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Talk About Tulsa => Other Tulsa Discussion => Topic started by: shadows on July 26, 2007, 09:58:13 PM

Title: Reserve Officers enforce curfew?
Post by: shadows on July 26, 2007, 09:58:13 PM
If we have some 40 trained reserved police officers why should they not be used to enforce the curfew on underage children?

If several police cars are parked in the suburbs some 128 hours of the 168 hours each week why are they not put to use by the reserve officers to enforce the curfew?  
Title: Reserve Officers enforce curfew?
Post by: Wilbur on July 26, 2007, 10:36:13 PM
Most reputable law enforcement agencies don't allow their reserve officers to work unless they are under the direct supervision of a full time law enforcement officer.  Tulsa is one of those reputable agencies.  The only current activities reserve officers are allowed to handle on their own are parking and traffic hazard type calls.

And some of the reserve officers are allowed to take police cars home.  Don't ask me why.  None of the cars are anything to be proud of.
Title: Reserve Officers enforce curfew?
Post by: Breadburner on July 26, 2007, 10:39:16 PM
Just what officers around town need to be doing a job the parents should be handling.....
Title: Reserve Officers enforce curfew?
Post by: Porky on July 27, 2007, 05:16:41 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Wilbur

Most reputable law enforcement agencies don't allow their reserve officers to work unless they are under the direct supervision of a full time law enforcement officer.  Tulsa is one of those reputable agencies.  The only current activities reserve officers are allowed to handle on their own are parking and traffic hazard type calls.

And some of the reserve officers are allowed to take police cars home.  Don't ask me why.  None of the cars are anything to be proud of.



I think Tulsa has one of the best Reserve Police  programs in the nation. Truly a model that other cities should follow.

Our new part time Chief of Police was sure shocked when he found out that our Reserve Police carried guns. lol
Title: Reserve Officers enforce curfew?
Post by: shadows on July 28, 2007, 08:21:35 AM
Porky quoted:  Our new part time Chief of Police was sure shocked when he found out that our Reserve Police carried guns.
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Shadows goofed again.  He was of the opinion that the reserves were trained in the training center Garren fought to established.   Course there could be a possibility that the sworn officers are protecting their own turf.

It was my assumption that city police cars sitting in drives in suburb cities had little effect on reducing crime in Tulsa.   Of course the suburb parents of the children that are gathering in the parking lots in Tulsa believe that someone is enforcing the curfew when they have so many cars they can sit idle down the block from them.  No ordinance is unenforceable.   A police car intermixing among those gathering in the parking lots has a great deterrent on teenagers after curfew.  

Robert Peal, centuries ago in London, with his Bobbies carrying nightsticks, brought crime under control (no guns)  I can see where it would be more impressive instead of using nightsticks to direct parking and traffic by the reserves, where waving traffic on using the automatics would get the motorist attention.   Then too when pointing out where one wants a motorist to park, just point it out with a gun.

I am sure the acting police chief was surprised,

The solution would be to change the rules of enforcement where the reserves would be paid hourly as extra officers to monitor the increasing violation of the ordinance.

The mayor has some good points on policing Tulsa. [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]