I went to the City Council Meeting tonight and witnessed the passing of a resolution between the Mayor and Council that expressed support and love for the Tulsa Drillers to stay in Tulsa.
I am usually too lazy or afraid to speak before the council on most issues, but this one was special to me. The actual resolution has no standing and was as unofficial as the failed resolution the week before on non-support of the river tax. I knew what was said didn't matter, but I just wanted to say something to a bigger audience than just you guys here on TulsaNow.
I spoke briefly, just saying I was in support and wanted the Tulsa Driller management to know that we love them and don't want them to leave. I babbled some nonsense about how the river plan was spending a lot of many to build community gathering spots and we already had a good one called "the ballpark".
Baseball has been one of my favorite pastimes. I have never lived more than three miles from the ballpark in Tulsa and have gone to at least a dozen games a year for the last 25 years. My first jobs were at the old ballpark, doing everything from batboy to grounds crew to hawking programs to sodas (I had a loud, bellowing call of ICE COLD POP!).
My son's middle name is after a baseball player and I have always said if I when the powerball lottery the first thing I would do is buy the Drillers and change nothing. I really love baseball and the Tulsa Drillers.
The next game is Tuesday night and I plan to go and tell everybody who works there that we want them to stay in Tulsa. Come join me and help me sing that song.
I am sure they would be successful with a stadium in the suburbs because they are such a class act. But they have such a long and illustrious history of baseball in Tulsa and I think would not be the same if they moved to a different town. I am a "regional is good" guy on most things, but I just don't want to share the Drillers.
When the home team scores a run, I want home plate to be in Tulsa.
They had an easier time with this resolution this week, than they did with that River Vote one last week.
Amen, brother. My dad and uncle used to take me to the season opener every year. I remember one opener, I think it was 1988, where they had people sitting 5-deep in the outfield because they didn't realize there was no limit on the number of general admissions tickets sold!
I pitched peanuts there in high school and college, for $0.25/item sold. My buddies and I would go and move down to behind home plate if we could find some seats, and eat sunflower seeds and heckle the opposing teams' hitters.
Drillers Stadium may be unremarkable architecturally, but it's remarkably full of memories. I can support a move within Tulsa, but I'm horrified that they might leave the city for green suburban pastures (literally). I can't go to council meetings, but I will busy myself writing anyone I can.
RM--I think that's a great idea--an unofficial "keep Drillers in Tulsa" night. Obviously, numbers is what will keep them in the city, not resolutions. But you did a great job speaking tonight. What time is the game?
The game on Tuesday starts at 7:05 and the gates open at 6pm. There are free tickets at area advertisers like QuikTrip, Mazzios's and Arby's.
http://www.tulsadrillers.com/
I am going to get there early and try to talk to people before they enter the ballpark.
I don't have a plan together yet, but a few of us have been talking about trying to make some positive statements about how much we want the Drillers to stay in Tulsa.
If anyone would like to volunteer to help us on Tuesday, send me a private message on my e-mail, recyclemichael@yahoo.com.
RM, if you were so inclined you could probably get permission from the Drillers to set up a table and get people to sign a petition if you worded it carefully. It could say nothing bad about a jenks move, but "encourage the city of Tulsa and/or Tulsa developers to assist the Drillers in a downtown or riverside ballpark in Tulsa." Something like that...
The Driller's are a business, they want whatever will make them some $$$. This Jenks thing might be leverage to get Tulsa in the game, and an "oh well" if they end up moving.
One way or another, a petition delivery at a meeting is always dramatic. And it would give you some direction/plan instead of being the mad man ranting about something or other at a public event. I always assume they work for Jebus. [;)]
If they will not give you permission or you do not want to go that route, you could carry a clip board. Outside the stadium is definitely public space and a proper forum for a political voice.
FYI..This site went up earlier this week.
www.savetulsabaseball.com
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Originally posted by recyclemichael
My son's middle name is after a baseball player . . . .
