Wow, can't believe it Karl "MC" Rove quits finally and not a single comment from the usual suspects.
The little fat quiter!
I guess he will go write a book of lies portraying a picture of optimism from all the damage he's wrought.
a usual suspect
I'm surprised he didn't get the boot after the 2006 elections.
He dispensed a lot of ill-considered optimism to Republicans beforehand. He kept insisting he had "the real math" that said the GOP would retain the House and Senate.
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Originally posted by rwarn17588
I'm surprised he didn't get the boot after the 2006 elections.
He dispensed a lot of ill-considered optimism to Republicans beforehand. He kept insisting he had "the real math" that said the GOP would retain the House and Senate.
Hard to say how much of that he believed and how much was talk before the big game. The political winds are blowing the other way (not necessarily democrat, but certainly against fundamentalist republicans) and so he made a wise decision to exit while he still has some power. Its always better to leave on your terms than to be forced out, or worse - made irrelevant.
Does anyone honestly believe he is done? My take is he is merely getting ready to take on another presidential campaign. Interesting that his resignation takes effect just days of Thompson's decision date.
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Originally posted by guido911
Does anyone honestly believe he is done? My take is he is merely getting ready to take on another presidential campaign. Interesting that his resignation takes effect just days of Thompson's decision date.
Hmmmm. Interesting.
I think he is done -- at least for a while.
Being on a president's staff for that long tends to wear you out. I think he's ready for a break.
I'm not sure he's going to sign on with any presidential campaign for 2008. He's under an ethical cloud with several ongoing investigations, and no one with any sense (please note caveat) wants a consultant who could get indicted in the middle of a campaign. I'm not saying he WILL be indicted, but it'd be foolish for a presidential hopeful to take that chance with someone who's that radioactive and who could mess everything up.
And Rove may sit this one out because the current crop of GOP candidates is pretty underwhelming. The GOP has a tough road to hoe in 2008 because the Iraq War, immigration and a few other issues are going badly. He got whupped pretty badly in 2006; he wouldn't want that to happen again in 2008.
I don't think anyone particularly cares that he quit. And resigning at this point is typical, there's nothing unusual about it. It's the way things work, it's not smart or stupid or anything. It just is. It doesn't change anything.
The only people even paying attention this administration, are the ones that think the occassional new DOW high is somehow indicative of a good president, while kindly ignoring all evidence to the contrary.
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Originally posted by MichaelC
I don't think anyone particularly cares that he quit. And resigning at this point is typical, there's nothing unusual about it. It's the way things work, it's not smart or stupid or anything. It just is. It doesn't change anything.
The only people even paying attention this administration, are the ones that think the occassional new DOW high is somehow indicative of a good president, while kindly ignoring all evidence to the contrary.
Yeah...this economy just stinks to high heaven...[}:)]
If it weren't for tanking sub-prime lending (which the Fed has very little control over), there would be nothing for you to complain about...well, nothing for a reasonable person to complain about I should say. But if you really believe that the economy is in such poooor shape, please, feel free to let us all know why.
On a related note I found this to be mildly amusing. Some "journalist" (Bill Plante) from CBS actually yelled out at a press conference today, "If he's so smart, how come you lost Congress?" Wow...That sounds like a well balanced statement from a responsible journalist type now doesn't it?
Ever wonder why the faked Rather news stories weren't a surprise to anyone actually paying attention?
I'm not complaining, the actions or inaction of a president really don't bother me personally. Not on an economic level anyway. The economy does kind of stink. There are tons of reasons for it, including the sub-prime deal. But, I can make money out of stinky market. I was very well positioned for this last tanking episode, and plan on cashing in on it. I know people are hurting, but I ain't one of them.
All things being equal, with any sense of normalcy, the economy should occasionally hit records. New records or new highs are not necessarily indicative of how good or bad the economy is. Neither is a 1000 point DJIA free-fall.
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Originally posted by rwarn17588
I think he is done -- at least for a while.
Being on a president's staff for that long tends to wear you out. I think he's ready for a break.
Wow, how many presidential staffs have you been a part of?
I don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. Look at history.
A whole slew of Bill Clinton's staff left during the second term.
Ditto for Reagan.
Ditto for Bush II.
Most of them, once they've been out of office for a while, cite burnout and fatigue. It's a high-pressure job.
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But, I can make money out of stinky market.
At least we can agree on one thing!
Hey, and we can agree that a president's effect on the economy is usually over rated. I guess they have some potential to really destroy a market, as well as a little leeway in propping one up... but in the long haul the president is not the deciding factor (nor, for the love of god, should he be!).
Bush's brain made irrelevant....
duh!
the usual suspect
Rats. Sinking ships.
He's probably just making sure he has adequate time to start brokering pardons for cash.
The turd is no longer blossoming.
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Originally posted by aoxamaxoa
The turd is no longer blossoming.
How many rest rings did it have.......
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Originally posted by aoxamaxoa
The turd is no longer blossoming.
