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Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: Townsend on October 11, 2007, 10:08:37 AM
I drive by the Avery museum location every day I go to work.  It's a positive reinforcement thing in my head that there is forward movement in town development.  

It also helps that it's one place I drive by where the "progress as promised" doesn't effect my drivetime.

The Arena is an obvious build.

Anyone else have a place they drive by that gives them a sense of Tulsa moving forward?

I know the street rehab downtown is a "sweep the leg" right now but it will be nice once it's done.
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: sgrizzle on October 11, 2007, 10:36:46 AM
OU Tulsa, The Centennial Green, OSU Tulsa, etc.
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: carltonplace on October 11, 2007, 10:43:29 AM
River Parks trail improvements, midland valley trail extensions, Creek Casino, 6th and Peoria


I think we should really push the administration to move forward with the Tulsa Landing deal.
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: Townsend on October 11, 2007, 11:18:47 AM
Ahhhh, feeling better already.
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: TheArtist on October 11, 2007, 11:36:47 AM
I think TU is doing a great job. Cant wait to see the new entrance finished and the street work done.

I also think the Utica Place development is going quite nicely and is yet another anchor to making that area even better. ( If only I could afford one of those penthouses, sigh...)

I am also looking forward to the Riverwalk Phase 2 getting underway.

I and some other people also have a little project in the work for a certain park near downtown that will be a nice addition. Still working on developing the idea, meeting with various and sundry city officials, getting approval and funding etc. stay tuned. [;)]
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: cannon_fodder on October 11, 2007, 02:12:45 PM
I mowed my yard yesterday, looks nice too.

Honestly, there is a lot of good things going on.  I REALLY hope they find a way to lure that large new retail on the West bank.  That and continued work on the current goings on - I'm really starting to think DT will take off in the next few years.  Lets hope office demand starts rising to help it along.
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: waterboy on October 11, 2007, 02:27:42 PM
OU expansion at 41st & Yale. Tulsa Hills shopping center has walls going up.
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: Rico on October 11, 2007, 06:46:12 PM
111 South Greenwood
Tulsa, OK

[8D]
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: Rowdy on October 11, 2007, 07:30:28 PM
The Kum n Go repainted one of their stores...
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: RecycleMichael on October 11, 2007, 07:48:38 PM
Have you seen the remodeled adult bookstore downtown?

The outside looks great...I haven't been inside, I swear.
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: tulsa1603 on October 11, 2007, 08:24:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Townsend

I drive by the Avery museum location every day I go to work.  It's a positive reinforcement thing in my head that there is forward movement in town development.  

It also helps that it's one place I drive by where the "progress as promised" doesn't effect my drivetime.

The Arena is an obvious build.

Anyone else have a place they drive by that gives them a sense of Tulsa moving forward?

I know the street rehab downtown is a "sweep the leg" right now but it will be nice once it's done.



Cheesecake Factory!!  We're a real city now! [xx(]

Uhm....I like driving through downtown, seeing the streets torn up, the arena going in, then driving over to the Brady area and seeing actual small businesses with real customers!

Oh, while it's not a project, that report that came out a few months ago showing our per capita income increasing and actually being HIGHER than Austin....That's a good sign to me.
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: sgrizzle on October 11, 2007, 08:41:31 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Rico

111 South Greenwood
Tulsa, OK

[8D]



You like permits that much?
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: sgrizzle on October 11, 2007, 08:42:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by tulsa1603



Cheesecake Factory!!  We're a real city now! [xx(]




Drove by there a little while ago. 8pm on a thursday and their were mass crowds waiting outside.
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: Rico on October 11, 2007, 09:06:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by Rico

111 South Greenwood
Tulsa, OK

[8D]



You like permits that much?




Can't say Permits have much of an impact on me....

But the number of permits requested for new construction and remodels so forth and so on....

Have an impact on all of the people within Tulsa.

