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Title: My Thoughts to the 1957 Tulsarama Planners
Post by: Steve on June 13, 2007, 03:56:07 PM
My thoughts to the 1957 Tulsarama planners and participants, and the members of Golden Jubilee Inc. that buried the 1957 Plymouth and artifacts in downtown Tulsa:

Thank you so much for the valuable national publicity you gave Tulsa in 1957, and thank you again for the valuable national publicity and world-wide attention you have given Tulsa in 2007!

Thank you for your wishes and desires for Tulsa's future.  Fifty years have passed, and although what we uncover today is not as pristine as what you left us in 1957, your dreams and hopes for Tulsa live on.  The car still survives today, although not in the same condition, but your good intentions and hopes for Tulsa's and Oklahoma's future will live on for generations.  I hope the Tulsa of 2007 and beyond lives up to your expectations.

And thank you for 50 years of anticipation and excitement leading up to this week's events.  I am sure we all wish the outcome would have been better, but it sure was fun speculating about and anticipating this day!

Stephen Edlich
Tulsa Resident since Nov. 1957
Title: My Thoughts to the 1957 Tulsarama Planners
Post by: rwarn17588 on June 13, 2007, 04:17:40 PM
Thank you, Steve, for putting all of this in perspective.
Title: My Thoughts to the 1957 Tulsarama Planners
Post by: tulsa1603 on June 13, 2007, 04:24:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Steve

My thoughts to the 1957 Tulsarama planners and participants, and the members of Golden Jubilee Inc. that buried the 1957 Plymouth and artifacts in downtown Tulsa:

Thank you so much for the valuable national publicity you gave Tulsa in 1957, and thank you again for the valuable national publicity and world-wide attention you have given Tulsa in 2007!

Thank you for your wishes and desires for Tulsa's future.  Fifty years have passed, and although what we uncover today is not as pristine as what you left us in 1957, your dreams and hopes for Tulsa live on.  The car still survives today, although not in the same condition, but your good intentions and hopes for Tulsa's and Oklahoma's future will live on for generations.  I hope the Tulsa of 2007 and beyond lives up to your expectations.

And thank you for 50 years of anticipation and excitement leading up to this week's events.  I am sure we all wish the outcome would have been better, but is sure was fun speculating and anticipating this day!

Stephen Edlich
Tulsa Resident since Nov. 1957




I think thanks are also in order for the 2007 event planners.  No one knew the condition of the car, but they took the intitiative to get it opened up on time and helped bring a little national publicity to our city.  And of course, they are already getting criticized for today's events:  http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0607/431149.html (//%22http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0607/431149.html%22)

Really chaps my hide since these people are all doing this for the community, not personal gain.  How can anyone criticize them?
Title: My Thoughts to the 1957 Tulsarama Planners
Post by: cannon_fodder on June 13, 2007, 04:24:59 PM
If you must have that you can take it to politics. Even if the city paid for the car originally, it will make up in publicity and revenue what it spent.

Definitely a good idea then, and it would be today.  But today, we would have to top ourselves.
Title: My Thoughts to the 1957 Tulsarama Planners
Post by: RecycleMichael on June 13, 2007, 04:36:00 PM
Let's bury another car this weekend.
Title: My Thoughts to the 1957 Tulsarama Planners
Post by: Conan71 on June 13, 2007, 04:52:58 PM
Sheesh, some real whiners in that story.  I'm still going to the unveiling.  There's a whole lot of speculation.  Granted, there's likely to be some condensation damage, but it may turn out to be nothing.  I still think it will be a gas (pardon the pun) to be a part of this event.
Title: My Thoughts to the 1957 Tulsarama Planners
Post by: Steve on June 13, 2007, 04:53:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by tulsa1603

quote:
Originally posted by Steve

My thoughts to the 1957 Tulsarama planners and participants, and the members of Golden Jubilee Inc. that buried the 1957 Plymouth and artifacts in downtown Tulsa:

Thank you so much for the valuable national publicity you gave Tulsa in 1957, and thank you again for the valuable national publicity and world-wide attention you have given Tulsa in 2007!