And is so often the case when someone with that kind of power leaves government, it would not shock me if he had a slew of big-time job offers to sift through.
He became obsolete.
It's that simple.
Lame ducks.
And weepy pukes...
http://allspinzone.com/wp/2007/08/14/the-weepy-karl-rove/
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Originally posted by aoxamaxoa
He became obsolete.
It's that simple.
Lame ducks.
And weepy pukes...
http://allspinzone.com/wp/2007/08/14/the-weepy-karl-rove/
The thing with Rove, he'll make a comeback-one way or another....
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All Spin Zone started life in late 2003 . . .when founder Richard Blair got tired of arguing progressive politics with conservative morons on the message boards
Please find a better source. That entire blog is dedicated to showing why conservatives are morons and how bush is a big "Duh." Its depressing that people even consider that a reference.
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
Hey, and we can agree that a president's effect on the economy is usually over rated.
Overrated? Yes. I'm not letting him off the hook entirely.
The markets can be, under certain circumstances, one of many indicators of the economy. Markets are not "the economy." If a stock guy is telling you "the economy is great," odds are he's being less than truthful, whether he knows it or not.
I wish Rove would have stuck it through to the bitter end so that he could wallow in the disaster completely every day he went to work. As it is, he gets let off the hook somewhat. I despise that dude.
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
I wish Rove would have stuck it through to the bitter end so that he could wallow in the disaster completely every day he went to work. As it is, he gets let off the hook somewhat. I despise that dude.
NO! Really...I could have never guessed! So what's your encore? You gonna tell us water is wet?
Water is what water is, only when someone encounters water they get wet. So no, water is not wet. [:D]
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
I wish Rove would have stuck it through to the bitter end so that he could wallow in the disaster completely every day he went to work. As it is, he gets let off the hook somewhat. I despise that dude.
Sooner or later, even Karl Rove is gonna have to account for his actions, if any. May be interesting watching him sit before a Congressional Panel or even a Grand Jury trying to explain himself.
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May be interesting watching him sit before a Congressional Panel or even a Grand Jury trying to explain himself.
For what? Routinely pwning Democrats for the last decade?
Would not you feel sorry for someone who had found out that their father was really their grandfather who stepped in to take the place of his real father after finding out the real father was gay? Oh, and mom killed herself.
Probably out of fear for what she had wrought.
I felt a tinge of sorrow for Karl when I heard this the other day. Then I caught myself.
CAN YOU IMAGINE HIS PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFILE? He's been running the country and the republican screw machine for 11 years.
ROVE'S NEW JOB!!! http://pabloonpolitics.com/rovesjob.htm
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The Ax man Sayeth
I hate Bush. I hate Rover.
Noted. How many different ways do you need to say it? You hate them, the ivy school graduates that run our country (world) are stupid failures, they will be nothings soon, and you hate them.
Check.
Time to break out the spray again. It's been a long time since I've had to use this...
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Originally posted by aoxamaxoa
Would not you feel sorry for someone who had found out that their father was really their grandfather who stepped in to take the place of his real father after finding out the real father was gay? Oh, and mom killed herself.
Probably out of fear for what she had wrought.
I felt a tinge of sorrow for Karl when I heard this the other day. Then I caught myself.
CAN YOU IMAGINE HIS PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFILE? He's been running the country and the republican screw machine for 11 years.
ROVE'S NEW JOB!!! http://pabloonpolitics.com/rovesjob.htm
Nah, I'd just say what people have been telling me for years: "Tough sh!t. Get over it."
You guys love me....[:D]
VIDEO: Bill Moyers | Farewell to Karl Rove
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/081807B.shtml
The Bill Moyers Journal says good-bye to Karl Rove, who "figured out a long time ago that the way to take an intellectually incurious draft-averse naughty playboy in a flight jacket with chewing tobacco in his back pocket and make him governor of Texas, was to sell him as God's anointed in a state where preachers and televangelists outnumber even oil derricks and jack rabbits."
This is beautiful; Moyers' voice is such an important one...
Give it a rest, aox.
(Never trust the judgment of a person who takes a username after a Grateful Dead album. There are at least 200 bands out there that are far better.)
I never considered Karl Rove to be as smart or as cunning as far too many people gave him credit for. After all, he got his butt handed to him during the 2006 elections despite his claims that he had "the real math" that showed the GOP would hold the House and Senate.
I will ignore your personal attack based on your lack of zeitgeist!
"Why I No Longer Get Excited When Bush Cronies Quit"
http://www.madkane.com/madness/2007/08/23/why-i-no-longer-get-excited-when-bush-cronies-quit/
"Sure, they eventually quit. But they stubbornly refuse to stay quit. "
The axman....a friend of the devil!
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/65627
funny
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Originally posted by aoxamaxoa
Would not you feel sorry for someone who had found out that their father was really their grandfather who stepped in to take the place of his real father after finding out the real father was gay? Oh, and mom killed herself.
No, I would feel sorry for someone who uses that as some cheap shot.