They are sort of the thermometer for the financial well being of it's citizens...[;)]
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: YoungTulsan on October 11, 2007, 09:58:25 PM
Camelot is coming down, yeah buddy!

Houses along I-44 are being moved in anticipation of much needed widening on that stretch of 44.

I-44 and Yale moves traffic through now.

I make occasional trips into West Tulsa and look at how Tulsa Hills is coming along.  It is a very massive undertaking and will be a huge shopping development.

The center one expansion where the Wendys used to be on Brookside is looking nice now.

As Artist mentioned, Utica Place is really coming together and looks near completion.

The river trail enhancements are under construction, and will be nice, along with the QuikTrip meeting area that they are still going forward with in a reduced fashion...

And I checked it out the other day, there is a dam on the river, and water in it just north of 31st.  Someone should develop north of there!

I'm guessing all of that new student housing at TU will bring a lot of life to that area of 11th street (what they didnt bulldoze, lol)

And if you havent seen the arena, it is starting to look mighty impressive.  Can't wait to catch a big name act there, or a basketball game.
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: TheArtist on October 12, 2007, 09:30:08 AM
quote:
Originally posted by tulsa1603

quote:
Originally posted by Townsend

I drive by the Avery museum location every day I go to work.  It's a positive reinforcement thing in my head that there is forward movement in town development.  

It also helps that it's one place I drive by where the "progress as promised" doesn't effect my drivetime.

The Arena is an obvious build.

Anyone else have a place they drive by that gives them a sense of Tulsa moving forward?

I know the street rehab downtown is a "sweep the leg" right now but it will be nice once it's done.



Cheesecake Factory!!  We're a real city now! [xx(]

Uhm....I like driving through downtown, seeing the streets torn up, the arena going in, then driving over to the Brady area and seeing actual small businesses with real customers!

Oh, while it's not a project, that report that came out a few months ago showing our per capita income increasing and actually being HIGHER than Austin....That's a good sign to me.



You know, with all the doom and gloom we hear about Tulsa and its economy, it does suprise me when you look at some of the numbers. Tulsa actually has a highly educated populace, suprisingly so. We have a decent per capita income, and wages have been on the rise. Home values are still increasing, even in this national climate of forclosures. I was looking on a website that was comparing the number of million dollar homes in each city, Tulsa didnt do so bad compared to other nearby or comparitive cities, Tulsa 747 million dollar homes, OKC 448, Kansas City 467, St Louis 312, Omaha 308, Fort Worth 632, Now Dallas had 3,681 and Austin 2,130. But hey we still beat out OKC lol. [;)] And as we all know, THATS what matters. [:P]
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: brunoflipper on October 12, 2007, 09:37:06 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

quote:
Originally posted by tulsa1603

quote:
Originally posted by Townsend

I drive by the Avery museum location every day I go to work.  It's a positive reinforcement thing in my head that there is forward movement in town development.  

It also helps that it's one place I drive by where the "progress as promised" doesn't effect my drivetime.

The Arena is an obvious build.

Anyone else have a place they drive by that gives them a sense of Tulsa moving forward?

I know the street rehab downtown is a "sweep the leg" right now but it will be nice once it's done.



Cheesecake Factory!!  We're a real city now! [xx(]

Uhm....I like driving through downtown, seeing the streets torn up, the arena going in, then driving over to the Brady area and seeing actual small businesses with real customers!

Oh, while it's not a project, that report that came out a few months ago showing our per capita income increasing and actually being HIGHER than Austin....That's a good sign to me.