Oh, Lord. You didn't name the poor child Mookie, did you?
Let's see Jenks match our baseball heritage . . . .
(http://www.tulsalibrary.org/JPG/A1145.jpg)
Tulsa Baseball, Indian Territory
(from the Beryl Ford Collection)
Wow, I would so party with those guys. Especially the guy with the fedora in the back... though I'd watch my wallet closely. Awesome picture.
Now THAT is style.
I'm a little surprised (gleefully so) by the reaction to the Drillers possible move. I had no idea that Tulsa loved it's team so much.
Being from Baltimore and losing the Colts to Indianapolis many years ago - I can understand it. I still follow and root for the Orioles even though I haven't lived in Baltimore for 32 years. I grew up on great baseball (Brooks Robinson, Frank Robinson, Boog Powell, Davey Johnson, Jim Palmer - and Playoff Series and World Series within walking distance of where I lived.
Baseball is in my genes, my blood and my heart.
Guess I'm surprised because:
1. When I go to the games, the attendance is less than I'd think for a city that loves and supports it's team.
2. I hardly ever see a bumper or window sticker in traffic supporting the team. I only know of one billboard for the Drillers.
3. There are so few in-depth sports reporting stories on the team on local news. So much more about college football.
4. Very few people I have met in the 14 years I've been here actually go to the games or support the team.
It's good to see passion - even if it is too few people and too late in the game.
If both BA and Jenks want the team, and the city (Tulsa) does nothing - the team will probably relocate. Maybe its time to accept the fact that the Drillers will become a "local" team and not just a Tulsa city team.
Personally, based on the "support" I've seen - that might not be a bad thing. A move would attract new fans, new sponsors, and a city that is truly behind the team - not just for nostalgia's sake - but get behind the team by putting their behinds in the seats.
If Chucky moves the team - I'll still go to games. Maybe more often if there's other new, cool stuff around the new park.
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Originally posted by Kiah
Let's see Jenks match our baseball heritage . . . .
(http://www.tulsalibrary.org/JPG/A1145.jpg)
Tulsa Baseball, Indian Territory
(from the Beryl Ford Collection)
Top left guy looks like DoubleA.
From Fox 23 News website
http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=7f317fd0-6f89-4fd0-981f-6dc17b9df62d&rss=77
"Ironically, just today the "Sports Business Journal" ranked Tulsa in the top ten cities in the country for minor league sports. The magazine ranked Tulsa eighth because of it's rich tradition as a minor league baseball town."
Wow. Top Ten.
Would a move from city proper into the county affect that? Or would it still count if the team is in the metro area?
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Originally posted by restored2x
I'm a little surprised (gleefully so) by the reaction to the Drillers possible move. I had no idea that Tulsa loved it's team so much.
Being from Baltimore and losing the Colts to Indianapolis many years ago - I can understand it. I still follow and root for the Orioles even though I haven't lived in Baltimore for 32 years. I grew up on great baseball (Brooks Robinson, Frank Robinson, Boog Powell, Davey Johnson, Jim Palmer - and Playoff Series and World Series within walking distance of where I lived.
Baseball is in my genes, my blood and my heart.
Guess I'm surprised because:
1. When I go to the games, the attendance is less than I'd think for a city that loves and supports it's team.
2. I hardly ever see a bumper or window sticker in traffic supporting the team. I only know of one billboard for the Drillers.
3. There are so few in-depth sports reporting stories on the team on local news. So much more about college football.
4. Very few people I have met in the 14 years I've been here actually go to the games or support the team.
It's good to see passion - even if it is too few people and too late in the game.
If both BA and Jenks want the team, and the city (Tulsa) does nothing - the team will probably relocate. Maybe its time to accept the fact that the Drillers will become a "local" team and not just a Tulsa city team.
Personally, based on the "support" I've seen - that might not be a bad thing. A move would attract new fans, new sponsors, and a city that is truly behind the team - not just for nostalgia's sake - but get behind the team by putting their behinds in the seats.
