I saw on Cherry Street today a lot of workers. Looks like two things--first, they are finally burying the lines at the 15th & Utica intersection, which means the left turn lane & the sidewalks by Arvest bank should finally start happening. Second, they are redoing some of the sidewalks so that there are ramps on & off the streets, and I hear they will soon install crosswalks. Anyone who has ever pushed a stroller (or wheelchair) down 15th knows that this is much needed. While much still needs to be done to make it truly "pedestrian friendly," it's a start.
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Originally posted by pmcalk
I saw on Cherry Street today a lot of workers. Looks like two things--first, they are finally burying the lines at the 15th & Utica intersection, which means the left turn lane & the sidewalks by Arvest bank should finally start happening. Second, they are redoing some of the sidewalks so that there are ramps on & off the streets, and I hear they will soon install crosswalks. Anyone who has ever pushed a stroller (or wheelchair) down 15th knows that this is much needed. While much still needs to be done to make it truly "pedestrian friendly," it's a start.
I drive down Cherry Street nearly every day, and have done so for the last 7 years...I've noticed a noticeable increase in vehicular traffic - particular speed and agression - in the last year... Definitely time for some pedestrian friendly improvements. Hopefully they won't be doing any brick inlay like they did on Brookside.
No, no brick. I think all the city could afford is some paint to paint cross walks. And, to bring up to ADA standards, they also needed to throw in the ramps. Considering how long Brookside was torn up, I don't think the Cherry Street merchants could afford much else.
Please, no more of those expensive and rough bricks! Nearly everywhere I see these types of pavers installed, they are failing.
Take a look at the new crosswalks on Peoria between 33rd and 41st, the crosswalks along Main between 3rd and 6th, or the crosswalk north of OSU Tulsa on Greenwood. The crosswalks are rough, broken, and subsiding. The surrounding pavements (usually asphalt or concrete) where people are not supposed to walk are often far smoother than the brick crosswalks.
The City is squandering lots of time and money on brick sidewalks and crosswalks which are inferior in quality to good concrete.
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Originally posted by pmcalk
I saw on Cherry Street today a lot of workers. Looks like two things--first, they are finally burying the lines at the 15th & Utica intersection, which means the left turn lane & the sidewalks by Arvest bank should finally start happening. Second, they are redoing some of the sidewalks so that there are ramps on & off the streets, and I hear they will soon install crosswalks. Anyone who has ever pushed a stroller (or wheelchair) down 15th knows that this is much needed. While much still needs to be done to make it truly "pedestrian friendly," it's a start.
Arvest's controversial curb cut into Yorktown will be opened for vehicular traffic when the left turn lanes are completed. Coming up with that restriction was one of my finer moments. I hope all the extra cut through traffic it sparred Yorktown helped keep it more pedestrian friendly. I hope once it opens that doesn't change. I wonder when the third penny improvements to 16th St, Victor, and 16th Pl. in Yorktown are going to happen?
The asphalt "sidewalks" next to the Arvest Bank along 15th and Utica are junk. Tulsa deserves better quality work than this.
I've always thought that the asphalt sidewalks were temporary since the city has planned street improvments at the intersection. Or it could be developers method of letting the city provide the sidewalks that developer was responsible for.
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Originally posted by carltonplace
I've always thought that the asphalt sidewalks were temporary since the city has planned street improvments at the intersection.
I believe this is the case.
I've seen another fine asphalt sidewalk on 11th street just east of the IDL underpass near that park. They just finished putting it in.
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Originally posted by NellieBly
I've seen another fine asphalt sidewalk on 11th street just east of the IDL underpass near that park. They just finished putting it in.
It's not a sidewalk, it's part of the metro trails. It links to the River. http://map.incog.org/website/trails/viewer.htm
I'm not sure what the developer's intention was, but those asphalt "sidewalks" at 15th & Utica are junk. They've been there for awhile -- a year or two at least. The work was poor quality and junk from the instant it was installed. Yorktown neighborhood and Tulsa deserve better treatment than this.
I'm not certain, but I think this might be the same developer who filed a suit against the TMAPC in order to avoid building a sidewalk on the east side of Utica just south of Utica Square.
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Originally posted by booWorld
I'm not sure what the developer's intention was, but those asphalt "sidewalks" at 15th & Utica are junk. They've been there for awhile -- a year or two at least. The work was poor quality and junk from the instant it was installed. Yorktown neighborhood and Tulsa deserve better treatment than this.
I'm not certain, but I think this might be the same developer who filed a suit against the TMAPC in order to avoid building a sidewalk on the east side of Utica just south of Utica Square.
Well the sidewalks were paved with asphalt as a temporary measure, because 15th and Utica was suppost to be widened shortly after completion of the arvest building. The third penny sales tax funding dried up though, and the project was delayed. The widening was then rescheduled for May of this year, but PSO took longer than planned with planning their utility relocations. The widening is now scheduled to start in November, pending relocation of the PSO lines.
Shoddy "temporary" sidewalks should not be allowed in Tulsa.
Does anyone remember when the asphalt was slopped down along 15th & Utica?
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Originally posted by booWorld
Shoddy "temporary" sidewalks should not be allowed in Tulsa.
Does anyone remember when the asphalt was slopped down along 15th & Utica?
Try having the sidewalks directly across from each other torn up on both sides of your street and used as staging areas for construction materials for luxury loft, lot cramming, scrape and rape, contemporary, mcmansions for a year. Add to that lots of on street parking from construction workers, visitors to nearby bars, restaurants and retail, a pedestrian nightmare is created for the neighborhood. That's how they make life better in the area they've proclaimed to rename NoChe.
Construction happens.