Thought it might be nice to have a thread on the River District which didnt focus on the Drillers aspect.
This is an interesting potential development even without the ballpark controversy.
Here is a link to the Architects website that I believe they are using to create the layout. You can look at other Town Square type developments they have done or are on the books.
http://www.ddg-usa.com/Projects/TC_Perkins_Rowe/Project.html
Also found this for the people who designed the Southlake Town Square that the Jenks developers mentioned as one of the inspirations for the River District.
Its interesting to note that this plan was meant to evolve in phases. Which begs the question. Will the River District be done in phases as well? If so how long do they estimate that could take? 10 years 15 years? Or is this an all at once project with many tennants already lined up?
http://www.dmsas.com/Our_Portfolio/Project.aspx?listing=type&pId=28&itemId=8
The Southlake project required Tifs and city funding. Will the River District ask for any of that?
This Southlake Town Square looks like it has good architectural elements to its buildings. Better than the "half stuccoe or more" Branson Landing development has. That could be a good sign for the quality of the River District.
The developer mentioned that the River District will have some civic elements worked into it. The Southlake Town Square had a real Town Hall built with it. Again, it looks like its a quality structure.
(http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/9544/riverdistrict2rs2.jpg)
(http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/6641/riverdistrictkg4.jpg)
Could there be a Jenks Town Hall in this development?
Southlake Town square(http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/5483/riverdistrict3lf1.jpg)
Jenks River District model(http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/796/jenksriverdistrictij6.jpg)
Jenks River District Fountain. (http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/1472/riverdistrictfountainfe0.jpg)
maybe this link will work,
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18735121&BRD=2754&PAG=461&dept_id=574068&rfi=6 (//%22http://Jenks%20Journial%22)
I believe this is the most current site rendering.
So if the river development is voted down, is this article saying this won't happen? They will revoke their "confidence"?
Looks great btw.
Did my best to take that pic and enhance it. But just weren't enough pixels to get everything clear. However you can see some changes or differences in this "Option A" version. Yes it does appear they have listened to the comments in the other thread about connecting the ballpark to the rest of the development better. [:P] (was being facetious with that last comment sure we had nothing to do with it)
(http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/3858/riverdistrictsktchhv7.jpg)
there are still only three connections... same as before...
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Originally posted by brunoflipper
there are still only three connections... same as before...
and the primary parking at the current Drillers Stadium is in the infield of the race track, right? And that parking has, as far as I can see, one connection to the street.
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Originally posted by Oil Capital
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Originally posted by brunoflipper
there are still only three connections... same as before...
and the primary parking at the current Drillers Stadium is in the infield of the race track, right? And that parking has, as far as I can see, one connection to the street.
I'm pretty sure the primary drillers stadium parking is off 15th street. The big lot next to the ticket booth. The racetrack is just overflow as far as I know.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
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Originally posted by Oil Capital
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Originally posted by brunoflipper
there are still only three connections... same as before...
and the primary parking at the current Drillers Stadium is in the infield of the race track, right? And that parking has, as far as I can see, one connection to the street.
I'm pretty sure the primary drillers stadium parking is off 15th street. The big lot next to the ticket booth. The racetrack is just overflow as far as I know.
Leaving Drillers Stadium after a game is far more difficult than leaving a Jenks high school football game, and the high school gets a lot more people going to thier games than the Drillers do. And trying to leave the Drillers parking lot when the horse races are going on is just plain awful.
I meant the WALKABLE connection to the rest of the development looked improved. I am floored that the first thing someone thought of in reaction to my statement was cars. Good gawd. We just must see the world through completely different lenses.
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Originally posted by TheArtist
I meant the WALKABLE connection to the rest of the development looked improved. I am floored that the first thing someone thought of in reaction to my statement was cars. Good gawd. We just must see the world through completely different lenses.
Im not walking to Jenks, so I assume my car is coming with me.
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Originally posted by YoungTulsan
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Originally posted by TheArtist
I meant the WALKABLE connection to the rest of the development looked improved. I am floored that the first thing someone thought of in reaction to my statement was cars. Good gawd. We just must see the world through completely different lenses.
Im not walking to Jenks, so I assume my car is coming with me.
So if you drive to a baseball game you gonna drive over to the other part of the River district, or vice versa? Or would that extra block or two be too much of an inconvenient hassle for ya?
Might be interesting to put some parking close to the main entrance and run shuttles through the shopping area to the stadium. Then make the three outlets one way in before the game and one way out after the game. Like they do Lindsay street during OU football games.
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Originally posted by waterboy
Might be interesting to put some parking close to the main entrance and run shuttles through the shopping area to the stadium. Then make the three outlets one way in before the game and one way out after the game. Like they do Lindsay street during OU football games.
Had I not seen this I would have said it was science fiction...........
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Originally posted by swake
Leaving Drillers Stadium after a game is far more difficult than leaving a Jenks high school football game, and the high school gets a lot more people going to thier games than the Drillers do. And trying to leave the Drillers parking lot when the horse races are going on is just plain awful.