If Chucky moves the team - I'll still go to games. Maybe more often if there's other new, cool stuff around the new park.
EVERYONE just
RELAX, and take a few deep breaths.
Feel better? Driller-induced Panic attack subsiding?
FYI, Baseball, Football, and Basketball franchise owners have a long-perfected extortion technique to vacumn tax-payer money to get concessions from some Goobermint Authority, and also to
build new Stadiums.It has been going on all over the U.S. for at least the past 25 years.
After getting a virtual free-ride for decades from loyal fans, a club owner suddenly announces that they must have a new _________ stadium, or else they'll move the club.
SO MUCH for so-called LOYALTY. It's a ONE-WAY Street, folks!
Many cities cry "
THE SKY IS FALLING", and pay this Gray-Mail to Club Owners
Don't fall for it. Driller Stadium costs the Drillers all of
$78,000 per year in fees and concessions stand percentages. That is a miserly pittance.
Who else would be so DUMB as to give them such a sweetheart deal free ride??
Oh, of course, County Goobermint.
So, everyone, Just
RELAX.
No...
If we don't step in and help the Drillers and tell them we want them to stay, they will leave.
I agree that sports teams play the game for a new stadium all over the country. In 26 years, the Drillers never have and now they are getting very good interest by other cities.
Stand back and do nothing if you want, I am encouraging action.
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Originally posted by pmcalk
RM--I think that's a great idea--an unofficial "keep Drillers in Tulsa" night. Obviously, numbers is what will keep them in the city, not resolutions. But you did a great job speaking tonight. What time is the game?
I am not much of a sports fan, but I, too am inspired by your idea of a keep Drillers in Tulsa night. I will try to get some of my friends who are sports fans to go, too. They still sell beer, right?
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Originally posted by Double A
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Originally posted by pmcalk
RM--I think that's a great idea--an unofficial "keep Drillers in Tulsa" night. Obviously, numbers is what will keep them in the city, not resolutions. But you did a great job speaking tonight. What time is the game?
I am not much of a sports fan, but I, too am inspired by your idea of a keep Drillers in Tulsa night. I will try to get some of my friends who are sports fans to go, too. They still sell beer, right?
Last time I went, they did. After all, that's kind of the point of going to baseball, isn't it? Drink beer, eat hotdogs & pretzels, drink more beer, etc.... (just try to have an alternative way home)
Tulsans go out to the ballpark
Played right here in our town
We'll buy plenty of CrackerJack
Or all that we can to have you come back
So we root, root, root for the Drillers
If you leave, it will be a shame
I wish there was one, two, three ways to say
We love you Drillers, please stay
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Originally posted by Kiah
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Originally posted by recyclemichael
My son's middle name is after a baseball player . . . .
Oh, Lord. You didn't name the poor child Mookie, did you?
A friend of mine's 9-year-old son is named Yogi...
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Originally posted by recyclemichael
No...
If we don't step in and help the Drillers and tell them we want them to stay, they will leave.
I agree that sports teams play the game for a new stadium all over the country. In 26 years, the Drillers never have and now they are getting very good interest by other cities.
Stand back and do nothing if you want, I am encouraging action.
It's merely a grey-mail tactic from the Franchise Owner Mr. Lamson. Don't fall for it.
If the Drillers move to Jenks, I expect that Jenks tax payers will be footing the bill for a new stadium Unless, it is actually envisioned that the Kaiser River Tax money can be diverted for "River Development" meaning a new stadium ON THE ARKANSAS RIVER, as their reward for Jenks helping pass the Kaiser River Tax.
The County will then just have an empty stadium. Convicted Oil Racketeer Robert Sutton paid for the stadium, which was originally name Sutton Stadium. Subsequently renamed upon Federal Felony Conviction as an Oil Racketeer.
If the Drillers move to Jenks, the County will lose a measley $78,000 per year income stream, less than Bell's was actually paying them,
UNLESS THE COUNTY ACTUALLY BUILDS THE NEW JENKS STADIUM.