You know, with all the doom and gloom we hear about Tulsa and its economy, it does suprise me when you look at some of the numbers. Tulsa actually has a highly educated populace, suprisingly so. We have a decent per capita income, and wages have been on the rise. Home values are still increasing, even in this national climate of forclosures. I was looking on a website that was comparing the number of million dollar homes in each city, Tulsa didnt do so bad compared to other nearby or comparitive cities, Tulsa 747 million dollar homes, OKC 448, Kansas City 467, St Louis 312, Omaha 308, Fort Worth 632, Now Dallas had 3,681 and Austin 2,130. But hey we still beat out OKC lol. [;)] And as we all know, THATS what matters. [:P]

was that million dollar homes for sale or values? because "for sale" would not be a good thing... and how could we have more than kansas city?... kc, ks? sure... but kc,mo? really? i find that hard to believe... for those bigger cities, those can't be metroplex numbers and ours surely are...
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: brunoflipper on October 12, 2007, 09:45:14 AM
found my answer... in thartists thread  on some OTHER forum... theartist,  how could you?... i feel so cheap (//%22http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=3103401%22)

from the 2007 census factfinder
//http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/CTTable?_caller=geoselect&_ts=209664808996

here's the number of homes worth $1 Million+ within city limits, no suburbs... still a nice showing...

New York, NY 103,334
Los Angeles, CA 80,232
San Francisco, CA 33,066
San Diego, CA 26,339
San Jose, CA 19,142
Chicago, IL 11,757
Washington, DC 11,712
Honolulu, HI 9,772
Seattle, WA 8,386
Oakland, CA 6,669
Phoenix, AZ 5,656
Atlanta, GA 5,362
Long Beach, CA 5,256
Boston, MA 4,738
Houston, TX 4,426
Dallas, TX 3,681
Las Vegas, NV 2,837
Denver, CO 2,718
Tampa, FL 2,328
Miami, FL 2,243
Charlotte, NC 2,330
Jacksonville, FL 2,190
Austin, TX 2,130
San Juan, Puerto Rico 1,479
St Petersburg, FL 1,373
Portland, OR 1,338
Fresno, CA 1,153
Philadelphia, PA 1,129
Minneapolis, MN 1,112
Nashville-Davidson, TN 1,023
Cincinnati, OH 818
Tulsa, OK 747
Ft Worth, TX 632
Orlando, FL 549
Kansas City, MO 467
Oklahoma City, OK 448
San Antonio, TX 386
Sacramento, CA 359
St Louis, MO 312
Omaha, NE 308
Detroit, MI 125
Columbus, OH 109
Milwaukee, WI 73
Tucson, AZ 49

Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: brunoflipper on October 12, 2007, 09:47:54 AM
this is an interesting break down...

>$1MM HOME/SQ MILE

San Francisco, CA 718.8
New York, NY 341.0
Washington, DC 192.0
Los Angeles, CA 171.1
Oakland, CA 119.1
Honolulu, HI 114.4
San Jose, CA 109.4
Long Beach, CA 105.1
Seattle, WA 101.0
Boston, MA 98.7
San Diego, CA 81.3
Miami, FL 62.3
Chicago, 51.8
Atlanta, GA 40.9
San Juan, Puerto Rico 30.8
St Petersburg, FL 22.9
Las Vegas, NV 21.7
Tampa, FL 20.8
Minneapolis, MN 20.2
Denver, CO 17.8
Fresno, CA 16.5
Phoenix, AZ 11.0
Cincinnati, OH 10.5
Dallas, TX 9.6
Charlotte, NC 8.3
Houston, TX 7.4
Austin, TX 7.2
Orlando, FL 5.9
St Louis, MO 5.0
Tulsa, OK 4.1
Portland, OR 3.8
Sacramento, CA 3.7
Philadelphia, PA 3.2
Jacksonville, FL 2.9
Omaha, NE 2.7
Ft Worth, TX 2.2
Nashville, TN 2.0
Kansas City, MO 1.5
San Antonio, TX 0.9
Detroit, MI 0.9
Milwaukee, WI 0.8
Oklahoma City, OK 0.7
Columbus, OH 0.5
Tucson, AZ 0.3
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: RecycleMichael on October 12, 2007, 10:04:30 AM
I didn't see Beverly Hills on that list.

