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Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: TulsaJayhawk on September 18, 2007, 04:28:05 PM
From the helicopter video shots provided by KTUL, it looks like the west side of the formerly grand hotel has a fairly serious fire happening right now.

How interesting that this happens on the second day of demolition.
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: Townsend on September 18, 2007, 04:30:25 PM
Implying QT is asking for assistance from TFD to carry some of the asbestos away?
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: pmcalk on September 18, 2007, 04:46:38 PM
Anyone living over there might want to take a break from breathing for a bit....
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: cannon_fodder on September 18, 2007, 04:47:56 PM
is the old city hall burning yet?

or the crappy house next door to me?
- - -

Wait a minute, didn't the last high profile property the city condemned burn down?  Where was Kathy this afternoon?
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: Townsend on September 18, 2007, 04:50:18 PM
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

is the old city hall burning yet?

or the crappy house next door to me?
- - -

Wait a minute, didn't the last high profile property the city condemned burn down?  Where was Kathy this afternoon?



China/India...good cover huh?  2,000,000,000 witnesses
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: TURobY on September 18, 2007, 04:50:29 PM
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder
Wait a minute, didn't the last high profile property the city condemned burn down?  Where was Kathy this afternoon?



I smell a juicy conspiracy. [;)]
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: waterboy on September 18, 2007, 04:50:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

is the old city hall burning yet?

or the crappy house next door to me?
- - -

Wait a minute, didn't the last high profile property the city condemned burn down?  Where was Kathy this afternoon?



[:D] We should be so lucky.
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: Breadburner on September 18, 2007, 05:04:50 PM
Wow the news reporters are so intelligent.....

"The Smoke is clean and safe"

"We think the smoke and fire is coming from inside the building"



Way to go Ch. 2.....
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: Townsend on September 18, 2007, 05:05:11 PM
KOKI is saying that the mattresses and carpet thrown out of the building was what caught on fire.

There were still freaking mattresses in there?  That must be nasty.
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: YoungTulsan on September 18, 2007, 05:14:36 PM
I assume (well, hope) that since demolition started yesterday, that asbestos abatement had already been completed.  I live nearby, but luckily the wind is blowing the other way right now :D
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: AngieB on September 18, 2007, 05:19:21 PM
The concept and voice-over is lame, but here's a video showing some fairly recent interior shots: http://one.revver.com/watch/74345/flv/affiliate/30734
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: cannon_fodder on September 18, 2007, 06:07:03 PM
Asbestos FIBER is what I understand to be dangerous.  Asbestos itself does not burn anyway, that's why it was used on parts of the Saturn 5 Rocket.  But I still wouldnt breath it.  [:I]
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: HazMatCFO on September 18, 2007, 08:42:50 PM
Probably a little red phosphorous in the carpet left over from meth lab cookers. A little friction and there you go, fire!
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: Porky on September 18, 2007, 09:03:57 PM
(http://i7.tinypic.com/61wn0bo.jpg)
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: sauerkraut on September 19, 2007, 11:44:39 AM
Does anyone know if that hotel is made out of wood, or does it have a steel frame? If it is all wood it can be darn dangerous. Wood collapses easy in fires.
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: BKDotCom on September 19, 2007, 12:39:47 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sauerkraut

Does anyone know if that hotel is made out of wood, or does it have a steel frame? If it is all wood it can be darn dangerous. Wood collapses easy in fires.
how many floors is it??
Do you know of any 10+ story buildings made of wood??
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: sauerkraut on September 19, 2007, 02:13:29 PM
quote:
Originally posted by BKDotCom

quote:
Originally posted by sauerkraut

Does anyone know if that hotel is made out of wood, or does it have a steel frame? If it is all wood it can be darn dangerous. Wood collapses easy in fires.
how many floors is it??
Do you know of any 10+ story buildings made of wood??

I didn't know how tall it was. There have been buildings made totally out of wood in the past. One that is still around is the Grand Hotel on Macknaw Island in Michigan, it's 2 or 3 stories high and something like 600' long and all wood. Most other large all wood buildings have been distroyed by fire.
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: shadows on September 19, 2007, 03:51:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sauerkraut

Does anyone know if that hotel is made out of wood, or does it have a steel frame? If it is all wood it can be darn dangerous. Wood collapses easy in fires.


The twin towers were steel and concrete and they seemed to have burned with a little help.

Is the city or insurance company now obligated to clean up the rubble ? You can't beat them as they deal from the bottom of the deck.  
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: YoungTulsan on September 19, 2007, 04:19:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by shadows

quote:
Originally posted by sauerkraut

Does anyone know if that hotel is made out of wood, or does it have a steel frame? If it is all wood it can be darn dangerous. Wood collapses easy in fires.


The twin towers were steel and concrete and they seemed to have burned with a little help.



Burning jet fuel is a completely different story.
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: sauerkraut on September 20, 2007, 10:34:01 AM
The steel in the twin towers sat in 2000 degree flames for a hour and became glowing red hot and got soft and pulled away from their supports. Then once the supports gave way the tons of building weight above the weak area just collasped down. The steel did not melt, no regular fire can make enough heat to melt steel.
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: Townsend on September 20, 2007, 10:38:08 AM
quote:
Originally posted by sauerkraut

The steel in the twin towers sat in 2000 degree flames for a hour and became glowing red hot and got soft and pulled away from their supports. Then once the supports gave way the tons of building weight above the weak area just collasped down. The steel did not melt, no regular fire can make enough heat to melt steel.



So you're saying it wasn't the explosives planted there before the planes hit.

edit : to clarify, that is a joke.  we don't need the thread going that direction...please
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: Breadburner on September 20, 2007, 12:45:28 PM
"They pulled it".....
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: Conan71 on September 20, 2007, 12:52:01 PM
Someone call altruism suffers...
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: sauerkraut on September 21, 2007, 10:23:57 AM
They built a 3 or 4 story hotel out of wood here in Columbus, Ohio about 5 years ago. It's across the street from a Wendy's Restaurant, right off I-70 & Rome-Hilliard Road. The nane escapes me now. I know it's all wood because I seen it go up when they were building it. I guess they would have all the up to date fire prevention systems in the building and fire escapes and things like that.
Title: Camelot Hotel on Fire
Post by: tulsascoot on September 23, 2007, 06:55:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Townsend

quote:
Originally posted by sauerkraut

The steel in the twin towers sat in 2000 degree flames for a hour and became glowing red hot and got soft and pulled away from their supports. Then once the supports gave way the tons of building weight above the weak area just collasped down. The steel did not melt, no regular fire can make enough heat to melt steel.



So you're saying it wasn't the explosives planted there before the planes hit.

edit : to clarify, that is a joke.  we don't need the thread going that direction...please


you started it. i`ve seen the videos.