As a business man, Mr. Lamson would be gambling on a KNOWN capture of 4000-5000 fans each and every home game in Driller Stadium, plus a sweet-heart deal on the concession stand percentages vs. an
UNKNOWN ATTENDANCE in Jenks.
Again, I think it's just a baiting tactic, for Lamson to extort County concessions in advance of the Kaiser River Tax County-wide vote.
I think you overthink and over-conspire everything.
The Drillers want a new stadium. They have a lease that is up in 2009. They are a class act and are highly sought out anchor tenant for development.
It is not all tied up into oil-conspiracy, extorting county concessions stand percentages, river improvement votes, or the coverup of who shot Kennedy.
Yes, sports teams across America occasionally want a new stadium. The Drillers have never asked in their 26 year history.
I want that stadium to be in Tulsa.
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Originally posted by recyclemichael
I went to the City Council Meeting tonight and witnessed the passing of a resolution between the Mayor and Council that expressed support and love for the Tulsa Drillers to stay in Tulsa.
I am usually too lazy or afraid to speak before the council on most issues, but this one was special to me. The actual resolution has no standing and was as unofficial as the failed resolution the week before on non-support of the river tax. I knew what was said didn't matter, but I just wanted to say something to a bigger audience than just you guys here on TulsaNow.
I spoke briefly, just saying I was in support and wanted the Tulsa Driller management to know that we love them and don't want them to leave. I babbled some nonsense about how the river plan was spending a lot of many to build community gathering spots and we already had a good one called "the ballpark".
Baseball has been one of my favorite pastimes. I have never lived more than three miles from the ballpark in Tulsa and have gone to at least a dozen games a year for the last 25 years. My first jobs were at the old ballpark, doing everything from batboy to grounds crew to hawking programs to sodas (I had a loud, bellowing call of ICE COLD POP!).
My son's middle name is after a baseball player and I have always said if I when the powerball lottery the first thing I would do is buy the Drillers and change nothing. I really love baseball and the Tulsa Drillers.
The next game is Tuesday night and I plan to go and tell everybody who works there that we want them to stay in Tulsa. Come join me and help me sing that song.
I am sure they would be successful with a stadium in the suburbs because they are such a class act. But they have such a long and illustrious history of baseball in Tulsa and I think would not be the same if they moved to a different town. I am a "regional is good" guy on most things, but I just don't want to share the Drillers.
When the home team scores a run, I want home plate to be in Tulsa.
The Driller's are a business.
Your loyalty is both arcane and totally one-sided.
You love a business owned by someone else?
The club owners have ZERO loyalty to a locale.
They have proved this in the dozens of moves of professional sports franchises, leaving disappointed fans behind every time.
Brooklyn Dodgers, Seattle Sea Hawks, Baltimore Colts, St. Louis Cardinals Football, Milwaukee Braves, Houston Oilers, etc., etc., etc.
Even the former Tulsa Oilers, a AAA-team, moved to New Orleans to become the Zephyrs.
The AA-Drillers filled in behind them.
If the Drillers move to Jenks, maybe Tulsa can attract a AAA-team, and then promptly put the the Jenks Drillers out of business!
It's only biz-ness, Sonny. It's not personal. Michael Corleone.
Take THAT, Mr. Lamson 719. [B)]
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Originally posted by recyclemichael
I think you overthink and over-conspire everything.
The Drillers want a new stadium. They have a lease that is up in 2009. They are a class act and are highly sought out anchor tenant for development.
It is not all tied up into oil-conspiracy, extorting county concessions stand percentages, river improvement votes, or the coverup of who shot Kennedy.
Yes, sports teams across America occasionally want a new stadium. The Drillers have never asked in their 26 year history.
I want that stadium to be in Tulsa.
Why make personal attacks?
They don't help you advance your argument.
Simply show me where I'm wrong.