... and trying to leave the infield racetrack parking lot when the horse races are going on is even worser... [:P]
The game I went to this summer was on a weeknight, but since there was no racing that night, I parked on the infield of the racetrack.
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Originally posted by TheArtist
I meant the WALKABLE connection to the rest of the development looked improved. I am floored that the first thing someone thought of in reaction to my statement was cars. Good gawd. We just must see the world through completely different lenses.
more walkable? in ****ing jenks? where on that plan is the walkability "improved" to the ballpark? it is the same damn design as the first...
****ing hell you're right about different lenses... i can't fathom painting cherubs on my bathroom ceiling and calling it high art, so i must be a philistine... different lenses for sure...
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Originally posted by Rico
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Originally posted by waterboy
Might be interesting to put some parking close to the main entrance and run shuttles through the shopping area to the stadium. Then make the three outlets one way in before the game and one way out after the game. Like they do Lindsay street during OU football games.
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Originally posted by brunoflipper
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Originally posted by TheArtist
I meant the WALKABLE connection to the rest of the development looked improved. I am floored that the first thing someone thought of in reaction to my statement was cars. Good gawd. We just must see the world through completely different lenses.
more walkable? in ****ing jenks? where on that plan is the walkability "improved" to the ballpark? it is the same damn design as the first...
****ing hell you're right about different lenses... i can't fathom painting cherubs on my bathroom ceiling and calling it high art, so i must be a philistine... different lenses for sure...
In the first example we saw with the little "foam pieces" The baseball stadium is placed a bit further away with some of its parking between it and the rest of the development.
In the "Option A" rendering you can see the entrance to the stadium is moved right up to the small river part, the parking has been moved around to the back, and they have put some buildings along the street that connects it to the rest of the development. There are even some buildings placed along the street on the other side of the creek making that parking lot smaller.
Its a bit closer. The buildings and sidewalks along the street are a more pleasing walk than through a parking lot. Thus I would say its connected better in the second rendering and more walkable.
I go to alot of Drillers games and have no trouble with parking or leaving.....The parking for the most part is West of the ball park.....Lots of ways to get out of there...Most of the time I drive between the barns to 21st......If it moves to Jenks....I will not be attending any games......
I live a little over a mile from Driller's stadium. I don't have traffic problems. I can walk.
Option A has the stadium seats facing the setting sun. A gruesome prospect during Oklahoma summers because of the heat and the glare. It also would be facing away from the river which is supposedly the money view. Current stadium has seating facing the northeast. Makes one wonder just how serious they are about a Jenks location.
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Originally posted by waterboy
Option A has the stadium seats facing the setting sun. A gruesome prospect during Oklahoma summers because of the heat and the glare. It also would be facing away from the river which is supposedly the money view. Current stadium has seating facing the northeast. Makes one wonder just how serious they are about a Jenks location.
Can you fix that Artist?[8D]
I think you are looking at it backwards. I do believe the big purple part is the stands with home plate in the SW corner (prevailing wind direction) and the third base line is running pretty much N/S. That makes the stands facing the river with their back to the setting sun.
Add a parking ramp and the illusion of an urban area that is "walkable" might be complete. With that much money on the table, they could make something REALLY neat.
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Originally posted by Vision 2025
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Originally posted by waterboy
Option A has the stadium seats facing the setting sun. A gruesome prospect during Oklahoma summers because of the heat and the glare. It also would be facing away from the river which is supposedly the money view. Current stadium has seating facing the northeast. Makes one wonder just how serious they are about a Jenks location.
Can you fix that Artist?[8D]
I think you are looking at it backwards. I do believe the big purple part is the stands with home plate in the SW corner (prevailing wind direction) and the third base line is running pretty much N/S. That makes the stands facing the river with their back to the setting sun.
Wouldn't be the first time. I'm left handed too.
Yes, I see that now. I mistook the parking near the river as stands. Carry on.[;)]
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
Add a parking ramp and the illusion of an urban area that is "walkable" might be complete. With that much money on the table, they could make something REALLY neat.
You've forgotten that parking garages are invisible to suburbanites. How else do we explain the constant protests that downtown has no parking?
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Originally posted by brunoflipper
there are still only three connections... same as before...
Looking at the site plan in the print edition of the Jenks Journal (it is big enough to read, kind of) the strip of land between the two lakes has a note that reads "preserved for access and future development" and from GoogleEarth this corridor lines up with 106th Street which is I understand already slated for a signalized intersection at Elm (Peoria) and perhaps even more importantly, these improvements are funded (via a Street Bonds issue) and are I understand are, scheduled to be complete in 20-24 months time.
So I do believe they are looking towards more access.... just have to get across the creek.
Another plan shows 106th dead ending into the dam between the two lakes. It looks like all the northern exits are just onto aquarium drive.
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Originally posted by waterboy
Option A has the stadium seats facing the setting sun. A gruesome prospect during Oklahoma summers because of the heat and the glare. It also would be facing away from the river which is supposedly the money view. Current stadium has seating facing the northeast. Makes one wonder just how serious they are about a Jenks location.
Can you fix that Artist?[8D]
Bet you would be amazed at what I can do with a little paint. [8D]