Thank you for your wishes and desires for Tulsa's future.  Fifty years have passed, and although what we uncover today is not as pristine as what you left us in 1957, your dreams and hopes for Tulsa live on.  The car still survives today, although not in the same condition, but your good intentions and hopes for Tulsa's and Oklahoma's future will live on for generations.  I hope the Tulsa of 2007 and beyond lives up to your expectations.

And thank you for 50 years of anticipation and excitement leading up to this week's events.  I am sure we all wish the outcome would have been better, but is sure was fun speculating and anticipating this day!

Stephen Edlich
Tulsa Resident since Nov. 1957




I think thanks are also in order for the 2007 event planners.  No one knew the condition of the car, but they took the intitiative to get it opened up on time and helped bring a little national publicity to our city.  And of course, they are already getting criticized for today's events:  http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0607/431149.html (//%22http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0607/431149.html%22)

Really chaps my hide since these people are all doing this for the community, not personal gain.  How can anyone criticize them?




You are so right tulsa1603, to think that people would brush this event off just because of today's findings is pathetic.  There is still a 1957 automobile there to be revealed, whatever its condition, and other time capsule contents and contest microfilm.  I know the car is in sad shape, but I am still excited about what is yet to be revealed.

And you are correct too, kudos also go to Sharon King-Davis and the Tulsa Historical Society for their time and efforts in unearthing the car and the associated events this week.
Title: My Thoughts to the 1957 Tulsarama Planners
Post by: Noodlez on June 13, 2007, 04:55:37 PM
I will gladly take that guys ticket that doesn't want to attended cause he "knows" what it looks like now.
Title: My Thoughts to the 1957 Tulsarama Planners
Post by: Rowdy on June 13, 2007, 09:36:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Granted, there's likely to be some condensation damage...


I think this wins most optimistic quote of the month.
Title: My Thoughts to the 1957 Tulsarama Planners
Post by: jasman on June 14, 2007, 08:39:39 AM
I've got to agree that whatever the end product, it has created a positive buzz.  Driving back on the Turner Turnpike I passed a couple of classic cars with a "Tulsa or Bust" sign in the back window.  Both of these cars had California plates.  A few minutes later, I heard on NPR one part of a weeklong series tracing two of their reporters'   road trip from LA down Route 66 for the unveiling.
Title: My Thoughts to the 1957 Tulsarama Planners
Post by: Conan71 on June 14, 2007, 10:30:21 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Rowdy

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Granted, there's likely to be some condensation damage...


I think this wins most optimistic quote of the month.



What do I win?  What do I win?  Oh, goodie goodie, I finally won something! [;)]
Title: My Thoughts to the 1957 Tulsarama Planners
Post by: AMP on June 15, 2007, 12:40:08 AM
We spotted a very nice Plymouth Belvedere around the 1957 age traveling south bound on Highway 75 this side of Bartlesville this morning around 9am.  Appeared as if it just rolled off the showroom floor.  Thing was a great Flash Back for me to see !    

My step-brother owned a car very similar to that one, I believe it had a push button gear selector on the left side of the dash.  I will always remember the tall fins on the back, this was around 1963.  Great car tons of power and lots of leg room.  Believe his was Red and White.

We took drives in it to Tenkiller lake a few dozen times that summer.  Seems like it cost around $5.00 to fill er up then.
Title: My Thoughts to the 1957 Tulsarama Planners
Post by: T-Town Now on June 15, 2007, 07:06:23 AM
I think the buried car and time capsule is a wonderful and thoughtful gift from Tulsans in 1957. They didn't have to do it, but they wanted to give future generations a glimpse of what life was like for them.

It doesn't matter if the car is rusty. It's the thought that counts, and no one else has ever done anything like this.

It's an honor to be able to see it happen, and thanks to all those people back in 1957 who went to so much trouble to do this for us.
Title: My Thoughts to the 1957 Tulsarama Planners
Post by: sauerkraut on June 15, 2007, 09:15:34 AM
quote:
Originally posted by T-Town Now

I think the buried car and time capsule is a wonderful and thoughtful gift from Tulsans in 1957. They didn't have to do it, but they wanted to give future generations a glimpse of what life was like for them.