Tone down your passion. Passion matters not when the businessman decides to move the team you love to a new town. Ask Houston Oilers fans. St. Louis Cardinal Fans. Etc.
The fans are simply discarded as their usefulness to the Club Owner is over, and the teams moves on. After you expending all those years and years of loyalty on a
THING.
Now, the Angst.
Did BELL's Amusement Park have some loyal patrons? Apparently, it did not matter to their landlord.
A lease is a two-way street. Yes, the lease is up after the 2009 baseball season.
Which really doesn't leave the team owner with all that much time to get a new stadium negotiated and built.
Who wouldn't want a new stadium if they don't have to pay for it???????
Don't forget the Minnesota North Stars......This whole thing makes me laugh.....Drillers are going nowhere....The Jenks deal will never happen......
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Originally posted by Breadburner
Don't forget the Minnesota North Stars......This whole thing makes me laugh.....Drillers are going nowhere....The Jenks deal will never happen......
Ah yes, the loyal Minnesota North Stars fans can continue to watch their team as the
DALLAS STARS on ESPN....
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
You love a business owned by someone else?
Yes.
The Drillers have always been a class act. My family goes to many games and everyone on their staff welcomes us, offers assistance and provides very professional customer service. They deserve my business and earn it every game.
What is wrong with having loyalty to a company that has a long history of quality service? How do you choose whom to do business with?
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Originally posted by recyclemichael
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
You love a business owned by someone else?
Yes.
The Drillers have always been a class act. My family goes to many games and everyone on their staff welcomes us, offers assistance and provides very professional customer service. They deserve my business and earn it every game.
What is wrong with having loyalty to a company that has a long history of quality service? How do you choose whom to do business with?
I guess I view loyalty as a two-way street.
For instance, employees who are very loyal to their employer just need to wonder if that loyalty will be reciprocated.
If you're actually getting something of value at an entertainment venue that you loyally adher to, that is a valid feeling.
Relaxation through entertainment is a good pastime.
If the Drillers leave, maybe you can take up gardening, after a suitable period of mourning.
Or, taking long walks along the so-called City "Right-of-Way", vacumning up
NO RIVER TAX signs, right out of peoples yards......
[}:)]
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by recyclemichael
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
You love a business owned by someone else?
Yes.
The Drillers have always been a class act. My family goes to many games and everyone on their staff welcomes us, offers assistance and provides very professional customer service. They deserve my business and earn it every game.
What is wrong with having loyalty to a company that has a long history of quality service? How do you choose whom to do business with?
I guess I view loyalty as a two-way street.
For instance, employees who are very loyal to their employer just need to wonder if that loyalty will be reciprocated.
If you're actually getting something of value at an entertainment venue that you loyally adher to, that is a valid feeling.
Relaxation through entertainment is a good pastime.
If the Drillers leave, maybe you can take up gardening, after a suitable period of mourning.
Or, taking long walks along the so-called City "Right-of-Way", vacumning up NO RIVER TAX signs, right out of peoples yards......
[}:)]
As a young man, I recall Lloyd, I mean Bear, having this to say about his career options as an adult:
I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career. I don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or processed, or process anything sold, bought, or processed, or repair anything sold, bought, or processed. You know, as a career, I don't want to do that.
While Mookie and Yogi are fine, upstanding names, neither played for my favorite MLB team, the St. Louis Cardinals. My son's name comes from a Cardinal player.
Tonight is the Driller game.
Get some free tickets and come out and tell the Drillers we want them to stay in Tulsa.
You didn't name him "Bake" did you?
Remember Bake?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bake_McBride
When I was a teenager, Bake McBride played for the Tulsa Oilers baseball team. I was a worker at the park that year, doing everything from grounds crew to batboy to cleaning up the locker room.
Three or four times after a game, Bake Mcbride would put my bike in the trunk of his car and give me a ride home. Once we even stopped by McDonald's and he bought me a burger and soft drink.
He would just love to talk about baseball and I knew he was going to be special.
