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Talk About Tulsa => Development & New Businesses => Topic started by: Townsend on October 12, 2007, 10:01:12 AM

Title: Advance Broken Arrow Campaign
Post by: Townsend on October 12, 2007, 10:01:12 AM
I guess I'm a bit petty.

http://www.kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=137723

Broken Arrow has a new economic development campaign called Advance Broken Arrow, and they've been asking Tulsa businesses for financial support. This of course is the same Broken Arrow, whose mayor, city council, chamber of commerce, and majority of citizens opposed the river plan. So is that having any effect on Broken Arrow's goal? The News On 6's Steve Berg reports the Ohio-based firm that's running the Broken Arrow campaign says the reaction has been a mixed bag, but he says the river result is an issue for some.

Advance Broken Arrow hopes to raise around $700,000 to help market the City of Broken Arrow. They've solicited donations from around 30 Tulsa businesses so far, and Broken Arrow Mayor Wade McCaleb doesn't think that Broken Arrow's opposition to the river plan should hurt their fundraising effort.

"It's just that there was nothing there in the program to benefit Broken Arrow, and we also felt that it would harm Broken Arrow for the next five to 10 years," Broken Arrow Mayor Wade McCaleb said.

The News On 6 asked Mayor McCaleb what was in Advance Broken Arrow for Tulsa.

"Tulsa businesses also have locations in Broken Arrow or vice-versa. Y'know a lot of people have businesses in Broken Arrow that live in Tulsa, so we are neighbors," said McCaleb.

Mayor McCaleb says the river has not been an issue with anyone he has talked with.

"I've already had some of the business leaders who were in favor of the river tax come up to me before the vote, saying let's get together, let's put this behind us and let's move on," said Wade McCaleb.

But it is an issue for some. We talked with Chip Holcombe of Ohio-based Resource Development Group, which was hired to call and ask people to contribute to Advance Broken Arrow. He says he has gotten a frosty reception from some Tulsans and that some indicated the river as the reason.

Owasso City Manager Rodney Ray supported the river, but he says he also supports the Broken Arrow plan.

"I think quite frankly that it would be somewhat petty if we were to hold all these kind of positions long after the issue was over with, so anything that I think one of us could do for the other is something we should do," said Owasso City Manager Rodney Ray.

Tulsa Mayor Kathy Taylor agreed with Ray that it would be petty to come out against Broken Arrow's plan and says she supports it.

Title: Advance Broken Arrow Campaign
Post by: RecycleMichael on October 12, 2007, 10:08:16 AM
There has got to be a "Broke in Broken Arrow" joke here somewhere.

Stay away from Broken Back Mountain references...
Title: Advance Broken Arrow Campaign
Post by: cannon_fodder on October 12, 2007, 12:00:02 PM
I still want the suburbs to do well, but not to the detriment of Tulsa.
Title: Advance Broken Arrow Campaign
Post by: dsjeffries on October 12, 2007, 01:11:16 PM
I think McCaleb is a McTwo-Faced, Back-Stabbing Crook.
Title: Advance Broken Arrow Campaign
Post by: T-Town Now on October 15, 2007, 11:58:55 AM
Let Broken Arrow advance itself. The citizens of that community spoke loud and clear last week on their priorities, and I say let them tend to their own needs, without sucking anything else out of the City of Tulsa.

We need to start a TULSA FIRST! campaign to call attention to the fact that Tulsans should make sure to spend their money in the city limits, so their city will benefit from it.

Can't do that eating in Jenks, or buying a new car in Broken Arrow.
Title: Advance Broken Arrow Campaign
Post by: Kashmir on October 15, 2007, 12:10:57 PM
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Can't do that eating in Jenks, or buying a new car in Broken Arrow.