There has got to be lots of mansions in the neighborhood where the Clampets live.
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: cannon_fodder on October 12, 2007, 11:47:30 AM
Giant Naked Indian statue is still chugging along.  That's kinda cool, though I hope the giant naked statue is not excited.
- -

Per capita Million dollar homes:
city - homes - population - people per million dollar home

Sorry about the formatting, the little project turned into a lot of work and now I'm too lazy to finish it properly.  Ranked in order of most homes per capita.


San Francisco, CA -    33066   739426   22.36
Honolulu, HI -   9772   377379   38.62
Washington, DC -   11712   550221   46.98
San Jose, CA -   19142   912332   47.66
San Diego, CA -   26339   1255540   47.67
Los Angeles, CA -   80232   3844829   47.92
Oakland, CA -   6669   395274   59.27
Seattle, WA -   8386   573911   68.44
New York, NY -   103334   8100000   78.39
Atlanta, GA -   5362   470688   87.78
Long Beach, CA -   5256   474014   90.19
Boston, MA -   4738   559034   117.99
Tampa, FL -   2328   334550   143.71
Miami, FL -   2243   386417   172.28
St Petersburg, FL -   1373   249090   181.42
Las Vegas, NV -   2837   545147   192.16
Denver, CO -   2718   557917   205.27
Chicago, IL -   11757   2842518   241.77
Phoenix, AZ -   5656   1461575   258.41
Charlotte, NC -   2330   610949   262.21
San Juan, Puerto Rico -   1479   434374   293.69
Austin, TX -   2130   690252   324.06
Dallas, TX -   3681   1213825   329.75
Minneapolis, MN -   1112   372811   335.26
Jacksonville, FL -   2190   782623   357.36
Portland, OR -   1338   533427   398.67
Fresno, CA -   1153   461116   399.93
Orlando, FL -   549   220150   401
Cincinnati, OH -   818   332252   406.18
Houston, TX -   4426   2016852   455.68
Tulsa, OK -   747   382457   511.99
Nashville-Davidson, TN -   1023   549110   536.76
Kansas City, MO -   467   444965   952.82
Ft Worth, TX -   632   624067   987.45
St Louis, MO -   312   353857   1134.16
Oklahoma City, OK -   448   531324   1185.99
Sacramento, CA -   359   456441   1271.42
Omaha, NE -   308   395484   1284.04
Philadelphia, PA -   1129   1463281   1296.09
San Antonio, TX -   386   1256509   3255.2
Milwaukee, WI -   173   578887   3346.17
Columbus, OH -   109   730657   6703.28
Detroit, MI -   125   886674   7093.39
Tucson, AZ -    49   515526   10520.94
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: YoungTulsan on October 12, 2007, 02:09:28 PM
This doesnt even take into account the fact that a $750,000 home here would be like a $2-4 million home somewhere else.

Hell, in San Francisco, little shacks run several hundred large.
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: Double A on October 13, 2007, 07:27:16 PM
Tulsa Hills. Good use of a TIF to lure sales tax dollars away from Jenks, Glenpool, and Sapulpa. It might even draw some new dollars from communities along the Beeline north of the city limits.
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: swake on October 13, 2007, 08:03:10 PM
The Mayo is reopening, as a Hotel.

Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: dsjeffries on October 13, 2007, 10:32:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by swake

The Mayo is reopening, as a Hotel.



And apartments! [:D]
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: brunoflipper on October 14, 2007, 09:28:49 AM
marshall brewing company- got some the other night... a great IPA... very nice guys, they are going all in... look for co-branded beer at elliot's joints by the first of the year... but kilkennys will have marshall beer  as well... then they'll start bottling growlers... and small bottles in the spring... way too cool...[:D]
Title: Positive Thoughts, I'm excited
Post by: Double A on October 14, 2007, 11:29:28 AM
Growlers, sweet!