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Originally posted by recyclemichael
When I was a teenager, Bake McBride played for the Tulsa Oilers baseball team. I was a worker at the park that year, doing everything from grounds crew to batboy to cleaning up the locker room.
Three or four times after a game, Bake Mcbride would put my bike in the trunk of his car and give me a ride home. Once we even stopped by McDonald's and he bought me a burger and soft drink.
He would just love to talk about baseball and I knew he was going to be special.
I enjoy occasionally going to Driller baseball, and while I definitely hope they will stay at their perfectly adequate and fully paid for Fairgrounds facility, I would not offer them financial incentives to stay in Tulsa.
It only costs Mr. Lamson around $78K per year for the facilities and concession split at Driller Stadium. He probably clears at least $500K per year. Easily. Probably much more.
Let's get Randi Miller to OUT the Driller's business plan, then we'll ALL know!
Sports Franchise Owners have demonstrated countless times, that their only loyalty is to themselves, and the Almight Dollar.
And, that
Loyalty to No City is exacerbated by the club owners Overactive Ego.
A volatile mixture.
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Originally posted by recyclemichael
When I was a teenager, Bake McBride played for the Tulsa Oilers baseball team. I was a worker at the park that year, doing everything from grounds crew to batboy to cleaning up the locker room.
Three or four times after a game, Bake Mcbride would put my bike in the trunk of his car and give me a ride home. Once we even stopped by McDonald's and he bought me a burger and soft drink.
He would just love to talk about baseball and I knew he was going to be special.
How cool! Sounds to me like he was already special.
Did you name your boy Bake?
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Sports Franchise Owners have demonstrated countless times, that their only loyalty is to themselves, and the Almight Dollar.
I would say Chuck Lamson is far from a typical franchise owner. He has been with the Drillers forever and owner for a few years in which he has made no significant changes. Now he talks about maybe he might change something in 2-3 years and he is accused about being an egomaniacal money grubber. Impressive.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Sports Franchise Owners have demonstrated countless times, that their only loyalty is to themselves, and the Almight Dollar.
I would say Chuck Lamson is far from a typical franchise owner. He has been with the Drillers forever and owner for a few years in which he has made no significant changes. Now he talks about maybe he might change something in 2-3 years and he is accused about being an egomaniacal money grubber. Impressive.
Whatever his qualities personally, his current strategy fits the pattern of Franchise Owners: They want the fans to LOVE them until the owners get a better deal, and happily sell them down the river.
Or, maybe he's just testing the water.
His ploy may only be part of the Snakey-Turncoat-and-Flake PR campaign to create "River Buzzzzzzzzzzz".
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Originally posted by recyclemichael
While Mookie and Yogi are fine, upstanding names, neither played for my favorite MLB team, the St. Louis Cardinals. My son's name comes from a Cardinal player.
Tonight is the Driller game.
Get some free tickets and come out and tell the Drillers we want them to stay in Tulsa.
Ozzzzzzzeeeeeeee . . . .
From KOTV (//%22http://www.kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=134910%22)
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Baseball fanatics take a swing at keeping the Drillers in Tulsa. Die hard Drillers fans showed up to the stadium Tuesday night to cheer on the team, and to keep the organization from moving to Jenks. News On 6 anchor Omar Villafranca met with a few of the supporters; he reports the team is fighting to make the Texas League playoffs, while the fans are hoping to keep the team playing in the Tulsa ballpark.
Loyal Drillers fans lined up before the first pitch to support Tulsa's baseball team, and while the team warmed up, fans that read "Tulsa Loves Our Drillers" were handed out to baseball fans. Ralph Erz and his wife Marilyn believe baseball just wouldn't be the same in Jenks.
"It wouldn't' be, it wouldn't be, no, it's Tulsa, Tulsa Drillers," said Drillers fan Ralph Erz.
"We're baseball people so we love it," said Ralph's wife Marilyn Erz.
Ralph and his wife started going to Drillers games back in the 70s, he doesn't want the team to move to Jenks, or from this stadium.