It doesn't matter if the car is rusty. It's the thought that counts, and no one else has ever done anything like this.

It's an honor to be able to see it happen, and thanks to all those people back in 1957 who went to so much trouble to do this for us.

I agree, However, it really would of been something had that vault not leaked, we'd of had a brand new 1957 Plymouth showroom new in 2007. If that plastic held air tight and no water got inside the car still may be good. What scared me is the photos from 1957 that showed the plastic wraped car in the vault, the plastic sheet was smooth and tight before they sealed the vault. The 2007 pictures showed the plastic wrap wrinkled, almost as if water sloshed around in the vault, They say the bottom of the vault is like a pool and that it still looks good, so if the whole car was at one time under water I don't see how that much water could of leaked out, plus the new rains would of increased the water level inside the vault faster than it leaked out, so I was hoping that the 2' of water in the vault was all there is. But I don't understand how that wrapping got so wrinkled. Thanx for the gift all you folks of 1957! BTW they say there is no other known records of other buried cars anyplace in the USA aside from the 1998 car they buried in Tulsa. I think they may may now want to check on that one, it's a $300,000 car. Aluminum has been known to crack and get crossion. Time capsules are hard to keep dry.
Title: My Thoughts to the 1957 Tulsarama Planners
Post by: Conan71 on June 15, 2007, 09:49:49 AM
quote:
Originally posted by AMP

We spotted a very nice Plymouth Belvedere around the 1957 age traveling south bound on Highway 75 this side of Bartlesville this morning around 9am.  Appeared as if it just rolled off the showroom floor.  Thing was a great Flash Back for me to see !    

My step-brother owned a car very similar to that one, I believe it had a push button gear selector on the left side of the dash.  I will always remember the tall fins on the back, this was around 1963.  Great car tons of power and lots of leg room.  Believe his was Red and White.

We took drives in it to Tenkiller lake a few dozen times that summer.  Seems like it cost around $5.00 to fill er up then.



Expect to see quite a few more around town this weekend.  I took a photo of my friend with a fellow who came all the way from Norway yesterday.  The Norwegian fellow was carrying a very nice poster of his '57 Belvedere.  He said he's owned it since 1971.  No, he didn't ship his over for the event.
Title: My Thoughts to the 1957 Tulsarama Planners
Post by: Steve on June 15, 2007, 10:32:10 AM
quote:
Originally posted by AMP

My step-brother owned a car very similar to that one, I believe it had a push button gear selector on the left side of the dash.  I will always remember the tall fins on the back, this was around 1963.  



My family had a 1963 or 1964 Plymouth Valiant that also had the push-button gear shift.  I think all Chrysler auto-trans cars used the push-button selectors for about 8 years or more.  I am looking at a snapshot of that car right now, and in the background I can see our neighbor's tri-tone green 1959 Dodge Royal, huge tail fins, gaudy chrome and all.  Bad taste aside, they sure don't make 'em like that anymore.
Title: My Thoughts to the 1957 Tulsarama Planners
Post by: sauerkraut on June 16, 2007, 01:35:00 PM
Those late 1950's Plymouths are rather rare. if you see one that's showroom new it's a gem...
Title: My Thoughts to the 1957 Tulsarama Planners
Post by: swake on June 16, 2007, 08:10:10 PM
Well, we can all gather again for the next Plymouth to be dug up in 2048, just 41 years to go.
Title: My Thoughts to the 1957 Tulsarama Planners
Post by: sauerkraut on June 18, 2007, 02:00:58 PM
The Tulsa planners of 1957 really worked hard and wanted so bad to leave us a gift of their time. They would really be hurt to know that the gift they left us was ruined. I'd like to see Tulsa bury a car every 50 years. The gift they left us can't be replaced.
Title: My Thoughts to the 1957 Tulsarama Planners
Post by: sauerkraut on June 18, 2007, 02:03:09 PM
quote:
Originally posted by swake

Well, we can all gather again for the next Plymouth to be dug up in 2048, just 41 years to go.

Speak for yerself. I have a feeling that I'll be in my own vault in 2057, (I'll be 102 years old if I'm still up and kicking).