Well, as a motion of self sacrifice, I did not go to the Kohls in Owasso for something that the  other stores in Tulsa did not have, and now when the kid wants to go to Bass Pro to see the fish, from now on, we will mess up all the displays and not buy anything (just kidding!) And use the elevator as much as possible.  My parents live in BA, and they are so ticked about the river vote they are driving into Tulsa to buy stuff, not to give BA any more $$$.


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 I think McCaleb is a McTwo-Faced, Back-Stabbing Crook.


Amen.
Title: Advance Broken Arrow Campaign
Post by: sgrizzle on October 15, 2007, 01:10:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by T-Town Now

Let Broken Arrow advance itself. The citizens of that community spoke loud and clear last week on their priorities, and I say let them tend to their own needs, without sucking anything else out of the City of Tulsa.

We need to start a TULSA FIRST! campaign to call attention to the fact that Tulsans should make sure to spend their money in the city limits, so their city will benefit from it.

Can't do that eating in Jenks, or buying a new car in Broken Arrow.



I think we should call it "Tulsa Now!"

No wait..
Title: Advance Broken Arrow Campaign
Post by: TeeDub on October 15, 2007, 01:33:36 PM

Beautiful thing about the BA campaign, is that it is completely voluntary....   No sales taxes, no rate increases, nothing that requires you to do anything.

Title: Advance Broken Arrow Campaign
Post by: RecycleMichael on October 15, 2007, 01:49:11 PM
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Originally posted by TeeDub

...nothing that requires you to do anything...


I am very successful at doing that kind of nothing.
Title: Advance Broken Arrow Campaign
Post by: Double A on October 15, 2007, 08:37:54 PM
I think I'll drive out to the Broken Arrow Steak and Shake for a bite to eat this week. It's so much more convenient than dealing with the traffic and congestion to get to the one on 71st.[;)]
Title: Advance Broken Arrow Campaign
Post by: USRufnex on October 16, 2007, 12:34:57 AM
quote:
Originally posted by T-Town Now

Let Broken Arrow advance itself. The citizens of that community spoke loud and clear last week on their priorities, and I say let them tend to their own needs, without sucking anything else out of the City of Tulsa.

We need to start a TULSA FIRST! campaign to call attention to the fact that Tulsans should make sure to spend their money in the city limits, so their city will benefit from it.

Can't do that eating in Jenks, or buying a new car in Broken Arrow.



Don't know of much reason people drive to BA or Jenks from Tulsa... and frankly, the people who do, wouldn't really give a flying fudge brownie about a TULSA FIRST! campaign.

Maybe people who choose Ft Gibson or Lake Oologah or Lake Keystone over the Arkansas River didn't really want to see a tiny chunk of their sales tax money that was spent at Owasso's Target at 96th Street North or BA's downtown benefit the 800 lb gorilla which has always been the city of Tulsa...

"Pass a river tax on your own dime" is the message from these voters... and the city coulda passed this 52 to 48... so a river-only tax that will ignore North Tulsa and East Tulsa coulda passed...

Just sayin'... don't hate the playa... hate the game...


Title: Advance Broken Arrow Campaign
Post by: sgrizzle on October 16, 2007, 07:46:48 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Double A

I think I'll drive out to the Broken Arrow Steak and Shake for a bite to eat this week. It's so much more convenient than dealing with the traffic and congestion to get to the one on 71st.[;)]



61st..

Of all the reasons to drive to BA, Steak&Shake would never be one of them for me.
Title: Advance Broken Arrow Campaign
Post by: T-Town Now on October 16, 2007, 11:07:53 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Double A

I think I'll drive out to the Broken Arrow Steak and Shake for a bite to eat this week. It's so much more convenient than dealing with the traffic and congestion to get to the one on 71st.[;)]



Good luck finding one on 71st...[}:)]
Title: Advance Broken Arrow Campaign
Post by: T-TownMike on October 16, 2007, 11:54:32 AM
If it's good for the region, than it's good for all, but with all the negativity Broken Arrow officials had recently, I would send a message to piss up a rope, B.A.