"It's just a great location here, it's easy to get to," he said. "To take it downtown I think would be a mistake. I think you'd lose fans."
Mike Patton of savetulsabaseball.com brought homemade signs to the game. He wants to preserve Tulsa's baseball history by keeping the game in town. He admits Jenks might end up stealing the Drillers home plate, but felt he had to do something.
"You know if they left town and we didn't do anything we'd feel terrible," said Mike Patton, creator of savetulsabaseball.com. "So that's why we got together so quickly. I mean this is a last ditch effort, a 9th inning rally to try and make something happen."
"Tulsa Loves Our Drillers" fans were handed out by savetulsabaseball.com before the game, hoping to sway the teams decision, but a big factor in that decision is Tulsa Mayor Kathy Taylor. She was at Tuesday's game, she says she wants the Drillers to stay in Tulsa and play ball in downtown Tulsa, but no plans about that ballpark have been made public. In contrast Jenks developers have already showed private money and plans for a new ballpark to the Drillers. The News On 6 asked Mayor Taylor if the City of Tulsa is all talk.
"I can tell you we've drawn ball stadiums, we've been working with Chuck and his advisors for the last six months," said Tulsa Mayor Kathy Taylor. "The announcement in Jenks was a non-binding letter of intent, it's just what we have with Chuck, and that is serious discussions about the right place for the future of the Tulsa Drillers."
Of course we'll have to see how this all plays out. According to people at the gate attendance for a Tuesday night, free ticket game was up slightly, and it might have something to do with savetulsabaseball.com.
Whoa, Mike Patton from Mr. Bungle, Fantomos, and Faith No More? [;)]
Thanks for the update.
We had a great time at the ballpark last night.
We passed out a thousand plus bumper stickers and hundreds of homemade fans. Many people came by to tell us how much they loved the Drillers and wanted them to stay in Tulsa.
My favorite part was when a bunch of kids presented the blue bull mascot Hornsby with a couple of dozen red roses. Hornsby was very gracious and posed for pictures with kids over and over again. He is just more proof that the Drillers are a class act and the ballpark is a great place for families.
I live in Jenks and I gotta say I'm not jumping up and down over this whole possibility. The existing infrastructure can't even accommodate the traffic in and out of Riverwalk Crossing. I'd hate to see what adding the Drillers to that mix would do -- especially on a weekend.
I'd just as soon see the Drillers stay in Tulsa myself, but I'm not excited about going downtown to see them. I'd rather they stay at the fairgrounds the way God intended.
I'd rather have them at the fairgrounds too.
But it's probably time, they know what they're looking for better than I do. If they want an updated stadium downtown, let's do it.
Are you people completely delusional? That stadium is a dump. It's worse that the old 89er's stadium in OKC.
If they move it to downtown, where are they going to put it? Across from the new Walmart? Over by the jail? Oh wait that's where the new arena is going. No one has bothered to actually put some thought into it. All I hear is, "Wah wah wah, it's OUR team."
If you don't want the team to move to Jenks then build them a stadium that's half-way decent. Quit living in your childhoods, like you've done with everything else in this town, and realize it's 2007.
Another developer announced plans to put the drillers on riverside in Tulsa long before Jenks came up for their plan and GDP has plans to put them where the proposed walmart may go. There are plenty of options other than Jerks.
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Originally posted by ougrad92
Are you people completely delusional? That stadium is a dump. It's worse that the old 89er's stadium in OKC.
If they move it to downtown, where are they going to put it? Across from the new Walmart? Over by the jail? Oh wait that's where the new arena is going. No one has bothered to actually put some thought into it. All I hear is, "Wah wah wah, it's OUR team."
If you don't want the team to move to Jenks then build them a stadium that's half-way decent. Quit living in your childhoods, like you've done with everything else in this town, and realize it's 2007.
Stadium isn't a dump, Davaz. It's clean and well maintained. It's just not new and made of brick. Try stopping in sometime.