24, 2007, 08:36:46 PM
^^Are those the LEED lofts?  They are much nicer.  They actually face the front.  How do they fit with others structures in terms of set backs & heighth?
Title: New Lofts at Cherry Street
Post by: Rico on October 24, 2007, 09:38:52 PM
quote:
Originally posted by brunoflipper

quote:
Originally posted by Rico

I really want to see these condos... which is what they are, in 10 years or so...

Only the finest building materials will make this, or any of these structures, worth anywhere near the selling price.

You want to call them "loft style" fine... but they are not lofts... nor will they retain their value like a true loft.

If I were spending that much I would call Sager and have him carve out one in the 1st Street Building...

Those will be lofts...

The boom on Cherry Street is so much like the condo craze of the 70's... Check how they retained their value.


so far he's really chruning those out... cripes, how much money did we give that guy and for what? they are standing there gutted with little daily progress...




Sager has always been sort of a Tortoise..

The permit was just issued less than two months ago..

So I figure in his slow methodical manor he is plunging forward.
Title: New Lofts at Cherry Street
Post by: Chicken Little on October 24, 2007, 10:25:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by pmcalk

^^Are those the LEED lofts?  They are much nicer.  They actually face the front.  How do they fit with others structures in terms of set backs & heighth?

I think so.  The article talks about a lot of weird, hippie stuff.[;)]  I just remembered the curves, and I noticed them again as I drove by.  Took me a while to google this, I can't even find their website.  It doesn't look like it's going to poke out too far.
Title: New Lofts at Cherry Street
Post by: spoonbill on October 25, 2007, 07:04:22 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Chicken Little

These are going to be better.  Better street presentation, no driveway, alley access.  Much better design.

(http://kotv.com/newsimages/640/15576d05-59cf-4938-b953-63b4c96425cd.jpg)

http://kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=121521



I agree.  I think the exterior is a far better design, but the interior is WACKED!  The push for LEED certification was at the cost of decent use of space. . . and the proposed solar system on the top is completley blocked by a huge tree.  
Also, I'm not sure they actually made LEED certification.  I think it was just a goal.